Melee combat rework

Sarah_U. · Post by **Sarah_U.** » 26 Apr 2017, 16:20

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary):
Rework melee combat to attack on tiles as well as directly on mobs during combat.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole):
Melee will grow much more reliable.
Combat will grow smoother and the interaction friendlier.
Certain players and roles will be more viable (E.g. Predator in CQC).
It will give a new dynamic to close quarter combat.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc):
When clicking a tile with a melee weapon, you swipe the tile(s) depending of your weapon.

(Optional, possibly hard to implement) A swipe has a chance to be blocked and if so, will not harm ennemies in the next spaces designated by the weapon.

Possibly, make attacks overhead, swipes, direct, etc. Depending of the person's intent.
E.G: Help intent does nothing. Tackle does a blunt attack if possible. Grab does an overhead. Harm does a swipe.

Dev's discretion on the rest, but I really think this would be a great change and even applied to xenos it could be great (Ravager rampaging through a hall, etc.)

EDIT: Small idea: Clicking on a mob increase the chance to hit it. Clicking the tile gives a chance to be blocked or miss. (I forgot to write it down).

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it):
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TehSpoderman · Post by **TehSpoderman** » 26 Apr 2017, 19:21

please do this so i can finally be robust as a xennu +1

David Attenbruv · Post by **David Attenbruv** » 26 Apr 2017, 19:24

This feels like the suggestion is more to work on Predators Combat Systems rather than the server in a general sense. Am I mistaken by that or?... Apologies if I come off patronising with the question.

Dirty Old Harry · Post by **Dirty Old Harry** » 26 Apr 2017, 19:27

David Attenbruv wrote:This feels like the suggestion is more to work on Predators Combat Systems rather than the server in a general sense. Am I mistaken by that or?... Apologies if I come off patronising with the question.

Think grizzled survivor with a fire axe fighting off a runner.

Simo94 · Post by **Simo94** » 26 Apr 2017, 19:30

kaaaa meeeeee
haaaa meeeeee
HAAAAAAAAA+++++++++++++++++++++++1111111111111111

David Attenbruv · Post by **David Attenbruv** » 26 Apr 2017, 19:33

Oh then in that case I +1 this!

Sarah_U. · Post by **Sarah_U.** » 26 Apr 2017, 19:35

Even if it was pred-oriented. It would still affect xenos and marines, so it's a global update in that sence. It is infact mostly oriented to make predators more interesting to play in 1 VS. Many scenarios (Or so my base intention), but I still made it so all factions benefit and so does the server.

Kavrick · Post by **Kavrick** » 27 Apr 2017, 06:33

+1 this is a great idea, melee is way too unreliable

Halinder · Post by **Halinder** » 27 Apr 2017, 06:45

How would this effect multiple mobs on the same tile?

Post by **Steelpoint** » 27 Apr 2017, 06:49

We did something very similar over on /tg/station a while ago.

People did protest but I think the chief reason why it got through is it sort of helped higher ping people who have a harder time hitting mob sprites, and it somewhat levels the playing field in melee combat.

Sarah_U. · Post by **Sarah_U.** » 27 Apr 2017, 06:57

Didn't know TG had it, proves it can function though.

Anyway, for Halinder: It'd probably pick first or lower the hit-chance, not sure on that one. Just ideas.

TheMusician321 · Post by **TheMusician321** » 27 Apr 2017, 07:27

+1, as someone with 0.2-0.3s ping this would help immensely, maybe I can finally live my dreams as dual machete throwing knife man.

Crab_Spider · Post by **Crab_Spider** » 27 Apr 2017, 07:44

I would definitely hate this, as both a xeno AND Marine.

Dirty Old Harry · Post by **Dirty Old Harry** » 27 Apr 2017, 08:51

Crab_Spider wrote:I would definitely hate this, as both a xeno AND Marine.

How so?

Also +1.

Caryl · Post by **Caryl** » 27 Apr 2017, 09:18

+1, I imagine a blind guy swiping blindly now... PFFFTTTT!

adamkad2 · Post by **adamkad2** » 27 Apr 2017, 10:31

Assuming direct attack had some chance to miss too, it would be really decent. Mayby make modes, offense, defense and balanced. Offense raises hit chance but makes it much easier to hit you, defense makes it harder to hit but helps you defend yourself and balanced is medium, make riot shields more viable than 25% of the time or so

ShortTemperedLeprechaun · Post by **ShortTemperedLeprechaun** » 27 Apr 2017, 11:17

I support this personally. Maybe I'm jut really unrobust, but I have trouble hitting like....anything, even when I'm almost certain I'm clicking the mob. Plus one

Kerek · Post by **Kerek** » 27 Apr 2017, 11:40

I don't know, I feel this would make melee a little too easy. I personally kinda like the derpy system we have.

Post by **forwardslashN** » 27 Apr 2017, 13:03

This isn't feasible right now. When it becomes feasible, you'll likely see a whole new melee system. Denied for now.

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