Alien OOC "Nicknames"

[andre1999]

It's not for that in anyway at all.
It's so people who want to apply for a predator app or a moderator app can if they mainly only play alien, it's not so people can go "Oh look they are a good alien let's see how they play". Granted that may be a side effect but the main purpose of this from my understanding is for Applications into staff or whitelist areas within the community not for "Hurr Duur i'm a cool alien" and as most -1's to alien players who apply for these things are from "Oh you aren't known throughout the community" well it's a bit hard if there is nothing you can actually attach yourself to as you can only play alien as a random numbered one.

Read any of the above posts to see that the nicknames might not even be nicknames they could just end up being you choose a number and you stick with it, basically like it is now but instead of alien random numbers each time you evolve, with this you would choose a number and you would stick with that number.

This, is exaclty why i came up with this idea to begin with, my OP just said in benefits in a short term: "Making it possible for Xeno players to apply for things"

[Artyom]

All of you say,

"aliens will just use silly names!!!!111one"

And what about the Marines?

It's all the same.

[Artyom]

So literally something used to metagame with other people? Nice. -50

Are you fucking dense?

[Artyom]

COUGH COUGH...

Aliens doesn't need a nickname. They're just a mindless minions. A good Queen will remember their daughters. Aliens are not people. Aliens are not predators. They don't need a nickname to be labeled or deemed honorable. I don't want people to be playing a Favoritism Game.

COUGH COUGH. Pardon, I'm sick.

COUGH COUGH

We literally spammed about how the nicknames would be OOC. Over and over again. Read the thread.

And Marines have literally the same shit, you're saying favoritism isn't within their ranks?

COUGH COUGH

oh and also a good queen can't remember shit if the aliens don't have the same number/name as last time.

[TR-BlackDragon]

Aliens does not need to be known for their actions. No offense, we don't need another model like Wooki. We are simply fine without nicknames.

Dude are you dense? It's for being known in the community. I'm mostly playing as aliens and because of that I'm not really well known in the community except by admins as I tend to ahelp the other aliens who are disobeying the Queens direct orders.

[Feweh]

Aliens does not need to be known for their actions. No offense, we don't need another model like Wooki. We are simply fine without nicknames.

No, we aren't fine.. this is exactly why the suggestion was brought up.


For teamwork and a better understanding of whos playing what class this is needed.

No one wants to play Aliens, a lot of people would rather ghost. Have you seen the amount of people who go SSD? Its massive compared to the amount of Marines. We need a way to promote players to actually play Xenos.

This is a simple and easy suggestion to boost Xeno player activity.

This is a simple thing people, ask yourselves what is more fun, being Runner111 or Runner "nickname".

Sometimes we have to sacrifice bits of lore for mechanics that promote better game-play. If you know me, you'd know I always stand for lore accuracy... but even I see the benefit in this.

[TR-BlackDragon]

No, we aren't fine.. this is exactly why the suggestion was brought up.


For teamwork and a better understanding of whos playing what class this is needed.

No one wants to play Aliens, a lot of people would rather ghost. Have you seen the amount of people who go SSD? Its massive compared to the amount of Marines. We need a way to promote players to actually play Xenos.

This is a simple and easy suggestion to boost Xeno player activity.

This is a simple thing people, ask yourselves what is more fun, being Runner111 or Runner "nickname".

Sometimes we have to sacrifice bits of lore for mechanics that promote better game-play. If you know me, you'd know I always stand for lore accuracy... but even I see the benefit in this.

+10 for this statement

[speedybst]

To put this in perspective, let us say that the xenos had customized names, but the marines were only given a designation like USCM-(AA11), and that was randomized each round, and their appearance was completely generic. We'd have no way to tell each other apart because we're all completely generic and faceless. So, the point of this isn't create special snowflake xenos like Grid, but just to provide a method of saying 'This is me' for an application or for friends. Really, Setting up the unique number would get the job done just as well as a OOC name in the end.

[andre1999]

To put this in perspective, let us say that the xenos had customized names, but the marines were only given a designation like USCM-(AA11), and that was randomized each round, and their appearance was completely generic. We'd have no way to tell each other apart because we're all completely generic and faceless. So, the point of this isn't create special snowflake xenos like Grid, but just to provide a method of saying 'This is me' for an application or for friends. Really, Setting up the unique number would get the job done just as well as a OOC name in the end.

Numbers whould not really do it aswell, sense the alien numbers only go up to 1000, (And has been that way sense the Xenomorphs became a thing in SS13 in general) other than that, you made a really good point which will maybe get it into peoples skulls.

[Edgelord]

If you're attached to another Xeno that isn't the queen you're doing it wrong. The aliens lack lore as they start as larvae, I sympathize with the whole that was me thing, but nicknames take away from the endless numbers of the alien horde.

[TopHatPenguin]

Like i have said above use a kind of MMO name system where if that number is taken you can't use it and it will come up with a message saying that.
In regards of the limited numbers you could say that after X amount of days of not playing that number will be freed up for selection, then again we would probably need a list of numbers not taken and etc.

This basically solves your issue of nicknames, just have static numbers.

[andre1999]

This basically solves your issue of nicknames, just have static numbers.

Well, not to 100%, you whould still need to make a reservation thing, and then you whould have the issue of the X amount of days, whould it not ruin the point of reserving it, if after long enough time, someone else can just take it, cause whould people not think said person is you then? And the Number limit has still not been fixed.

[andre1999]

If you're attached to another Xeno that isn't the queen you're doing it wrong. The aliens lack lore as they start as larvae, I sympathize with the whole that was me thing, but nicknames take away from the endless numbers of the alien horde.

Do people even read the post and replys before replying? And by no way of the imagination are they endless, and they are not really a horde, if anything, it's the Marines that's the horde, they out number them 1 to 4 about all the time.

[TR-BlackDragon]

Take note people. Everyone that states no they shouldn't be named even oocly, are racists against the aliens and will try and shutdown anything that's not pro marine

[andre1999]

Take note people. Everyone that states no they shouldn't be named even oocly, are racists against the aliens and will try and shutdown anything that's not pro marine

I am aware that about 75% of people who play here are Marines who does not want aliens to get anything.

[Jeser]

I don't like at all idea of personalizing aliens. And I'm talking about OOC. But, really, if only aliens will be able to see those nicknames, okay, then. My main point - I'm at all don't want possibility to OOCly know who is playing for both sides. As I see ideal implementation of this: aliens can see each other nicknames, marines can read each other names, aliens and marines can't read names and nicknames of other side. That would be ideal.

[apophis775]

This has been discussed. Is there any more input?

[Toroic]

This has been discussed. Is there any more input?

I think the general consensus is that xeno players would be perfectly happy with a static number.

That would provide xenos the ability to recognize other xeno players without any negative outcomes.

Currently, if you have a hunting partner as a T1, and you get separated an evolve, it's needlessly difficult to find them again, or to recognize players you can trust game to game, a luxury marines always have.

I don't think there are any reasonable objections to a xeno only nickname, either.

For nicknames that marines can see, that may be the easiest implementation, but marines are going to complain it breaks immersion, even though xenos see marine names every game already.

I can't speak for all xeno players, but my personal belief is that having a reliable way for xeno players to recognize each other improves mechanics. If a solution causes marine players to complain about immersion, I'd direct them to actually read marine dossiers before complaining.

I believe improved (aka more fun and satisfying) mechanics are more important than immersion, for the same reason fun is more important than lore. There are definitely times where mechanics and lore can work beautifully together, but when they are opposed lore should lose.

[UnknownMurder]

I can do just static numbers.

[LordLoko]

I prefer having your BYOND account begin show instead of a nickname.

E.g: "Alien Drone (111) ((LordLoko))"

[Wickedtemp]

Numbers, BYOND account, actual names, I'm fine with any and all, though I believe the static number would be best.

EDIT: To clarify, yes, this has many of my upvotes. Everybody knows that can trust certain marines because of their names, they're proven they're good. They know who to trust. But Xenos don't have that. You don't know if your hunting partner is the xeno equivalent of Urist McNewbie or Mr. Badass... The numbers would probably help.

[Jdobbin49]

I think this would be pretty ok, like was said people that go for pred apps cant put a name down if they play xeno, it would have to be moderated very closely and you would have to be more strict on those naming roles than on human naming roles, but i give this a +1, i like the idea and hope it is followed through

[apophis775]

I suppose a possibility, could be that when a xeno evolves to T3 it gains the "pick name" verb for one-time use...

[Wickedtemp]

Hm... That would exclude many players each round because not too many reach T3 each round, and I think Carriers/Hivelords are still T2... So I'd say if you're going to have it so that you need to be evolved to get the 'pick-name' verb, I'd suggest moving it down to T2. More players would actually get to use it, and Carriers/Hivelords would be included. That's if we go that route. There's also the 'static number' idea, if that can be done. It wouldn't need much moderation, if any.

[Jdobbin49]

Instead of a nickname each alien could have a number as we already have, but each player has their own number, it could be put on the character setup screen below marine name