Alien OOC "Nicknames"

[Megalopeos]

Definitely -1

Xenomorphs exist literally for two reasons and two reasons only, serve the Queen and get hosts. They have no time for vanities such as "nicknames." Major -1.

[andre1999]

Definitely -1

Xenomorphs exist literally for two reasons and two reasons only, serve the Queen and get hosts. They have no time for vanities such as "nicknames." Major -1.

A OOCly name for OOC use, what is so hard to get about that?

[Mycroft Macarthur]

i can see why this would be necessary to help out people who primarily play xenomorph, especially since they will be unknown in the community compared to primarily marine players, but i can see the points of all the people who are -1, it seems it will be necessary to find a way to achieve similar ends (enabling xenos to become better known throughout the community in spite of the way xeno works) without giving the aliens any kind of individuality.

perhaps if some players can reserve a number? (for example, if you were really into halo you could reserve the number 117, so no matter what you would always be drone 117 or hivelord 117 or someshit)

[TopHatPenguin]

perhaps if some players can reserve a number? (for example, if you were really into halo you could reserve the number 117, so no matter what you would always be drone 117 or hivelord 117 or someshit)

If we had this as maybe a side option in setup character?
As in you would open setup character and there you could change the number of your xeno and if it was already taken it would get rejected, much like how a MMO name selection thing works, then again that maybe hard and time consuming to code and actually add but if it goes well i think it could work.

[andre1999]

perhaps if some players can reserve a number? (for example, if you were really into halo you could reserve the number 117, so no matter what you would always be drone 117 or hivelord 117 or someshit)

I can see a quite large issue with that, there is only so many numbers up to 1000, what whould happen when that is reached? And how whould you make sure nobody else ever uses that exact number?

[Megalopeos]

A OOCly name for OOC use, what is so hard to get about that?

So literally something used to metagame with other people? Nice. -50

[Mycroft Macarthur]

lets be serious, the odds of there having been 1000 different xeno players in even the LONGEST rounds is impossibly low, if your number is taken it can always give you the next in line (if there is already a hivelord 117, it makes you be 118, or 119 and so on until it finds a number that isn't picked) aside from which technically we have that same risk with marine names too, whats stopping some dude from showing up with the same name? especially if you use a name from pop culture thats clearly famous enough for someone to remember it but obscure enough that most of the community wont. (fucking everyone here knows gordon freeman i guarantee it, how many people would know who char aznable is?)

[andre1999]

So literally something used to metagame with other people? Nice. -50

So something to make sure people doesn't go unnoticed for playing Xenomorph more than Marine? Nice one.

[TopHatPenguin]

I can see a quite large issue with that, there is only so many numbers up to 1000, what whould happen when that is reached? And how whould you make sure nobody else ever uses that exact number?

Like i have said above use a kind of MMO name system where if that number is taken you can't use it and it will come up with a message saying that.
In regards of the limited numbers you could say that after X amount of days of not playing that number will be freed up for selection, then again we would probably need a list of numbers not taken and etc.

[Mycroft Macarthur]

it seems pretty clear we're not going to get nicknames in the way you envisioned it andre but a reasonable compromise may still be on the table if a solution can be found that all parties can agree to, this thing with the reserved numbers so far is the best we've got.

[Megalopeos]

So something to make sure people doesn't go unnoticed for playing Xenomorph more than Marine? Nice one.

I'm not sure what that sentence meant, but -100.

[andre1999]

lets be serious, the odds of there having been 1000 different xeno players in even the LONGEST rounds is impossibly low, if your number is taken it can always give you the next in line (if there is already a hivelord 117, it makes you be 118, or 119 and so on until it finds a number that isn't picked) aside from which technically we have that same risk with marine names too, whats stopping some dude from showing up with the same name? especially if you use a name from pop culture thats clearly famous enough for someone to remember it but obscure enough that most of the community wont. (fucking everyone here knows gordon freeman i guarantee it, how many people would know who char aznable is?)

You just said "Reserve" the number, that whould mean it's your number, and NO one else can use it.

Marine names have semi-unlimited names, and people doesn't use the same name due to, well, there is ALOT of names, and people try to avoid such things from happening.

And whould it not destroy the point of a reserved number if anyone can use it and you get forced aside?

[MikeBluer]

Like i have said above use a kind of MMO name system where if that number is taken you can't use it and it will come up with a message saying that.
In regards of the limited numbers you could say that after X amount of days of not playing that number will be freed up for selection, then again we would probably need a list of numbers not taken and etc.

+1 This is better than the main idea of andre

[Mycroft Macarthur]

well with marines there can be alot of different things to differentiate someone, even if you both have the same name you can wear different clothes, use different weapons or have different nicknames, aliens dont really have that so if you want to have any kind of identifier for them, until we get custom donation sprites for aliens this is prettymuch the best we can do and if you have two aliens with identical names (or worse, names AND class) in the same game i guarantee it will make the job of the admins harder, you just KNOW that when they realise this one of them will start griefing to get the other one in trouble (at which point it will be impossible for the admins to sort who is who because of how attack logs work)

and why stop at 1000? if you just want a 4 digit number or less then we can go all the way up to 9999 so the odds of finding your own number is abit easier.

its far from a perfect solution and it certainly has its issues but i ask again, if you have a better idea (aside from nicknames, the staff have made their stance on that clear) then let us know so we can at least discuss it.

[andre1999]

well with marines there can be alot of different things to differentiate someone, even if you both have the same name you can wear different clothes, use different weapons or have different nicknames, aliens dont really have that so if you want to have any kind of identifier for them, until we get custom donation sprites for aliens this is prettymuch the best we can do and if you have two aliens with identical names (or worse, names AND class) in the same game i guarantee it will make the job of the admins harder, you just KNOW that when they realise this one of them will start griefing to get the other one in trouble (at which point it will be impossible for the admins to sort who is who because of how attack logs work)

and why stop at 1000? if you just want a 4 digit number or less then we can go all the way up to 9999 so the odds of finding your own number is abit easier.

its far from a perfect solution and it certainly has its issues but i ask again, if you have a better idea (aside from nicknames, the staff have made their stance on that clear) then let us know so we can at least discuss it.

1st off all, they already have that problem with marines, and i have not seen people doing so, also, attack logs lets you TP to the mob who did it, so yeah. (If i remember correctly that is.)

2nd off all, the alien numbers only go to 1000, and has been so since the dawn of time.

And 3rd off all, only better thing i could think of whould be aliens being customizable like marines, however this whould not fit the lore, whould never get accepted, and there is no point in even trying due to, well, what i just stated in this sentence, and the amount of work whould be ludacris...

[Jeser]

I'm okay with aliens OOC "nicknames" ONLY if they are visible only to aliens, so marines won't be able to see them.

[andre1999]

I'm okay with aliens OOC "nicknames" ONLY if they are visible only to aliens, so marines won't be able to see them.

Whould stop most metagaming, and i don't see anything negative to this, although i bet it whould be hard to make.

[speedybst]

I see no issue with this idea - the intended purpose is allow you to see who you are as a xeno at a glance. We take for granted the ability to recognize other as marine, so this is intended to allow you a way to recognize a player as a xeno. As for this:

So literally something used to metagame with other people? Nice. -50

This is no different to marines recognising each other on sight - should we make a system that randomizes name and features each round to end this debilitating metagaming misuse of the system? Really, I fail to see how this would facilitate metagaming, when really, people can just use LOOC to already alert each other In-Game, or use a separate program to talk. I also see no issue with the OOC name being visible to everyone, since the xenos can already do that with any marine they know by name, and really, knowing you're up against a friend/rival makes competitive gameplay that much more enjoyable.

This has my full support, because it allows players who usually play as a xeno and who are largely unrecognized as a marine to apply for applications with a name that we can track through the logs and in rounds to actually see how they are as a player without forcing them to play as a marine. It in no way assists in metagaming actions other than in a way that was already liable to happen from a recognized marine name, and has several benefits for both players and staff members.

+1 from me.

[Meww]

+1, visible only to aliens would be nice. Most of the reasons have been stated, also easier for admins i bet.

[Wickedtemp]

+1
If not a short nickname -which would have to be regulated- then at the very least, being able to reserve a number. However I like the nickname idea better.

[UnknownMurder]

COUGH COUGH...

Aliens doesn't need a nickname. They're just a mindless minions. A good Queen will remember their daughters. Aliens are not people. Aliens are not predators. They don't need a nickname to be labeled or deemed honorable. I don't want people to be playing a Favoritism Game.

COUGH COUGH. Pardon, I'm sick.

[andre1999]

COUGH COUGH...

Aliens doesn't need a nickname. They're just a mindless minions. A good Queen will remember their daughters. Aliens are not people. Aliens are not predators. They don't need a nickname to be labeled or deemed honorable. I don't want people to be playing a Favoritism Game.

COUGH COUGH. Pardon, I'm sick.

UM, look from the other side of the room for a few minutes, and think, think about what people are saying.

[TopHatPenguin]

COUGH COUGH...

Aliens doesn't need a nickname. They're just a mindless minions. A good Queen will remember their daughters. Aliens are not people. Aliens are not predators. They don't need a nickname to be labeled or deemed honorable. I don't want people to be playing a Favoritism Game.

COUGH COUGH. Pardon, I'm sick.

That isn't the point.

The point is that if you are a dedicated alien player and have been for a while now you probably won't be known throughout the community where as most marines are due to having nicknames or names.

If we get the choose a number for your alien system above then the nicknames wont really be a thing they will still be the mindless slaves but at least if they choose a number that specific number could be recognised as a good alien player or a bad one depending on how you play etc.

[UnknownMurder]

Aliens does not need to be known for their actions. No offense, we don't need another model like Wooki. We are simply fine without nicknames.

[TopHatPenguin]

Aliens does not need to be known for their actions. No offense, we don't need another model like Wooki. We are simply fine without nicknames.

It's not for that in anyway at all.
It's so people who want to apply for a predator app or a moderator app can if they mainly only play alien, it's not so people can go "Oh look they are a good alien let's see how they play". Granted that may be a side effect but the main purpose of this from my understanding is for Applications into staff or whitelist areas within the community not for "Hurr Duur i'm a cool alien" and as most -1's to alien players who apply for these things are from "Oh you aren't known throughout the community" well it's a bit hard if there is nothing you can actually attach yourself to as you can only play alien as a random numbered one.

Read any of the above posts to see that the nicknames might not even be nicknames they could just end up being you choose a number and you stick with it, basically like it is now but instead of alien random numbers each time you evolve, with this you would choose a number and you would stick with that number.