Observing players before round start should be entered into the random pole to become a alien.

Lucius Jones · Post by **Lucius Jones** » 18 Jun 2015, 14:41

Summary (It would be a good idea for this to be implemented as i Observe before round start to be a alien, and i asked and you cannot be a starting alien unless you are a ready up person, so i thought this might wanna be put in as observing people be enterd into the pole for bieng a xeno at round start too.):

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Sargeantmuffinman · Post by **Sargeantmuffinman** » 18 Jun 2015, 14:46

What?

TopHatPenguin · Post by **TopHatPenguin** » 18 Jun 2015, 14:47

i don't really understand this.. so is it you can ready up while being a observer to become a round start alien or.. ?

Felkvir · Post by **Felkvir** » 18 Jun 2015, 14:50

Ahh, a bit short ... Basically what i got is to just give observer ghosts a random chance to become a starting alien if they have the candidacy on.. So there will be a few more starting aliens sometimes.

TopHatPenguin · Post by **TopHatPenguin** » 18 Jun 2015, 14:53

Felkvir wrote:Ahh, a bit short ... Basically what i got is to just give observer ghosts a random chance to become a starting alien if they have the candidacy on.. So there will be a few more starting aliens sometimes.

Ah okay that makes sense, not really sure how this would work balance wise but eh.. sure..

Butterrobber202 · Post by **Butterrobber202** » 18 Jun 2015, 15:04

Meh, I see where he comes from, Want to be a starting Drone so you Declare Ready and you turn out to be a Marine

UnknownMurder · Post by **UnknownMurder** » 18 Jun 2015, 15:22

I do not understand the concept of this suggestion.

Post by **crazyh206** » 18 Jun 2015, 15:46

UnknownMurder wrote:I do not understand the concept of this suggestion.

From what the others are saying is that gives people who observe a chance to be a round start alien

Evilkyle24 · Post by **Evilkyle24** » 18 Jun 2015, 15:54

+1, and here's why.

We had one round where the alien players had gone observer. Round couldn't start and the admins had to intervene to fix it. Allowing pre-round start observers to be entered in the candidacy for starting alien would fix problems like this and problem like there being only two aliens.

Felkvir · Post by **Felkvir** » 18 Jun 2015, 16:00

It could fix that ... It could also possibly slightly unbalance things maybe with a lot of starting aliens. I dunno .. Let's try it, eh?

HalfdeadKiller · Post by **HalfdeadKiller** » 18 Jun 2015, 23:26

Well, aren't starting aliens based on how many players are readied up? So, if starting aliens are based on players readied up, and the alien players went observer, it would still be balanced based on the readied up percentage. It just makes sure those who observed with the preference on get put in the pool of who gets to be a starting alien, without counting them as readied up. If observers count towards being readied up, then it might introduce balance issues, as dedicated observer aliens may get chosen, while the observers not chosen will not count towards marine population.

I dunno, this sounds a little complex when put into words. I don't know if it is necessary though, as if you ready up and get marine instead of alien, you can simply climb into a sleeper and use the ghost command. No one cares if you ghost in a sleeper as a marine.

MrJJJ · Post by **MrJJJ** » 18 Jun 2015, 23:35

Meh…
Neutral on this for now…
I don't know…this seems both good and bad…

UnknownMurder · Post by **UnknownMurder** » 19 Jun 2015, 00:17

Sounds like it'll fuck up the RNG system with complicated codes.

Lucius Jones · Post by **Lucius Jones** » 19 Jun 2015, 16:26

well, if you allow the rule 'you can spawn and ghost in the sleepers, just dont ghost outside them' then it fixes the problem without any coding changes, and makes sure no 'new' moderator bans you for ghosting at round start.

Post by **apophis775** » 25 Jun 2015, 03:41

THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

FUCK THAT.

FOREVER.

You shits who enter "observer" mode, are just fucking yourselves, because the total number of aliens, is based on players-logged in, not players-ready.

So basically, if there are 40 players in game, you'll have around 8 aliens. BUT GUESS WHAT. If there are only 30 people readied up, you'll get:

8 aliens
3 survivors
19 marines
10 fuckhead observers bitching about not being aliens.

Sorry if I seem harsh with this, but "Observers at roundstart" is a bit of a sore spot with me, since it's fucking with my numbers, and throwing the game out of balance.

But, if we did that, Marines would be able to skew the aliens to lower numbers, by having people who wanted to be basic marines, wait until the game started and join.

Post by **apophis775** » 25 Jun 2015, 03:43

Oh by the way, if you couldn't tell:

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