Alien distinction

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Alien distinction

Post by Kukeke11 » 05 Aug 2015, 17:58

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary):A way to know who that player is could be a special name or just Drone(Marine Name) instead of numbers

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole):Players who prefer alien role will be known better on the server

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc):For instance I have noticed that to apply as staff you have to be a bit known.Well what if you play alien only, then nobody will know you were drone 4466564563453 since next round you will be different drone, also this way player will known who to listen to just like with marines you will usually take tips from a dude you know is good and experienced.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it):Replace number to C key or marine char name.
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Re: Alien distinction

Post by coroneljones » 05 Aug 2015, 18:05

*Pulls the "xenos have no personalities,they are ment to be non special mindless drones" card*

Point explained
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Re: Alien distinction

Post by Kukeke11 » 05 Aug 2015, 18:47

coroneljones wrote:*Pulls the "xenos have no personalities,they are ment to be non special mindless drones" card*

Point explained
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That is not my point to add them personalities , my point is alien player will never be known they wont get into community so easily. Nobody will know who that badass elite praetorian was, who led the alien attack and killed 35 marines (( admin renamed him to elite)). And again it is easier in the community when you are known but if you
are a alien always then everyone will say who the fuck are you.
And why -1? Is Drone(Brad Shatter) game breaking, aliens wont magically get personalities, only thing it does is let good alien players be recognized... so yeah I don't see how this could hurt.

Rename all marines to Marine(56)bla bla bla and they will still have their personalities but alien wont since there is no social gameplay between alien only time I have noticed social conversations is when you see ((out of character talking over hive mind with these brackets)).

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Re: Alien distinction

Post by Thrain » 05 Aug 2015, 20:26

I would actually like to have some sort of word involved in their name, for whatever reason trying to keep track of numbers boggles my brain and I have issue working out which alien to yell at for messing something up. However I also would prefer the name stay random so that you can't work out who is who easily, try to maintain the unknown alien drone thing. My compromise is to name aliens using the Greek letters/NATO phonetic alphabet/maybe a third thing. Hivelord(lambda), Ravager(Victor), instead of the current Drone(82). Perhaps add a number to the end for dealing with situations where there is more than 52ish aliens. (e.g. 'Hivelord(lambda-3)')

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Re: Alien distinction

Post by UnknownMurder » 06 Aug 2015, 01:43

Aliens has no Free Will.
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Re: Alien distinction

Post by Kukeke11 » 06 Aug 2015, 05:21

UnknownMurder wrote:Aliens has no Free Will.
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XD I never said to give them free will maybe read the post next time :D

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Re: Alien distinction

Post by Allan1234 » 06 Aug 2015, 07:30

Jones said it perfectly -1

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Re: Alien distinction

Post by Kukeke11 » 06 Aug 2015, 08:04

Heinrick Archsider wrote:Jones said it perfectly -1
How does Drone(Name) give them personality,just like I said before if marines had numbers they would still have personalities BECAUSE THEY RP humans but aliens DON'T RP humans, things would be the same -.-

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Re: Alien distinction

Post by Allan1234 » 06 Aug 2015, 09:14

they don't have names or anything thought. They are a hivemind/Group mind they don't NEED names they don't CARE about names they can instantly find out who is who and where is who without any real work, adding names would be stupid in every forum.

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Re: Alien distinction

Post by UnknownMurder » 06 Aug 2015, 09:30

Kukeke11 wrote: XD I never said to give them free will maybe read the post next time :D

I stand by what I said. Aliens has no will to name themselves.
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Re: Alien distinction

Post by Derpislav » 06 Aug 2015, 09:35

You're missing the point. What we're suggesting is to add an OOC "tag" so you know which player is playing which alien. When you're an awesome medic, people will just ask "Hey, who was Lockie Hughes?" and after some rounds, you get fame.

When you're an awesome ravager, it will end up being "Who was ravager 24... 26... ... ...the one that decapitated the captain?", and the fact you change numbers when evolving only adds to the confusion.

People will remember you being a good marine after every round, but they'll only remember how good you were as an alien when they've paid attention to numbers and outright asked who played that one.
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Re: Alien distinction

Post by Kukeke11 » 06 Aug 2015, 09:55

UnknownMurder wrote:
I stand by what I said. Aliens has no will to name themselves.
okay you don't get it at all I said it can be namig or it can be Drone(you current chosen character name (aka the marine you have saved in that slot) it the same as fucking number but you will get to keep credit for doing something badass.
And I repeat myself again so maybe this time you will get it, it will be Drone(Cname) instead of Drone(RNG Number) which will still be the same,it wont be his name.
Let say I decide to apply for staff you guys would say uhh you got no ingame time I have never seen you charactername, well NO SHIT cause I'm Drone(48,666,84,596)).
But if i was drone(Brandon Pratt) aka the marine name I have I wont be the unknwon person on the server, people cold say ohh you were the guy who managed to do that and that, but instead right now marines are the one who can get fame for awesome deed ((( AND fucking no it wont mean we have personalities)))

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Re: Alien distinction

Post by Kukeke11 » 06 Aug 2015, 09:58

Heinrick Archsider wrote:they don't have names or anything thought. They are a hivemind/Group mind they don't NEED names they don't CARE about names they can instantly find out who is who and where is who without any real work, adding names would be stupid in every forum.
did you even read O.o that name is not for RP its so Player who play aliens wont be unknown Drone(Bet Shiet) would be same as drone(88) 88 isnt his name.Difference is uhh just read what Derpislav said above me.

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Re: Alien distinction

Post by Jeser » 06 Aug 2015, 10:15

Damn. Too many people misunderstood, but Kukeke, when I read your post I thought that you meant exactly having personal names. In the end of post make UPD: and clarify, that you doesn't mean personal names for aliens, but marine's names of people, who playing this alien.
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Re: Alien distinction

Post by Kukeke11 » 06 Aug 2015, 11:26

Kukeke11 wrote:Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary):A way to know who that player, for instance Drone(Marine Name) instead of numbers

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole):Players who prefer alien role will be known better on the server

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc):For instance I have noticed that to apply as staff you have to be a bit known.Well what if you play alien only, then nobody will know you were drone 4466564563453 since next round you will be different drone, also this way player will known who to listen to just like with marines you will usually take tips from a dude you know is good and experienced.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it):Replace number to C key or marine char name.

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Re: Alien distinction

Post by Evilkyle24 » 06 Aug 2015, 15:43

WHY IS EVERY WORD UNDERLINED!?

Anyway, +1 as an OOC tag so we know who was who and who did what. We can remember who the good queens are and who the bad queens are, the same with other alien roles.
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Re: Alien distinction

Post by HalfdeadKiller » 06 Aug 2015, 21:40

+1 Perhaps an OOC tag upon examination? Similar to Flavour Text? I wouldn't mind knowing who other aliens are played as.

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Re: Alien distinction

Post by apophis775 » 13 Sep 2015, 14:21

Dunno, Aliens aren't supposed to be unique really...

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Re: Alien distinction

Post by TopHatPenguin » 13 Sep 2015, 15:32

I believe i have viewed my opinion on this before but.. i'll do it again.
So as it stands to become a moderator or get whitelisted for things you need to be known by the community which is fine for marines as normally they have static names with the occasional multiple named player, but the issue is that if you only play alien and you strive to become a moderator or want to be on that shiny white-list, you can't due to the system of having no choice in what number or having an OOC Nickname that can only be seen if you examine the alien.

On another for the love of god please stop pulling the " Oh, but aliens are all the same so blah blah nicknames *Angryness* " the point isn't about that they are meant to all be the same,the point is so that alien players actually have a shot at doing something in the community whether it be applying for moderator or making guides, even becoming whitelisted.

My opinion is yes,+1 as alien players have literally nothing to gain out of playing alien besides playing it and if they ever wanted to be more involved within the community they would be shunned by the " We don't know you -1. Denied maybe next time"

I probably repeat myself a bit and i apologise for that, however i really do feel like currently the aliens are getting the bad end of the stick.
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Re: Alien distinction

Post by GingerCultLeader » 13 Sep 2015, 15:36

Maybe make it where the alien's CKey is visible to staff when they talk?
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- Runner 666 (InsertCKeyHere) hisses, "I just want to hug you metal sentinel. Why you not want to be hugged?"

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Re: Alien distinction

Post by Jack McIntyre » 13 Sep 2015, 16:02

I would have to say +1 for the OCC name since the xenos do have times where they evolve because so the stupid guy now has a new number and now you need to find then new number to yell at them for being dumb, that and there are times I actually have good rp as a marine with some xenos and others that just want to murder me. So it would be nice as well.

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Re: Alien distinction

Post by speedybst » 14 Sep 2015, 06:52

Look, once again for everyone that has shot this down quick as you blink, you seem to be mostly taking the lore over usability stance on this. Yes, lore-wise they have no personality, no free will, no blah blah blah. But, these are players, who as penguin pointed out, get no recognition for their time and effort as a xeno. Really, if i have to i'll go and copy pasta the point i made in the last one of these, which just quietly stopped getting posts, but its late and i can't be bothered right now. This has my +1, as really, you're starting to be a little bit smurf chapter about the marines these days, and tend to shoot down this style of suggestion without much thought beyond the " Oh, but aliens are all the same so blah blah nicknames *Angryness* " point that always seems to come.

Really, to put it in perspective, perhaps we should hire staff without using the marine they play for a month and see just how little data we can get on them suddenly.

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Re: Alien distinction

Post by UnknownMurder » 14 Sep 2015, 07:56

Aliens does not need an OOC distinction. That should be found in end game results. Otherwise, people are going to be playing a favorite game called, Favoritism.
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Re: Alien distinction

Post by WyattH » 14 Sep 2015, 09:55

+1

How else can alien players ever get whitelisted?

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Re: Alien distinction

Post by TR-BlackDragon » 14 Sep 2015, 10:15

Alien players should have very Chanice as a marine to be known in the community it's not for the in game use.

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