ALPHA Add an engine core vent button

[Evilkyle24]

Name: Hydrogen
Symbol: H
Atomic Number: 1
Atomic Mass: 1.00794 amu

Name: Helium
Symbol: He
Atomic Number: 2
Atomic Mass: 4.002602 amu

Hydrogen is a better gas for balloons because of its lower atomic mass resulting in it being more buoyant. We should use hydrogen for all balloons.

... Hindenburg.

[WyattH]

... Hindenburg.

Hindenburg burned up for more reasons than just the fact that it contained Hydrogen, a modern airship filled with Hydrogen would be far safer now with modern materials and engineering.

[Astralenigma]

I did my experiment and my findings were that phoron is slower to freeze than nitrogen. Meaning it's a good emergency coolant because it can absorb more energy but has a full replacement for nitro is simply not a good idea if it isn't several degrees below 0ºC enough to not combust.
So Surrealistik stop defending that phoron is a better coolant, good coolants change their temperature faster.

[Surrealistik]

Um re read what this is about... venting the core room isn't a more efficient way to cool the sm.... and would not be a good idea to do to set it up... that would have an opposite effect of blowing it up actually.

I'm not saying you vent to cool the SM, I'm saying you vent it to prepare for Phoron injection.

Further, yes, Phoron is absolutely a better coolant than N2; it is capable of absorbing more heat, and therefore enables the Supermatter engine to produce more power. Further, if adequately cooled it does not result in an explosion, and in fact can be left without supervision.

N2 is for people who don't know what they're doing/the lazy. If you're new or can't be bothered (though what else you'd do as an Engineer prior to the threat of alien invasion I have no idea), by all means use N2.

[TR-BlackDragon]

When I am CE I get the SM producing 900k power every round using only n2. If you need more power then that there is something wrong with the ship and your crew.

[Surrealistik]

It's good to have a couple million in the system in order to make effective electrified barricades/traps.

[Astralenigma]

Surrealistik I went to the baystation server to try to understand what makes them think that them say phoron is a good N2 replacement and I was kinda shocked to discover that they don't harness the radiation of the engine but instead the high temperature of the gases they use thermo-electric engines which work on temperature differences, as I said phoron receives heat at the same ratio as N2 the only difference is that it's temperature increases and decreases slower, meaning that it would be harder to fix the problem when it escalates, either way with basic knowledge of atmospherics you would know that it would be simple to replace the phoron with N2 without having to vent and looking at the way the engine is setup I don't see a reason to add a venting mechanism unless we have a way to cool gases outside of the engine loop.

This server engine works on radiation instead of temperature meaning the more hits the SM takes the better the less temperature it has the better, the baystation engine on the other hand is as long as it isn't affecting the SM's stability the better adding the fact that when the phoron is too heated they can open the valves and lower the temperature in an instance with the phoron that is being cooled by space makes phoron a not so bad coolant.

TL:DR- Phoron absorbs more heat before increasing temperature but also needs to get rid of more heat to decrease temperature making it a not so good coolant with the added factor of being fire fuel.

[Surrealistik]

Keep in mind that to properly phoron cool, you supercool _before_ initiating the engine, so dissipating large quantities of heat isn't a problem (barring a fuck up). Depending on how much you blast the SM, you may have to build additional coolers however to stabilize temperatures, but you should have plenty of time to do so (unless you _really_ go nuts).

Second, Phoron's greater heat absorption limit (before temperatures increase) ultimately means that you can have a higher maximum power output, since the more you blast the SM the more heat it produces alongside additional harvestable radiation. Being able to safely absorb more heat without temperatures increasing to critical levels ultimately means more power. Supercooled phoron reactors, with supercooled phoron gas in the radiation collectors can manage several million watts of power easily, unlike N2 reactors.

[TR-BlackDragon]

Ahh Well then my friend Maybe write up steps to do this with out blowing it up? Cause if thats true then Id love to know how to do it.

[Evilkyle24]

I stay away from the supermatter because I have the frightening capacity to make it explode even if I follow the guide exactly.

[Surrealistik]

Nothing much to it.

#1: Cool the phoron; evacuate the phoron canister into the cooling section of the reactor loop, set the temperatures to minimum. Remember to make sure the feed into the core chamber is turned off. You will also want to empty the phoron from the phoron tanks into the cooling section; do this by emptying the phoron tanks into the portable scrubber, which you then feed into the cooling section exactly like a canister (wrench it to an input port).

#2: Evacuate all gas from the core chamber; set the filters in the output section of the reactor loop to filter phoron back into the cooling section.

#3: When the phoron is sufficiently cold (-100 or less) fill eight phoron tanks with it and insert them into the radiation collectors.

#4: Release the cold phoron into the core chamber.

#5: Fire the emitter at the supermatter. I don't remember the optimal number of times, but I think it's around 12ish shots. I don't recommend experimenting until you complete #6.

#6: Have science give you the parts for additional cooling units (say 4) you can add to the cooling section; this allows you to stabilize or even gradually reduce the core temperature over time. More cooling units also effectively increase the generation capacity of the supermatter engine, as it allows you to shoot the SM more before temperatures destabilize and begin to increase without limit.

#7: Add the additional cooling units. Make sure you have the parts and space to construct at least one additional cooling unit.

#8: Once you have additional cooling units in place, optimize the SM output by shooting it, and then checking the change in temperature over time. Repeat this process until you notice temperatures gradually increasing without any sign of slowing or deceleration. Stop bombarding at this point and construct additional cooling units until the temperature either stabilizes, or begins to decline.

[freemysoul]

To be honest, I semi agree on a Emergency vent button, however if you need an Emergency Vent button you probably failed Criticality stages 1 through 5 and it's great idea to use that core as a giant Orbital Bombardment Round.

Stage 1: Leave the engine to cool down on it's own
Stage 2: Add Extra Cooling System/Bypass Waste
Stage 3: Inject Emergency Coolant
Stage 4: Cycle Coolant
Stage 5: Purge

[HalfdeadKiller]

+1 Phoron is an excellent coolant provided you can maintain it's cooling. It resist heat much better, and you may have a long time to fix the heating issue if you start having an issue. With Nitrogen, the engine will probably blow up before you can fix it unless you are a fast and competent engineer. An engine vent button can help with cooling as it will remove all the hot gas into the chamber, and allow you to pump significantly cooler gas into the cooling system. Why the engine doesn't have a vent button currently baffles me. It does, however, interfere with ejecting the core, as the eject button doesn't open the vent. You can solve this by having three doors. The middle door is the eject door that opens when you press the eject button. The two doors on either side of the eject door, are vent doors. These open when you press the vent button.

[apophis775]

Denied.

Using phoron as a coolant typically results in massive fires. Half the ship was wiped out the other day, because an idiot used phoron as a coolant at a high temp and it combusted.