Succumbing.

Post by **Eonoc** » 16 Mar 2016, 04:43

+1 I get the removal for folks that were infected, but if I've been slowly dying of IB in some far off corner of the map for whatever reason, please just let me /end/ it.

Jeser · Post by **Jeser** » 16 Mar 2016, 12:30

We need something, this or else anyway. Last round I spent 20 mins in permanent crit without being able to die, because some idiot shot me three times with magnum in chest and by the time I got to Nexus my chest was fucked. So I just logged off.

Infernus · Post by **Infernus** » 16 Mar 2016, 12:51

Reverted due to popular demand.

Infernus · Post by **Infernus** » 17 Mar 2016, 17:18

Reverted AGAIN due to it being ab usable by both sides. Think of something that will work for both of them.

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » 17 Mar 2016, 19:29

Got my legs completely cut off, stuck in a nest for 10 minutes until I eventually burst. There should honestly be a health limit where embryos don't continue to grow because at that point the host is so fucked that the larva is also going to be fucked by relation.

Egorkor · Post by **Egorkor** » 17 Mar 2016, 19:39

the amount of aliens there are at roundstart makes them feel like killing, so the usual infecting I've seen now is hug, slash to crit, drag off. and it's not punished by losing a host to it unless it's an IB case. 'sides, there are cases with the people who have to waste half an hour without medical help or aliens killing them and no chance to ghost cause no cloning cause of this.
wasn't abused either, it was either a marine infected and already in crit, or aliens hurting him bad prior or after infecting, then dragging off.
only thing I see being abused is the inability to succumb, so please, bring it the fuck back since it literally does more harm then good. don't fix what ain't broken, remember?

Rey · Post by **Rey** » 17 Mar 2016, 19:44

Infernus wrote:Reverted AGAIN due to it being ab usable by both sides. Think of something that will work for both of them.

Can you give some description of how is it being abused? I mean, you can only succumb in crit, right?

Egorkor · Post by **Egorkor** » 17 Mar 2016, 20:14

Rey wrote: Can you give some description of how is it being abused? I mean, you can only succumb in crit, right?

look for the bug report mentioning succumbing and larva by vassada, cannot link, typing it up on a phone.

Rey · Post by **Rey** » 17 Mar 2016, 20:56

Egorkor wrote: look for the bug report mentioning succumbing and larva by vassada, cannot link, typing it up on a phone.

Literally happened only once(AFAIK), and is hard to reproduce.

Egorkor · Post by **Egorkor** » 28 Mar 2016, 08:10

bump.

freemysoul · Post by **freemysoul** » 28 Mar 2016, 08:18

I can understand the problem with people succumbing just to troll the Alien, Maybe make it so that a player in critical or impregnated can ghost but by able to return to their body when their cloned?

freemysoul · Post by **freemysoul** » 28 Mar 2016, 11:42

Actually maybe make it that if your impregnated and critical and you succumb, that you automatically burst

Boltersam · Post by **Boltersam** » 28 Mar 2016, 12:24

freemysoul wrote:Actually maybe make it that if your impregnated and critical and you succumb, that you automatically burst

This.

Egorkor · Post by **Egorkor** » 28 Mar 2016, 12:34

this doesn't solve the problem of aliens slashing people up then infecting them, moreso it will encourage such behavior.
I still stand on returning it as it was, if the aliens have a guy in critical nested, then it's their problem and they are the ones that should receive punishment by losing the larva, not the marine player who has to spend quite some time in crit.

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Post by **Jack McIntyre** » 28 Mar 2016, 20:56

Yea please put it back in, I was neutral for it, seeing both sides, but spending a long time in a alien's stomach and not able to succumb when you are in pain crit is just bonkers. Feels like you just cut us off at the knee there.

Mitchs98 · Post by **Mitchs98** » 30 Mar 2016, 13:37

+1. For the love of all that is holy bring Succumb back. Aliens do not deserve hosts if they're going to cut them to crit to abuse the fact marines die hilariously slow on nests and can no longer succumb. Make slashing actually be a VERY bad thing for aliens to do again since it is the equivilant of friendly fire if they cut up lone hosts/nested hosts for no reason other than being lazy. The larva, generally, wouldn't be able to survive if the host was actively dying anyway seeing as it needs the hosts vitals unless it was already close to bursting.

NoShamNoWow · Post by **NoShamNoWow** » 31 Mar 2016, 20:07

Simply 1+. disabling this has really made me lose interest in playing.

sicktrigger · Post by **sicktrigger** » 04 Apr 2016, 23:11

why is succumb not back yet

Infernus wrote:Reverted AGAIN due to it being ab usable by both sides. Think of something that will work for both of them.

what does this even mean? abusable how?

username123 · Post by **username123** » 05 Apr 2016, 01:53

Just remove the stabilizing and healing effect of the nest on marines and we won't need to succumb when a ravager slashes both your legs and crits a marine to nest him/her. You should die if you are bleeding or already on crit while nested, not healed by some magic effect on the nest that not only doesn't make sense, but allows aliens to nearly kill marines to not take care of them while they are nested.

MauroVega · Post by **MauroVega** » 05 Apr 2016, 12:32

123 Nest have no healing effect,its the standard healing when resting and it was already nerfed,the auto healing

username123 · Post by **username123** » 08 Apr 2016, 00:15

MauroVega wrote:123 Nest have no healing effect,its the standard healing when resting and it was already nerfed,the auto healing

It has a healing effect that heals oxy damage, you can test this if you are about to die with the screen white, then an alien nest you and you won't heal a bit, enough to stabilize you.

OatzAndHoes · Post by **OatzAndHoes** » 13 Apr 2016, 19:28

-1

This will lead to a lot less larva being burst in the hive. I like being able to shoot yourself/grenade yourself if you manage to escape a nest, but succumbing will make it way to easy to deny aliens larva.

spheretech · Post by **spheretech** » 13 Apr 2016, 19:33

No succumbing when infected but succumbing while not effected could be ok

NoShamNoWow · Post by **NoShamNoWow** » 13 Apr 2016, 19:53

OatzAndHoes wrote:-1

This will lead to a lot less larva being burst in the hive. I like being able to shoot yourself/grenade yourself if you manage to escape a nest, but succumbing will make it way to easy to deny aliens larva.

Whole point is to WATCH the hosts so they don't escape or try to injure themselves. Really, they deserve to lose hosts when they slash them when they are already nested.
Succumbing while infected shouldn't be disallowed either, This would still affect the whole "Its been 10 minutes and I am still in unconscious crit". Whole point is. Watch. The. Hosts. Sentinels have a role to do and they should do it properly.

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