Let welders be used without eye protection

[Gentlefood]

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary): Title. In lore the welders have eye protection built in. Its even on the model of the welder ingame. (The top rectangle).

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole): Lets survivors not destroy their eyes. Its lore friendly. Lets anyone use a welder in a pinch.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc): Helps save eyes.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it): Code.

[Arachnidnexus]

+1 for lore-friendly welders.

[monkeysfist101]

+1 4 rasins

[quarantinetimer]

+1 are we deleting the welding googles if this gets implemented?

[Pythonjet32]

1+ it's lore and newbie friendly.

[xBoBox3]

Instead of letting plain welders being used without eye protection, we could just add an "emergency welder" in the standard marine gear (everyone gets one in lore, at least if i remember correctly), which doesn't deal eye damage. Normal welding tools (the kind which MTs would use, for example) would still do damage, and just make it so that the vendors on the planet have the emergency welders as well, for survivor's usage.

+1 either way, I'd much rather we had a "marine welder" instead of just changing all welders to not deal damage.

[Wickedtemp]

Honestly, this would make vent crawling Xenos no longer a threat, and survivors (who can already EASILY survive) would no longer be caught if they can just weld all the airlocks shut.

It might be lore-friendly, but that doesn't mean we should have it in-game.

[Wesmas]

Honestly, this would make vent crawling Xenos no longer a threat, and survivors (who can already EASILY survive) would no longer be caught if they can just weld all the airlocks shut.

It might be lore-friendly, but that doesn't mean we should have it in-game.

Agreed. I saw this thread and instantly worried about the game balance. This is basicaly just a buff to survivors, allowing them to weld with no cost.

[forwardslashN]

Neutral.
I would rather these be restricted to engineering, and printable from the autolathe (industrial welder), rather than being a standard welder model.

[Wickedtemp]

Cause you know what else is lore-friendly?

Huggers that kill you if you try to take them off.

Xenos that can 1-shot marines with ease.

Marines being outnumbered 10 to 1 at least.

Nests that are practically impossible to break out of without help.

All of these are lore-friendly, but it'd really fucking suck if they were added. So let's not.

[Gentlefood]

Considering that you can cut the wires on an unpowered door to drop its bolts without the need for insulated gloves I don't really see it as a balance concern. As for vents, that only really applies to a single map, but I wouldn't be opposed to letting xenos have a way to 'unweld' them.

[Arachnidnexus]

If everyone's concern is survivor buffing what about making welders not use eye protection but remove welding masks completely? That way people don't go blind but also don't get a hugger resist?

I'm not a particular fan of the current 'teleport'-style vent crawling anyway because it's hilariously broken in effectiveness, but I wouldn't mind an "unweld" verb for xenos if welders didn't require eye protection.

[ShortTemperedLeprechaun]

It could be like a special welder perhaps, with a lower fuel limit than the standard welder? Enough for a few welds or so?

[Edgelord]

I'm a pretty big fan of engineers having the monopoly on welding. Aside from giving the engineers an important role of area denial, it helps out the xenos by (realistically) limiting this job to 8 people tops.

An emergency welder could be cool, but it'd have to have a very small amount of fuel and take twice as long as a regular welder to work.

[Lostmixup]

I think it'd be alright to remove the eye protection requirement for welders to be used. You could have two kinds of welders, the one that doesn't take eye protection takes longer or something and the other is the one we currently have.

If you don't want that compromise, then I'm all for just changing the current welders to not need eye protection.

[monkeysfist101]

Here's a thought. The survivors could have a full setup that would require a mask and essentially be what we have now. The marines would have the smaller welders that would have less fuel capacity but could be used without a mask.

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[MysteriousSpy]

This is a good idea, but it needs to be balanced aswell, cuz this will ROCK the survivor world, being able to use a welder without risking death through machine hacking? Heck yeah!

+1, but needs balance

[Reznoriam]

I like the idea of the industrial welder having protection. As for the smaller marine hand welder, is it necessary?

[LordLoko]

-1

It would be too easy too weld the vents, nerfing the xeno significantly

[Grypho]

+1

A good idea, and I think welding making you blind after 3 welds is annoying.

[Lostmixup]

-1

It would be too easy too weld the vents, nerfing the xeno significantly

It's already piss easy to do it.

[Shadow]

+1 I'd like this, as long as it had drawbacks. Every buff needs an accompanying nerf, we all know this. (No we don't, but eh)

[Kilm]

+1

I think some suggestions have got out of hand though. I thought the aim of this was to have the Engineering marines have a welder that had shielding built in? No-one else. That certainly makes sense and you're going to have potentially four or more Engineering Marines. Lets make them the only one with welders so they're used and in more demand.

[Jeser]

+1

I think some suggestions have got out of hand though. I thought the aim of this was to have the Engineering marines have a welder that had shielding built in? No-one else. That certainly makes sense and you're going to have potentially four or more Engineering Marines. Lets make them the only one with welders so they're used and in more demand.

Good alternative idea. Right now I, for example, don't use mesons on plnaet, only sometimes on Prison if I need to blow up wall somewhere.

[Hackie-Sama]

Regarding the Survivor idea, you really don't need the protection to survive. I mean, if you really game survivor you can come out with minimal damage and equipment better than most marines. All it's gonna do is be a little shit you don't want to take care of. So, it won't change the gameplay loop very much, just make life easier. +1