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Raising the minimal HP survivors start with

Post by Matt141 » 19 Mar 2015, 21:54

Suggestion Title: Raising minimal survivor HP

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary): Basicly, raise the minimal survivor HP, as of right now you can start with RED HP, in which case,
you are fucked from the round start, since you won't be able to outrun the beginning drones in any way(ESPECIALLY if they spawn near you, then thats certain capture).

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole): It would actually make a challenge for the drones to capture survivors and give them a chance to run away. As of right now, if you spawn with red HP near a drone, you are dead. I talked with some alien drones after I bursted, and they agreed it was pretty shitty.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc): Just make it so the wounds you spawn with as a survivor don't put you on red hp right next to critical, and so that you can run atleast.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it): I think you would need to change some variables in the code, not really sure how survivor role works code-wise.
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Post by SecretStamos (Joshuu) » 19 Mar 2015, 22:13

I was one of the starting aliens and I found a survivor. His starting wound was so bad he fell over and bled to death. I didn't even touch him.

Maybe it would be cool if survivors started with a random object in their hands/backpack. Goonstation has something like that.
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RE: Raising the minimal HP survivors start with

Post by Matt141 » 19 Mar 2015, 22:15

Woah, thats even worse than the head wound I started with, shows how bad the... wound RNG(?) is.

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RE: Raising the minimal HP survivors start with

Post by Davidchan » 19 Mar 2015, 23:51

Why the hell are survivors starting wounded? It's bad enough they supposedly survived this long without any gear (food,tools,weapons) but starting critically injured makes me question why you don't just spawn in a couple extra monkies and remove the survivor role if it's being geared towards an easy infestation.

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Post by MrJJJ » 19 Mar 2015, 23:55

Davidchan wrote: Why the hell are survivors starting wounded? It's bad enough they supposedly survived this long without any gear (food,tools,weapons)
They had gear, they were forced to drop everything to save they life and got injuried in process
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Post by SecretStamos (Joshuu) » 20 Mar 2015, 00:06

Davidchan wrote: Why the hell are survivors starting wounded? It's bad enough they supposedly survived this long without any gear (food,tools,weapons) but starting critically injured makes me question why you don't just spawn in a couple extra monkies and remove the survivor role if it's being geared towards an easy infestation.
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Post by UnknownMurder » 20 Mar 2015, 07:05

Survivors are people who survived alien infestation.

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Post by coroneljones » 20 Mar 2015, 09:09

A good survivor can easily get to the brig or engineering in seconds really
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Post by Raikyh » 20 Mar 2015, 10:08

Not if you keep falling down due to your injuries. Besides, why are survivors wounded? Aliens can't slash them, so how did they get wounded? They encountered a dumb queen? Or anything like that? If not, there's no reason for them to be wounded.
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Post by coroneljones » 20 Mar 2015, 10:33

Either Slashing,acid,insane crewmember or such..they could have faced a warrior before
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Post by Matt141 » 20 Mar 2015, 14:30

coroneljones wrote: A good survivor can easily get to the brig or engineering in seconds really
Thing is, sometimes you spawn in such a way that its just not possible, yesterday I spawned in a arrivals escape pod while a drone spawned right under me, then two more drones came running into arrivals chasing a different survivor, just had no way to escape into security/engineering on red health.

The only thing you can do in a situation like that is just go sit in a locker and well... That's not really interesting.
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Post by coroneljones » 20 Mar 2015, 14:42

Drones shouldnt really be hunting unless a queen says so...or they have huggers and the hive is done
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Post by Minimike » 20 Mar 2015, 15:25

Drones really shouldn't hunt anything other than monkeys.. atleast that's my opinion. You wouldn't see a construction worker hunting for food. (Bad example. But you still get my point I hope)

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Post by Doctor Clockwork » 20 Mar 2015, 18:07

SecretStamos (Joshuu) wrote: I was one of the starting aliens and I found a survivor. His starting wound was so bad he fell over and bled to death. I didn't even touch him.

Maybe it would be cool if survivors started with a random object in their hands/backpack. Goonstation has something like that.
This happened to me first time I was survivor when they spawned with no clothes.

I was outside of IAA, and slowly slowly slowly bled to death because my leg was broken and I kept falling. #NoHope

Eventually revived, and then instantly hugged by the alien camping my body.
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RE: Raising the minimal HP survivors start with

Post by Davidchan » 21 Mar 2015, 00:05

It just seems illogical to me that a survivor starts out both wounded and practically naked. No weapons, no extra gear and wounded?

I know we don't have a set time for how long it's been since the Xenos appeared on the Nostromo and took over the station, but crippling the survivors in addition to leaving them nearly defenceless hardly seems fair. The survivor role, to my understanded, was implemented to give RP opportunities, both in playing a clearly shaken up individual who went through hell, but also giving the Marines someone to interact with that isn't in their chain of command or out to kill them.

They aren't supposed to be easy snags for aliens to take as host, that's what monkeys are for, plenty of people ghost specifically to play as a Xeno rather than be a marine. Survivors shouldn't be stronger than marines, but they shouldn't be helpless either.

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Post by coroneljones » 21 Mar 2015, 05:58

Survivors dont. Spawn naked now...also for weapons
Guns in the armory and escape
And use the damn welder,you can easily kill a drone with it
I am Crornel Jrones, grorious admin of Coronial Mahreens. U ar arr nast Trorr and will be ding dong bannu. U critizize Xenos? Ding dong Bannu. U no rike grorious adminnu? Ding dong Bannu. U comrpain about Marine nerfs? Dingdong bannu. U comprain about grorrious adminnu? O yoo betta bereev dat's a bannu. It has come to my Grorrious attention dat nasty trorr has been imidatingu me on serveru, dis is a shamfrul dispray and unacceptaboo so dey ding dong bannu. End of Rine -----------------Rine ends here.'
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