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Post by TortoiseGaming » 30 Nov 2015, 22:56

So I know most servers that are stations have heads of staff such as a head of security. I know we can't have an HoP, that would be a little unlore friendly. But an HoS would be more so, escpecially with having MPs. The HoS could have much more access to the ship, he/she may even be able to contact command with any reports on marines or WY about any survivors. I have played HoS on other servers and found that it works well with other command staff. It would be cool. I don't know how you set it up, but if you could you definatly should add it. Any other heads of staff ideas?
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Post by Azmodan412 » 30 Nov 2015, 22:57

Head of Security IS the CO/XO.
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Post by XenonDragneel » 30 Nov 2015, 23:02

Azmodan412 wrote:Head of Security IS the CO/XO.
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Post by ChickenShizNit8 » 30 Nov 2015, 23:05

CO/XO don't get involved with Marine law though....
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Post by Azmodan412 » 30 Nov 2015, 23:12

Because 75%-95% of ALL Command across all rounds are incompetent or just plain retarded. RARELY you see one enforcing the laws.
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Post by ChickenShizNit8 » 30 Nov 2015, 23:23

Because they are not supposed to....

Command aren't really supposed too even have access to Military Police gear....


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Post by Feweh » 01 Dec 2015, 00:12

I'd be ok with a Lead MP role, it wouldn't be that bad really.

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Post by Edgelord » 01 Dec 2015, 00:31

Make a head MP and take away bridge access from standard MPs
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Post by apophis775 » 01 Dec 2015, 03:03

I'd rather not have a "lead" MP role. I think our current method of "whichever MP is the least shitler is in charge" works.

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Post by Wesmas » 01 Dec 2015, 12:07

The only way that one MP has authority over the others if is command tells them they are in charge of the MP's.
Having a Head MP would be great, until the shit MPs took it and then had authority over the others.
I can see why people suggested this, but it wont stop the bad people from doing bad things. We just need stronger actions against MPs who cant follow the laws and act like a sane human being.
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Post by Azmodan412 » 01 Dec 2015, 12:56

You are assuming MPs are sane.
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Post by Wesmas » 01 Dec 2015, 13:23

We do have some decent MPs. They are far too few though.
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Post by apophis775 » 01 Dec 2015, 16:46

I'm not really convinced, Since the head MP would literally just be "in charge" and have no special abilities or anything, I'm not sure if it's worth going through all the effort of making a new job class, adding a new assignment proc, distributing it into the human-side populater procs..

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Post by monkeysfist101 » 01 Dec 2015, 17:28

-1 for me. Marine crime isn't high enough to require an entire department.
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Re: Security staff

Post by TortoiseGaming » 01 Dec 2015, 18:28

I played mp when I first joined cause that was about all I could do and I'm kinda attached to my lovely job, but I do agree there are some terrible mps. Maybe you could add a head MP when we actually start finding the bad mps or we start to see a rising need. But for now it's okay.
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Post by Jack McIntyre » 01 Dec 2015, 19:24

Yea -1 to that, we just need some better training for the guys who like mp or just the idiots. Most don't know what they are doing because they have never played security before. Saw a mp hitting a marine with a stunbaton wondering why it wasn't stunning them when the thing was off. Soo I think it is just people need to learn the job.

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Post by TopHatPenguin » 02 Dec 2015, 06:20

Just going to nitpick for a moment.
I believe this is missing the suggestion format? (not 100% sure as my phone sometimes decides to play up.)

A head MP wouldn't really be needed considering that most cases an mp deals with are either related to grief or are relatively minor in the grand scheme of things other then that an Mp mostly just fills in any blank spots on the command staff or goes into the mp office and waits until they are called for duty.Unless there were random antags that could pop up while the marines were away I don't really see a "need" for this job to be in.
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Post by UnknownMurder » 02 Dec 2015, 08:12

Mr. Penguin wrote:Just going to nitpick for a moment.
I believe this is missing the suggestion format? (not 100% sure as my phone sometimes decides to play up.)

A head MP wouldn't really be needed considering that most cases an mp deals with are either related to grief or are relatively minor in the grand scheme of things other then that an Mp mostly just fills in any blank spots on the command staff or goes into the mp office and waits until they are called for duty.Unless there were random antags that could pop up while the marines were away I don't really see a "need" for this job to be in.
It IS missing le format.
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Post by apophis775 » 02 Dec 2015, 17:50

I didn't notice.

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