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Jadedshadow - Moderator Application

Post by jadedshadow » 25 Jul 2017, 23:29

Byond ID:Jadedshadow

Colonial Marines Character:Cervan Dante

Age:20

Gender:M

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On average, how many hours are you available per week to moderate? around 42

Do you have any previous experience in being staff (not just SS13)?

Did you play any of the previous Colonial Marine servers? Nostromo does that count?

What are the 3 biggest servers you play on besides CM?Paradise hippie

Provide links to any previous Colonial Marines applications that you've made: viewtopic.php?f=143&t=10271

Are you currently a staff member elsewhere (not just SS13)? If so, where? no

Have you ever been banned for more than 24 hours on Colonial Marines?no

Have you ever been banned for more than 24 hours on ANY server? If so, which server, when, and what for?no

Are you familiar with the chat program Slack (its use is required)?never use it before

Common Staff Situations:
Write a description of what you would do in each of the following situations. Do not write on the same line as the situation - use the space below it or make space as needed. Failure to do this proves your inability to follow instructions and your application will be automatically denied.

1. A player randomly shoots someone at round start and MPs have detained him.
I'll leave it to the MP, but if it looks like intentional I'll check the players notes and give out a warning, is this is a continues thing I'll give out a ban base on how bad it is.

2. The ship has a breach to space and a bunch of players have died or are dying as a result.
I'll check if natural like maybe the drop ship bugged out or something then I'll leave it, If not I'll check the log and try to figure out whom did it and check their notes then PM, and Issue a warning about how this against the rules, or I'll give a ban based on the player history.

3. You see a player walking around the ship naked and clearly lost.
I'll PM them asking if they need some help and get a mentor the help them, if none are around I'll help them myself

4. A player is being very rude to you in Adminhelps and requesting to speak to an Admin+ staff member.
I'll ask if the other admins is willing to take him if not, I'll try to resolve the issue with the person, but if they keep on being rude I'll give a warning and noted it down, but if is really bad I'll give a ban based on the history.

5. You notice a player with a name that doesn't fit our naming rules. The player is arguing that: They've used the name for several years, no one has told them to change it before, and that they didn't know it was a rule.
I'll ask the player to change the name next round and to read the rule and I'll noted this down, if they don't change their name next round I'll give a warning/noted it down, and should this continue I'll give a short ban

6. You see a Maintenance Tech running around in armor and carrying a rifle. The security level is green with no threat present.
I'll see if this is a IC thing happening, if not I'll PM them asking the gear to be returned and ask them to follow protocols for RP.

7. You see a Squad Medic performing surgery on the planet. He claims it was because there were no doctors in the FOB.
I'll PM the medic telling them to stop for what they are doing is power gaming, and bring side person back to the ship for proper treatment then I'll noted this down.

8. The round is stagnating. There are 30 marines and 4 aliens. The marines won't leave the ship, and the aliens won't attack. What would you do, to "encourage" the sides to engage each other?
I'll give the marines a scan and a message from command tell them that the alien threat is almost eliminated and all marines should find the rest of the aliens.

9. The round ends, a MARINE starts shooting a hostile IRON BEAR and the IRON BEAR Adminhelps complaining he was killed after the round ended.
I'll tell the player that in the end round is fine for the marine to still fight with hostiles, like aliens, UPP and only hostiles not other marines.

10. A marine is running around disarming, punching and stealing gear at round start.
I'll leave this to the MPs, but if is escalate I'll check the player's history and give a warning or a bad based on the situation.

11. A marine has killed another marine. When you ask him why, he said it was because the other marine had punched him.
I'll tell the player to use proper RP is fine for you to punch back but no to shoot him, then I'll give a warning and note it down.

12. An issue arises that requires Admin+ abilities.
I'll check if there's other admin's online and pass it to them, if not I'll try contacting them with the information them about the issue, if there is no admins available I'll make a record the problem and inform the next available admin.

13. There are minor racist comments going on IC. 9 of the 10 people are laughing and RPing but one player gets offended and Adminhelps about it.
I'll tell them that light racism like jokes is allowed, If the player still feels offended, I'll tell the other to please stop as is making someone else offended.

14. A marine opens fire at round start in briefing killing multiple marines and instantly logs off.
I'll heal any hurt or dead marines then check the notes of the player, if there are none I would give ban and note the event, if is this a recurring thing I would ban them for 7 days and file for perma.


15. You see a player playing a xeno larva/chestburster run towards the frontlines and die.
I'll PM the player and ask why they did it, then tell them to stop and act more like a xeno, should this continue I'll check the notes of the player then give a warning or a job ban if is bad.

16. You see a xeno memeing, saying AYYLMAO, REEEEEE etc in hivemind chat.
I'll ask the player to stop as is bad RP.

17. A xeno player calls the shuttle a "dropship". A different xeno player complains to you that it's metagaming/failRP to call it a "dropship".
I'll PM the player and suggest that they call it the metal bird from now on.

18. A Command staff player at briefing near round-start mentions there are aliens on the planet.
I'll check the player notes and give a warning, that the marines do not know anything on the planet, If they did have previous notes about this I would give a ban or a command job ban based on player history.

19. A Marine kills another Marine on the EVAC Pod to take the last spot and claims it was RP as he was saving himself.
I'll ask the dead marine if it event was RP is so I'll leave it, if not I'll PM the player warn him about the rule and note the event.

20. You see a fellow staff member give wrong information in an Adminhelp or incorrectly enforcing a rule.
I'll will try to correct them about issue.

20a. You see a fellow staff member abusing his powers in-game.
I'll try to stop abuse, by talking to said staff member about the issue, but if it persists I'll then inform a head staff about it.

21. You see a player talking in OOC chat about what he did with your mom last night.
I'll usually leave it because OOC chat gets pretty wild, if is really bad I'll give a warning.

Any additional information you'd like to add?
Sorry if the app is a bit short.

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Re: Jadedshadow - Moderator Application

Post by slc97 » 25 Jul 2017, 23:37

Player contacted me before making this application. English is not their first language so that may have an effect on the application, but this is going to need a lot more detail before it is an acceptable application. What I'm mainly looking for in these is your investigative processes and your understanding of the rules.

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Re: Jadedshadow - Moderator Application

Post by Kavrick » 25 Jul 2017, 23:59

It's alright, nothing too outstanding, as slc said it could do with more detail regarding procedures. For 17 aliens can call the dropship whatever they want, calling it The metal bird actually makes less sense as it's supposed to be a translation from th e alien hivemind language. Personally I think you're a bit too lenient with griefing, when it comes to murder even if they don't really have a note history I tend to at least ban them for 3 hours unless it was obviously an accident, mostly as someone who kills another player has most likely not even read the rules and has started playing on the server with an attitude I personally wouldn't welcome.

Overall it's not bad for a first time application, you could use with more forum activity but for now I'll stay neutral, until spoony does hsi thing.
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Re: Jadedshadow - Moderator Application

Post by TheSpoonyCroy » 26 Jul 2017, 12:34

I'm aware of SLC comment but this will probably mean I'll probably be asking you a bit more questions to see how your process is, so here we go:
  • For question 1, by intentional what do you mean in this respect? Also, if this is a continuous thing I would like to give me example ban times for these scenarios

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    1. No notes
    
    2. 3 notes (1 ban as well) in recent time but they are all based on the player's name
    
    3. 1 note from the past 2 months about being warned about talking with netspeak in game, 2 notes from 2015 about improper escalation, 1 note again from 2015 for minor grief.
    
    4. 7 notes in a month, all for petty grief, he has been banned 4 times already.
    
  • For question 2, might want to seal the breach if you determine if it wasn't caused by in game mechanics. Also you might want to figure out the player's intent first before acting since intent is a very key part about rule breaks.
  • For question 3, this is fine
  • For question 4, this seems ok but if you can't find anyone admin+s online (on server) what would you do?
  • For question 5, give me an example note for the name "Frank West" .
  • For question 6, keep in mind, we have changed our rules around as of May, which makes this kind of thing an IC thing instead of an OOC thing, which is what we deal with. You can try throwing the mps a bone but best to leave this up to the MPs to do their job.
  • For question 7, always keep in mind to always read the player's notes before passing a punishment, prior history is key to giving them the proper "punishment"
    So for this one I will provide a set of sample notes. Tell me the punishment you would give the player based on these.

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    Was warned for the name “Robert Speedwagon” by CrumpetDestoryer on March 7, 2017
    Warned for killing players who FF them accidently by PupperJustice on April 16, 2017
    Player was found using bug to kill players from out of sight as a xeno by MasterCakes on April 17, 2017 
    Was warned about hacking doors as a doctor by TheTophatsAreInTheHouse on May 1, 2017
    Was warned about preforming surgery as a medic by SeiIsBestGril on June 6, 2017
    Banned by PupperJustice, Found again getting petty revenge over accidental ff,, 180 minutes placed by PupperJustice on June 10, 2017.
    Found to be withholding treatment to patients leading to their death over minor dispute. By DorothyIsTrash on June 12, 2017
    Banned by StandBehindCannon, found to be metagaming the infection and prior history influence this ban. Placed by StandBehindCannon on July 10, 2017
    
  • For question 8, sadly you can't and you have to remember that the AI needs to sound very robotic which many users didn't make it sound. So reason why that ability was removed from mod hands
  • For question 9, this is fine
  • For question 10, slight typo here but what do you mean by escalate, what would be the line for you?
  • For question 11, again remember to check their prior history before placing down any punishment.
  • For question 12, might have to reword this one
  • For question 13, how would you tell them?
  • For question 14, what would be the ban time you give the offender for the first time?
  • For question 15,this seems fine
  • For question 16, would you just ask them?
  • For question 17, ^^^^^ would there be anything else you do that is more than this or just simply suggest it?
  • For question 18, where would you find is the breaking point for difference of placing a ban or job ban? I might have to reword that but how many notes/prior history would you feel would be needed to place a ban or jobban?
  • For question 19, again prior history
  • For question 20, how would you try to correct them?
  • For question 20a, this is fine
  • For question 21, ok.
I will say I'm very neutral. I can understand that English isn't your first language but you will probably be a tad more detailed with this app. Lets see how you deal with criticism before I pass any judgements on you. Also a minor complaint I have with you is your post history. You've had this account since 2015 but you only have 4 posts prior to this one. What changed your mind to become staff?

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Re: Jadedshadow - Moderator Application

Post by jadedshadow » 26 Jul 2017, 15:56

Q1
What I meant intentional is usually IC when someone fire their gun on accident they would say something like sorry, misfire and so on
1: I'll leave a warning and a note
2: 1 ban
3:3 day ban
4:7 day ban then perma

Q4
I'll go on slack or discord

Q5
(I would of let it be I don't know who frank west is to me is sound just fine) name is a tricky parts people could take name from the anything from popular game to obscure ones, I had a similar thing too for a while my IC name was Hayden Tenno, I took this name from dark sector/warframe, I had it about a year till some one told me to change it. Yea name is just tricky.

Q7
I'll go for perma, this player does not care for the server rules.

Q10
when I meant by escalate, I mean if it turns in to a shoot out that's the line for me

Q12
I'll try finding other admins to deal with the issue, if none are on the server I'll contacting them on discord or slack.

Q13
I'll ask the players kindly that another player does not feel comfortable with the comments and they would please stop.

Q14
3 day ban

Q16
I'll tell them they are breaking xeno rules and needs to stop.

Q17
I can tell that player to ask what the rest of the hive call it or tell them to read the xeno rules.

Q18
Really I'll give a job ban due to you need to apply for CO role, the player should be know what not to do

Q20
I'll tell them the information from the rules page or what ever the problem is

Sorry for the lack of details, writing is not my thing. About my post history that's just my me being me, as in I don't really post I'll read post but won't really post anything unless I have too.
About me becoming a staff this is not the first time I though about it, back in nostromo the amount of grief was nuts when admins were not on.

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Re: Jadedshadow - Moderator Application

Post by TheSpoonyCroy » 27 Jul 2017, 07:38

jadedshadow wrote:-snip-
  • For response 1,can your provide the reasoning for you placing those times? I also assume 1b that is 1 day, correct?
  • For response 5,by me saying the name in that question, its going to imply its some kind of reference. Imagine someone ahelps "There is a marine running around with the name Frank West", what do you do from there? That was the scenario I was trying set up there.
  • For response 16, so you aren't going to note them?
  • For response 17, I would say be very careful with using statements like " tell them to read the xeno rules." since it can really make you look foolish and I'm not doing this to be spiteful, more to say I've done the same and its best to avoid the same mistakes.

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    Talk like one. It is fine to use words like "medbay" and "shuttle". You can also replace "shuttle" with "metal bird" if you wish. Hivemind is the English translation of a Xeno's thoughts. However, keep it formal and realistic.
  • For response 18, that doesn't really my question of where you draw the line.
Also we do expect our staff members to have some involvement with our community or with other staff either in the discord/forums/slack.

In hindsight I probably should of spread out the dates of question 7

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Re: Jadedshadow - Moderator Application

Post by Jay Burns » 27 Jul 2017, 10:47

don't really have much to add, app is alright, haven't actually seen anything on the player front, then again that's not really a bad thing, the only problem I see is the language barrier which you seem to have worked past, +1

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Re: Jadedshadow - Moderator Application

Post by TheMaskedMan2 » 27 Jul 2017, 10:59

After going through what others have said, I really think my overall impression is neutral. I genuinely think you need to put more effort and detail into your application questions, they aren't exactly bad, but there are certain issues I think you would need to work on in order to be staff. Spoony did a pretty good analysis overall of this application, and while i'm not opposed to you becoming a moderator, I think i'm going to have to remain neutral for now.
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Re: Jadedshadow - Moderator Application

Post by driecg36 » 27 Jul 2017, 11:36

Decent app, seems willing to improve, and works dead hour.

Really, the only gripe I have with this is your somewhat low involvement on the forums and the community, but that can always be worked on. Otherwise, a +1 from me.
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Re: Jadedshadow - Moderator Application

Post by Swagile » 27 Jul 2017, 12:10

Im neutral for the same reason Masked is; just not feeling it with this app. Plus the language barrier seems to be more than just poor punctuation or run on sentences like another app; this is missing entire words and is tough to make sense of. Detail is missing as well that other apps have in spades, but the player is trying hence why ill stay neutral until the concerns raised by Spoony are noticed and fixed.
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Re: Jadedshadow - Moderator Application

Post by Jaketeaking » 27 Jul 2017, 13:01

gonna have to say -1, responses to spoony's questions whilst werent necessarily bad, werent great either. The lack of community engagement and i have no idea who you are IC, the fact you didnt take 30 seconds to google who frank west is rings a bell, as well as the lack of explaining how exactly you would contact the player, leads me to this decision.
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Re: Jadedshadow - Moderator Application

Post by TexasTwoStep » 27 Jul 2017, 13:09

Howdy,

You failed to respond to: Do you have any previous experience in being staff (not just SS13)?

Q1: What would be something in the player's notes that would constitute them being warned? In addition, what would be something in the player's notes that would constitute a ban? How long would you ban them for?
Q2: You said you would leave it if it was natural, but then clarified by saying if the 'drop ship bugged out or something' you would leave it, causing a round flip for Marines who can now no-longer approach the hive (dropship). What would be something in the player's notes that would constitute them being warned? In addition, what would be something in the player's notes that would constitute a ban? How long would you ban them for?
Q3: Very-Good.
Q4: Honestly, as a Assistant Manager at Domino's Pizza when someone gives me attitude and asks for a Manager and I have to give them the ole' "I am the Manager." treatment, they flip 180 and tilt further onto you, but it's a needed evil. You don't want to carry any ill-legitimate complaints up the chain-of-command THROUGH admin-helps, it's best that they follow what you tell them to and post a staff complaint later if they feel it was biased or unjust. Keeps things fair, and organized.
Q5: Good, always warn first; however, it's a warning for having the name and failing to change it next round if an Administrator isn't available to edit their variables should be a ban depending on their attitude. Some people simply forget, however.
Q6: Would you note them? Follow-up with a Job Ban? You're vague in this question, asking for the gear to be returned is a good first step, but you need to follow-through.
Q7: Check their notes first to see if they have a history? Follow-up with a Job Ban if they do, or just warn them again? Which one would you do.
Q8: Right, Moderators don't have ARES Verb, so despite what you've responded to other people in this thread, tell me a way you could do it without subtle-messaging or ARES Annoucement (We do have Hive, as pointed out.)
Q9: Why even bother to message them, they're not doing anything wrong.
Q10: Again, not all situations require admin-escalation, unless it was adminhelped, best to leave it in-character.
Q11: Were you going to check notes first? Would you aheal the killed Marine? In addition, what would be something in the player's notes that would constitute a ban? How long would you ban them for?
Q12: How would you explain that to UturiousMucher310 / (Tymo Hinoakim) who BADLY needs an Administrator for his round to continue? Is there anything you could do to try to help him?
Q13: It is the internet, as per the rules unless it's direct harassment of one-player, in this case i'd personnel tell them to 'suck-it-up' buttercup, in the nicest-professional-way. It's a matter of you telling them that, then everytime it happens from a player they dislike, they'll adminhelp it and it leads to arguing and the player getting upset.
Q14: Okay.
Q15: You wouldn't note them for the incident if they hadn't have any previous notes? What if they're new?
Q16: What about conga-line dancing?
Q17: Why? They can call it a dropship as that's what it is, you're welcome to subtle-message if you'd like to suggest something to them, but a PM is a little forceful.
Q18: Right, Okay.
Q19: As long as the situation is roleplayed out, that is a extreme-exception in the lethal-force rules, if both parties can have a laugh from it, then no moderator interaction is needed (includes noting).
Q20: I see alot of Moderators, especially mentors go around the back of the answering Mod/Mentor to PM them exactly, I did it the other-day, but the circumstances were a bit more like the ahelp had gone unanswered. Always PM the Mod/Mentor first, so that they can fix their mistakes in a way that doesn't confuse the player.
Q20a: Follow the Chain-of-Command, ultimately there is one person who will demote/warn/punish a staff-member, but it's always best if SLC can re-educate them first.
Q21: You wouldn't tell him it's funny that you were with HIS Mom last night? Good. There's hope for you yet.

Application seems rushed, grammar; especially capitalization could use some work indefinitely.

After reading Adralimas's application, why should I take you over him? That's not how we do applications, but from a job-hiring aspect, if you two applied and I only had ONE position, why should I pick you?

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Re: Jadedshadow - Moderator Application

Post by Emeraldblood » 27 Jul 2017, 13:38

I'm on the edge myself, it's not bad, but it's not amazing either; it's just par, so is that going to be good enough to be accepted on the team? I'd say give it some time and try again in a month or two. A moot point to some people, but I feel like you should be able to write grammatically correct sentences in English if you're going to get a job that is 95% talking to the player-base a lot. I understand English can be really hard to learn for non-native speakers but it could get in the way of trying to communicate with a lot of the salty ahelps we get. I'd probably say -1 but I could still be pushed over to a positive vote if you show you can answer all the questions in a correct manner.
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Re: Jadedshadow - Moderator Application

Post by slc97 » 29 Jul 2017, 14:33

Unfortunately, I'm going to deny this. The applicant is good, and seems more than willing to learn, but the language barrier seems to be too much of a problem. However, if the applicant is able to improve his English writing skills, he is more than welcome to apply again in the future.

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