Allow the Queen to set limits for each caste.

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Allow the Queen to set limits for each caste.

Post by Megalopeos » 25 Aug 2015, 06:12

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary): Allow the Queen to set limits for each caste. For example, if the Queen needs more drones than she does runners, she can restrict the amount of runners available, or completely disallow larvae from evolving into runners.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole): This benefits the server by allowing the players to have a better time. The aliens get more structured organization, allowing for more efficiency when fighting humans. This is also something fun a Queen can do other than just laying eggs and jelly everywhere.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc): This would work by allowing the Queen to choose the number of aliens she needs for each caste. If the aliens are currently losing, the Queen might set runners to high priority, and setting drones to low priority. If they are in the process of making a hive, she would set drones to high priority. Benefits are above.

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Post by Jeser » 25 Aug 2015, 06:14

Actually, it's not bad idea. Queen chooses hive way to evolve, so, makes sense, I like it. +1
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Post by Ninjah! » 25 Aug 2015, 06:27

The aliens are already forced to follow the queens will by rules so I see no way that this could be bad. +1

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Post by Dyne » 25 Aug 2015, 06:44

Interesting concept. Yay for communist dictatorship. +1
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Post by andre1999 » 25 Aug 2015, 07:22

+1 I think this whould stop the issue with people just being 100% silent untill they evolve into what they wanna be.

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Post by Lord Lag » 25 Aug 2015, 09:13

Brilliant idea, +1

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Re: Allow the Queen to set limits for each caste.

Post by Mycroft Macarthur » 25 Aug 2015, 10:26

-1

alien kind of sucks in that you arent really roleplaying like the marines are, theres no crafting stories or making characters, you are one faceless cog in the xenomorph war machine with a bunch of other faceless cogs, the only fun you can get is from gameplay mechanics, next thing you know if you are suddenly being forced to play classes you dont enjoy now fun is no longer on the table so we have to ask ourselves why we're even playing in the first place?

not having an answer, we'll just log out the moment we burst, because fuck that shit.
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Post by Megalopeos » 25 Aug 2015, 10:52

Mycroft Macarthur wrote:-1

alien kind of sucks in that you arent really roleplaying like the marines are, theres no crafting stories or making characters, you are one faceless cog in the xenomorph war machine with a bunch of other faceless cogs, the only fun you can get is from gameplay mechanics, next thing you know if you are suddenly being forced to play classes you dont enjoy now fun is no longer on the table so we have to ask ourselves why we're even playing in the first place?

not having an answer, we'll just log out the moment we burst, because fuck that shit.
That's kind of the whole point of Xenomorphs, if you don't want to be forced to do something, then you shouldn't play Xenomorphs, because you're basically literally required to do ANYTHING the Queen says. Queen told you to kill yourself? Do it. Queen told you to kill your family? Do it. You're a slave to the Queen and everything she says is law and order.

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Post by Mycroft Macarthur » 25 Aug 2015, 12:23

which again, is why we log out the moment we burst, because fuck playing xeno
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Post by Dyne » 25 Aug 2015, 12:24

Mycroft Macarthur wrote:which again, is why we log out the moment we burst, because fuck playing xeno
Thats very unsportsmanlike.
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Post by Megalopeos » 25 Aug 2015, 12:26

Dyne wrote: Thats very unsportsmanlike.

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Post by Steelpoint » 25 Aug 2015, 12:27

To be fair its not uncommon for someone who just died to a opposing team to not want to commit to playing as that very team all of a sudden.

Maybe they just want to observe, or they don't want to help the 'enemy'. Also dying can be a very intense and heated thing.

Overall that's kinda why I prefer /tg/'s system of not having the victim become the larva when it chestbursts. Though the reason for that is more to avoid people sacrificing themselves to become a Alien.
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Post by Mycroft Macarthur » 25 Aug 2015, 12:27

look, lets not mince words here, this is a game, an interesting one, a potentially interesting roleplay environment, but a game nonetheless

if fun cannot be achieved its purpose for existing is GONE! fun is the ENTIRE POINT!
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Post by Dyne » 25 Aug 2015, 12:36

Mycroft Macarthur wrote:look, lets not mince words here, this is a game, an interesting one, a potentially interesting roleplay environment, but a game nonetheless

if fun cannot be achieved its purpose for existing is GONE! fun is the ENTIRE POINT!
Some people play not for fun. But for FUN.
At least ahelp if you ghost as larva.

Back on topic- good proposal, saw 9/10 aliums go runner today, with one sentinel. Fortunately we had a queen.
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Post by sirnat » 25 Aug 2015, 13:18

This is a bad idea for one big reason:

Some players are better at playing the fast attack/tank roles then they are the supporting roles, don't force them to play sentinel if they're good at playing runner.

This is like playing WoW or SWTOR and forcing your tank to be the healer, like really?

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Post by Megalopeos » 25 Aug 2015, 13:35

sirnat wrote:This is a bad idea for one big reason:

Some players are better at playing the fast attack/tank roles then they are the supporting roles, don't force them to play sentinel if they're good at playing runner.

This is like playing WoW or SWTOR and forcing your tank to be the healer, like really?
Yes really, the Xenomorph hierarchy is not a democracy. You are literally fighting for the Queen and you are expected to do everything she says.

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Post by Jeser » 25 Aug 2015, 14:07

And I'm good field engineer and RO, but nobody reserves me this job. And yeah,
andre1999 wrote:+1 I think this whould stop the issue with people just being 100% silent untill they evolve into what they wanna be.
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Post by sirnat » 25 Aug 2015, 14:54

Megalopeos wrote: Yes really, the Xenomorph hierarchy is not a democracy. You are literally fighting for the Queen and you are expected to do everything she says.

You can say it's a hierarchy but it's still a game, and a game is meant for fun. You can't force people to play something they don't want to play or RIP those who are good at certain roles of xeno and won't play until a slot opens. GG

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Post by Jeser » 25 Aug 2015, 15:11

sirnat wrote:
You can say it's a hierarchy but it's still a game, and a game is meant for fun. You can't force people to play something they don't want to play or RIP those who are good at certain roles of xeno and won't play until a slot opens. GG
Ehm. If you like to play as carrier and Queen is telling you to become runner, you WILL become runner. Because, exactly, only Queen decide your faith. Ofc, if Queen order whole hive to kill itself, you can ahelp it. But this is OOC exception. Choosing caste is Queen's prerogative, not your. Until Queen says: "Choose by yourself". That's alien's fraction rules.
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Post by genjufens » 25 Aug 2015, 19:10

just...wow. Thanks for increasing the shittyness of the communist hive party. Just another suggestion to make it that much more of a lack of any thought or strategy. You might as well just have npcs play the xenos and just have a single person be the queen. I get that what the queen says goes, but if there is no choice, no interactivity. Then it's not a game it's a simulation and I for one want no part in your simulation. -1 times a billion.

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Post by Xxxretroxgears3 » 25 Aug 2015, 21:11

-1 what if you dont want to be a drone its stupid i play the runner caste all the time unless a larva asks what do you want me to be dont make one person pick its nobody's fault if there is 10 runners and a queen

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Post by GingerCultLeader » 25 Aug 2015, 21:16

I like it because the larva can choose their caste that best serves the hive unless the queen says "Be whatever."

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Post by Jeser » 26 Aug 2015, 01:17

People, if you want to choose something, play as marines and ask you to assign on job wanted. But that's not how the hive works. There are too many "silent" larvas choosing caste without asking Queen. You don't understand concept, if you are playing as alien, you are supposed to be just dangerous, not stupid, but very simple animal, all intelligency comes from Queen. That means obeying. If you want to play individually and as YOU want, aliens not what you should choose.
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Post by Adjective » 26 Aug 2015, 01:33

+1 It would at every turn benefit the hive by giving the queen more control. A good Queen would be able to use her resources(players) where needed and provide a more efficient battle force construction. Contradictory however, it would also allow the dead xeno's to further blame the Queen for their loss as they would go "Idiot queen made me go runner when sentinal is life!" ect..

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Post by Megalopeos » 26 Aug 2015, 04:05

Xxxretroxgears3 wrote:-1 what if you dont want to be a drone its stupid i play the runner caste all the time unless a larva asks what do you want me to be dont make one person pick its nobody's fault if there is 10 runners and a queen

Uh... what? I've seen it happen plenty of times where Queen is shouting "more drones" and literally every larva picks runner. If you're in this server to just kill kill kill, then there's a great server called Traitor Deathmatch that might be more to your taste.

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