Reinstate Icon Power

[TopHatPenguin]

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary): So.. eh.. yeah GA's use to have icon power to do fun little things like change sprites of stuff but after the
' Incident ' they don't have it anymore, so i propose to reinstate it.. so we can have some spiced up events/rounds with different sprites for stuff basically how it use to work.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole): You can change the sprites/icons of stuff

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc): Just by re-adding it really so we can have stuff like it use to be :3

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it): Re-add it to permissions

[Cyclus]

+1 needs more immersive custom sprites.

[MrGabol100]

Ah, like those necromorphs little events or the first runner things and that, Yeah! Neato. +1

[Felkvir]

Uh, this. Sprite changing is within debug but we are denied from that... So..

[Infernus]

I'm not sure why it is even in debug section. There is no way you can screw up the server with it. It would be nice for mappers to have it too, to quickly check/test items without compiling the whole source and hosting it.

[coroneljones]

I miss icon changing

[UnknownMurder]

+1
I've got sprites, event ideas, and such.

[Felkvir]

What Jones said.

[Mordrehel]

It'd be hard to do because of how the permissions are set up... its under massive flags like +DEBUG or something of the sort however, you could go in and change individual verbs under those flags but then again changing sprites should just be under var-edit with additional restrictions to that particular variable. If removing said restrictions wouldn't be too hard yeah, that'd be cool.

+1

[TopHatPenguin]

It'd be hard to do because of how the permissions are set up... its under massive flags like +DEBUG or something of the sort however, you could go in and change individual verbs under those flags but then again changing sprites should just be under var-edit with additional restrictions to that particular variable. If removing said restrictions wouldn't be too hard yeah, that'd be cool.

+1

Fairly sure it was moved to the DEBUG bit, so i'm fairly confident that they can just move it back if need be..

[Felkvir]

Yep ... I'd like if one the devs actually knows WHY it was moved/denied from admins all of the sudden

[TopHatPenguin]

Yep ... I'd like if one the devs actually knows WHY it was moved/denied from admins all of the sudden

Wasn't it due to these reasons...

1) We wanted to be more lore friendly as a server
2) Most events were being pretty shitty at the time ( No offence of course )
3) People probably complained like they always did... >.>

These are all me guessing by the way, Well some of it is.

[apophis775]

Here's the thing, is we give debug to GAs, it gives them access to a LOT of things they shouldn't have access to, things that can really fuck shit up if they don't know what they are doing.

Specifically, also, this was REMOVED after an abuse-fest with it, a few months back resulting in invincible predators that murdered a majority of the crew, and resulted in staff removals.

So, what is to stop that from happening again?

[Mordrehel]

Allow people to fuck up and you realize who shouldn't be around. Don't give people the tools to fuck up and you may never understand there is a problem.

I'd say the fucking up part is an easy fix and therefore the positive benefits should be observed.

[Infernus]

"So, what is to stop that from happening again?"
Switch icon changing from +DEBUG to +BUILDMODE or something.

[TopHatPenguin]

Here's the thing, is we give debug to GAs, it gives them access to a LOT of things they shouldn't have access to, things that can really fuck shit up if they don't know what they are doing.

Specifically, also, this was REMOVED after an abuse-fest with it, a few months back resulting in invincible predators that murdered a majority of the crew, and resulted in staff removals.

So, what is to stop that from happening again?

The way i see it goes some thing along the lines of...
1)If a staff member fucks up with icons there will mostly likely be an admin complaint or.. if a fellow staff member is online they will probably notify you and thus getting said staff member removed.
2)Also As Josh has said couldn't you just move the Icon power to some other thing (No idea about the technical stuff so i'll just call it a thing.) where it only has icon power as a verb?
3)If this causes too many problems couldn't you run say trial periods? ( Not really sure where i'm going with this but eh.. )
4) I'm also agreed with Mord on this as well..

[TopHatPenguin]

Bumping this.

[Gentlefood]

+1 I'd like to see a bit of, controlled, custom shenanigans from time to time. Plus variety is the spice of life. I agree with the other points that if a staff member abuses the system, it is not the system at fault but the staff member.

[Felkvir]

.... Bump

[MrJJJ]

I agree completley, it was amazing to see them from time to time, truly sad to see them go, but the issues man...*sigh* they are so problematic...

[Edgelord]

+1, I want to see a Starship Troopers event

[TopHatPenguin]

So it's been a fair while now anything else anyone would like to add before apop views it?

[apophis775]

I'm working on something for this.