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Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary):
Update the code of honor. Stop predators from hunting together.
Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole):
Prey will have a fighting chance against predators.
Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc):
It's impossible for any alien to kill a group of two or more predators. You pounce one? The other one kills you. You spit at one? Can't tackle and kill him, the other one will shoot at you while cloaked with a weapon that kills you in four shots and has no bullet travel time. If you get a group of aliens to charge a group of predators, you'll just get cut to pieces by said ranged weapons while you try to figure out where the heck you're being shot from.
Predators fighting in groups go directly against the "Prey can defend itself and/or is able to kill the hunter" part of the Predator Code of Honor.
Stop Predators from Hunting Together
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Juninho77
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Stop Predators from Hunting Together
"Do not go gentle into that good night; rage, rage against the dying of the light."
If you would permaban a player, you owe it to him to look into his logs and hear his side of the story. And if you cannot bear to do that, then perhaps the player does not deserve to be banned.
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CampinKiller
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Re: Stop Predators from Hunting Together
I'm pretty sure that Predators aren't supposed to attack while cloaked.
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Juninho77
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Re: Stop Predators from Hunting Together
"Killing while cloaked: It is very dishonorable for a hunter to kill prey while he is cloaked. It ignores all laws of fair and honorable hunting, and giving the prey a fighting chance. You may hunt and chase your prey while cloaked, but you must make the kill uncloaked. The only exception, is removing obstacles between yourself and your pray (for example, marines interfering with you hunting a ravager that are attacking you) or if you are attacked by a creature you are not hunting (if your hunting the queen, and praetorians attack you)."CampinKiller wrote:I'm pretty sure that Predators aren't supposed to attack while cloaked.
If a predator knocks you into crit and only THEN decloaks to kill you, he's still following the Code of Honor. And nothing stops a predator from arguing: "We were hunting the sentinel, then the runner leaped us."
Last edited by Juninho77 on 19 Jul 2015, 11:47, edited 1 time in total.
"Do not go gentle into that good night; rage, rage against the dying of the light."
If you would permaban a player, you owe it to him to look into his logs and hear his side of the story. And if you cannot bear to do that, then perhaps the player does not deserve to be banned.
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Abbysynth
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Re: Stop Predators from Hunting Together
Predators who follow the letter of the law and not the spirit are still to be punished. If you're fighting dishonorably, expect to get it removed. Decloaking next to someone and killing them before they can fight back is dishonorable. If a prey can't fight back, under ANY circumstances, it's dishonorable. No exceptions, admins included.
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Juninho77
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Re: Stop Predators from Hunting Together
So if you leap a predator and get body-slammed and stunned, the predator can't shoot/melee you to death while you are weakened?Abbysynth wrote:Predators who follow the letter of the law and not the spirit are still to be punished. If you're fighting dishonorably, expect to get it removed. Decloaking next to someone and killing them before they can fight back is dishonorable. If a prey can't fight back, under ANY circumstances, it's dishonorable. No exceptions, admins included.
"Do not go gentle into that good night; rage, rage against the dying of the light."
If you would permaban a player, you owe it to him to look into his logs and hear his side of the story. And if you cannot bear to do that, then perhaps the player does not deserve to be banned.
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Artouris
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Re: Stop Predators from Hunting Together
Also if we're somewhat on the topic of predators not following the honor code. Which for the most part hasn't been followed for a while. Can we put in something where you are not allowed to bait marines into attacking you? Because that happened a few rounds ago where we saw a predator, didn't shoot it, then it started dragging me around while cloaked and when i was armed. I doubt it was just having fun. Not to mention it wouldn't stop pushing a marine to the point where the marine opened fire on it. Then the predator proceeded to kill any marine it saw. Like it even shot me with the plasma caster when i was unarmed and trying to communicate to it so it would not proceed to murder all the marines.
Sorry about that rant, but can we also prevent Predators from baiting Marines into attacking them, and +1 on not hunting together (unless its traveling together, which i believe is fine, but the actual hunt is not).
Sorry about that rant, but can we also prevent Predators from baiting Marines into attacking them, and +1 on not hunting together (unless its traveling together, which i believe is fine, but the actual hunt is not).
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Re: Stop Predators from Hunting Together
Let me clarify:
Predators can not KILL from cloak. They can engage, LIMITED from cloak. Say, trying to lure prey from a group by shooting at the group, or break a group up. However, they should be using the LOWEST power setting if they are doing that, and shouldn't use it as a method to stun and then kill.
We are working on a "prey" system, where predators will be able to "declare" their prey (one prey at a time), so that other preds know, AND staff knows.
Additionally, if 2 predators are hunting sentinels together, and a runner leaps in, that runner is NOT prey, and is considered under the "non-hunted animal" aspect of the code.
Anyway, I'm working a bit more on the code, to fit with some loreish stuff.
Predators are TESTS right now, NOT final.
Just know, there is a DIFFERENCE between prey and non-prey, we just need to get a better method to distinguish.
However, remember that preds will be under a SHIT-TASTIC amount of scrutiny, and it will be VERY EASY for preds to lose their position on the white-list.
Predators can not KILL from cloak. They can engage, LIMITED from cloak. Say, trying to lure prey from a group by shooting at the group, or break a group up. However, they should be using the LOWEST power setting if they are doing that, and shouldn't use it as a method to stun and then kill.
We are working on a "prey" system, where predators will be able to "declare" their prey (one prey at a time), so that other preds know, AND staff knows.
Additionally, if 2 predators are hunting sentinels together, and a runner leaps in, that runner is NOT prey, and is considered under the "non-hunted animal" aspect of the code.
Anyway, I'm working a bit more on the code, to fit with some loreish stuff.
Predators are TESTS right now, NOT final.
Just know, there is a DIFFERENCE between prey and non-prey, we just need to get a better method to distinguish.
However, remember that preds will be under a SHIT-TASTIC amount of scrutiny, and it will be VERY EASY for preds to lose their position on the white-list.