Replace nexus security gear

[RoswellRay]

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary):Pretty simple,replace the gear in the security closet at the nexus with wey-yu kit

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole):Lore accuracy aswell as hopefully a helmet that can resist a hugger attack to increase survivability slightly

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc):What the summary said

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it):

[Seehund]

Doesn't make too much of a lore sense, ask me.

Think about it; the gear there was for Security to handle COLONIST-related problems, especially since there didn't seem to be hostile wildlife prior to the infestation.
There's really no reason for them to be issued expensive Weyland-Yutani gear.

To put it in perspective, imagine any security guard being issued SWAT gear.

[RoswellRay]

Doesn't make too much of a lore sense, ask me.

Think about it; the gear there was for Security to handle COLONIST-related problems, especially since there didn't seem to be hostile wildlife prior to the infestation.
There's really no reason for them to be issued expensive Weyland-Yutani gear.

To put it in perspective, imagine any security guard being issued SWAT gear.

All the corpses up north are in weyland yutani outfists,the locker in nexus has gear labelled nanotrasen. It doesn't really add up,it's a wey yu compound, at the very least it would have the white wey yu jumpers. On top of that they are already issued assault weapons.

[Seehund]

All the corpses up north are in weyland yutani outfists,the locker in nexus has gear labelled nanotrasen. It doesn't really add up,it's a wey yu compound, at the very least it would have the white wey yu jumpers. On top of that they are already issued assault weapons.

The corpses up North are likely from the crashed shuttle, from how I see it. The Wey-Yu jumpsuits are a good point, really.
As for the assault weapons - thing is, they're still viable against HUMANS, which is why they're issued in the armoury; for emergencies. But again, the thing about that particular armor is, it's the specific variant for the ARMED FORCES belonging to Wey-Yu (!=guards), even the practical applications would be different, but let's not delve into fluff, now.

[RoswellRay]

Lore wise form what I've read weyland yutani doesn't have a variation of armour simply for overseeing colonies, their security forces are somewhat standardized.

To quote the wiki "The Weyland-Yutani PMCs were military personnel privately owned and deployed by the Weyland-Yutani Corporation. They were charged with providing security for the company's more secret operations".

As with most PMC's worldwide their bread and butter is protecting assets but that doesn't stop them from using body armour. Remember that weyland yutani is a sinister corporation pretty much down to the bone and this is a high value facility in the ass end of space,I doubt they would majorly skimp on the pmc's they have stationed there because the colony may not be threatened. On top of this remember weyland yutani manufactures it's own gear,so body armour fairly on par with a standard uscm soldier wouldn't be much of an expense compared to the risk of losing men they trained and vetted.

[Seehund]

Lore wise form what I've read weyland yutani doesn't have a variation of armour simply for overseeing colonies, their security forces are somewhat standardized.

To quote the wiki "The Weyland-Yutani PMCs were military personnel privately owned and deployed by the Weyland-Yutani Corporation. They were charged with providing security for the company's more secret operations".

As with most PMC's worldwide their bread and butter is protecting assets but that doesn't stop them from using body armour. Remember that weyland yutani is a sinister corporation pretty much down to the bone and this is a high value facility in the ass end of space,I doubt they would majorly skimp on the pmc's they have stationed there because the colony may not be threatened. On top of this remember weyland yutani manufactures it's own gear,so body armour fairly on par with a standard uscm soldier wouldn't be much of an expense compared to the risk of losing men they trained and vetted.

Very good points, all of them.

For now, I'll remain neutraland defer to the better judgement of others.

[Jack McIntyre]

I will say -1 just due to the fact that if said security did have such armaments and gear to fight the xenos then, why are the marines getting called in if it probably could have been contained by the security forces. If I may also suggest in the movie aliens, the WY colony that the marines were sent to didn't seem to have security forces and if it did, then it wasn't really equipped due to when the marines are going through, they say they see evidence of small arms fire and some sort of explosive charge which was meant more for mining then actually combat. Now I am sure that the colonist wouldn't have access to the same weaponry as the security forces, but if there was a security force with WY equipment you would expect them to find evidence of probably higher calibers and maybe explosives that are actually meant for combat. So not saying it wouldn't be a bad idea, but besides the whole lore thing, apop himself said he wants to make it hard for survivors to survive, it is suppose to be a thing. Thus, if we give survivors weaponry as well that could probably kill off most of the hive at the start, it will probably have to be a no. It is why we have such strict rules for preds as well, for example not going to planet to early and just murderboning the xenos. Have to give both sides a fair and fighting chance.

So as I said good idea mate, but probably going to have to go with no on this one.

[RoswellRay]

It has very little do do with making them much more survivable,the gear is only marginally better than the gear in the locker. I'm not saying give them sniper rifles and b18's it's simply replacing the ourfit in the locker with the wey yu counterpart for accuracy. I don't know why you think this will somehow make them OP as nothign si even being addes ,they alreayd have armour sothis is basically a sprite swap.

As for the lore complaint,having a private sec force doesn't = military not even close. So yes in a pinch they will rely on the actual military.

[Jack McIntyre]

If you wanted to change the security officer outfit to a WY merc one, like the ones on the prison I would fully support that since I am sure that is what they would wear, but I just simply meant that we probably wouldn't put to much heavy ordinance like grenade launchers and such. You get the two assault rifles, if we really wanted to help maybe put a third, or a pistol. All I simply meant, since I know some people who are robust enough to actually kill the hive off with what we already have on the planet for the survivors, but they are really robust. Why I am just saying don't think we want to give them too much stuff to use.

[RoswellRay]

If you wanted to change the security officer outfit to a WY merc one, like the ones on the prison I would fully support that since I am sure that is what they would wear, but I just simply meant that we probably wouldn't put to much heavy ordinance like grenade launchers and such. You get the two assault rifles, if we really wanted to help maybe put a third, or a pistol. All I simply meant, since I know some people who are robust enough to actually kill the hive off with what we already have on the planet for the survivors, but they are really robust. Why I am just saying don't think we want to give them too much stuff to use.

Well,yes that`s pretty much all this thread is about, it just seems off that if you examine the security gear available it`s all labelled nanotrasen.

[Jack McIntyre]

Ooooh well then yea it has my +1 then. Thanks for clarifying there.

[Seehund]

Well,yes that`s pretty much all this thread is about, it just seems off that if you examine the security gear available it`s all labelled nanotrasen.

Ah-ah, so THAT is what this thread is about.

See, there was a fundamental misunderstanding.
Anyhow, if that is the case, I'll swiftly switch to a +1.

[LordLoko]

Your simple description confused everybody.

+1 Change those uniforms to PMC uniforms.

[MauroVega]

while this would be great for inmersion or lore accuracy imagine if sec had a 1 hugger resitant helmet,more survivors making a line to sec,its Inposible for a reason

-1 Helmet
+1 Uniforms of W-Y

[LordLoko]

while this would be great for inmersion or lore accuracy imagine if sec had a 1 hugger resitant helmet,more survivors making a line to sec,its Inposible for a reason

-1 Helmet
+1 Uniforms of W-Y

And maybe add those sweet WY caps and balaclavas?

[WyattH]

-1

There already is a helmet that survivors can wear in the sec locker.

Also the colonists believed this was more of a mining and science colony, not a super sekrit high value W-Y facility. If W-Y was that aware of the xenos there they would have had much more well equipped security forces with applicable armor and weaponry rather than the scant supplies of a standard security detail. Keep in mind the security area of the colony clearly is a low-end sec setup with their armaments and space alotted to them, clearly more for dealing with internal colony disputes than W-Y knowing this would be an anti-alien facility, at least that's the feel I get from the setup of the colony and supplies around.

The lore as I understand it on the planet is the miners disturbed queen/xenos/eggs within the caves by accident and this was not an intentional W-Y experiment, it's just that W-Y being so large and having so much money owns alot of colonies and investments in them.

[Jack McIntyre]

Well they only get one uniform anyway, I don't think they need a helmet or armor, but I mean just changing the jumpsuit from a NT one to a WY one I don't really see a problem with. I mean it is just a uniform that they can pretend to be a security officer of the colony. As I said earlier why I didn't think they should get a large equipment boost, but if they wanted to change the uniform I am fine with that. Just don't change any weaponry or helmets down there.

[Nick123q23]

All for changing the NT shit to the wey-yu equivalents. I don't think this suggestion means to add PMC weapons into the security room, just the uniforms and caps/balaclavas. +1

[Gentlefood]

I find it somewhat funny that everyone is up in arms about the survivors potentially getting more 'hugger protection' when welding masks protect against 2 huggers and there are 10 of them in Engineering Dome if you get the power up which isn't hard.

That being said +1 on changing out the old with the new.

[apophis775]

the W-Y gear, is from PMCs and from the crashed ship (W-Y Scout ship). Most people who work for W-Y just wear whatever clothes they want.

[Gentlefood]

the W-Y gear, is from PMCs and from the crashed ship (W-Y Scout ship). Most people who work for W-Y just wear whatever clothes they want.

This is just to replace the stuff that says Nanotransen with W-Y labeled stuff.

[apophis775]

Oh, that'll probably happen during a future sprite update.

[LordLoko]

Just to change that black sec jumpsuit in the sec locker with the white PMC jumpsuit.

[Stivan34]

while this would be great for inmersion or lore accuracy imagine if sec had a 1 hugger resitant helmet,more survivors making a line to sec,its Inposible for a reason

-1 Helmet
+1 Uniforms of W-Y

There are helmets.

[apophis775]

I'm going to lock this for now, something similar is in the Dev List of things to do.