new queen abilities: penance and excommunication

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new queen abilities: penance and excommunication

Post by Nubs » 23 Apr 2016, 07:02

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary): These suggestions would grant an alien queen two new abilities: penance and excommunication, an ingame IC way to punish those who misbehave as aliens, disobey direct orders etc.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole): lesser workload for admins, less admin helping about aliens not following orders, improved roleplay, queen gets more control.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc): Penance would be used against aliens who have done lesser, but still bad things, such as slashing hosts in nests, maybe ignoring one order etc. The queen selects up to 3 aliens, and penance is applied. Penance lasts 7 mins, and can be applied every 15. Under penance an alien:

Can hear hivemind, but cannot speak in it
Has a 30% higher cost for using their abilities
Does less damage when slashing
Has reduced jelly progress

Excommunication is a harsh punishment, and requires admin approval to be applied. A queen can select any number to be excommunicated, but must do them one at a time, and provide a good reason for each excommunication in a pop-up box, which is sent to admins to approve. It is not applied to the alien(s) until admins approve. Excommunication is permanent unless the queen decides to remove it. Under excommunication a alien:

Cannot speak in or hear hivemind
Cannot use abilities
Has jelly progress halted
Cannot open resin doors
Has greatly reduced plasma and health regen
Can be attacked and even killed by other aliens
Cannot slash any humans or monkeys


Uniquely, excommunication can be used against dead aliens as well. It still requires admin approval. when used on a dead alien, it makes the player wait 10 mins before they can jump into an alien or larvae again

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Re: new queen abilities: penance and excommunication

Post by Boltersam » 23 Apr 2016, 07:23

All my +1's, dude, there have been no ways to punish shitters as an alien before, and usually it's too minor to have an admin handle it.

Make Excommunication an admin ability, too, so that it can be used on Queens if necessary.

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Post by Stivan34 » 23 Apr 2016, 08:41

+1 If the alien with Excommunication punishment has the ability to attack other aliens.
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Re: new queen abilities: penance and excommunication

Post by Infernus » 23 Apr 2016, 08:58

+1

I really like your idea, and you provided a pretty much detailed way on how to implement it.
The only problem I can see is them not listening on purpose to get Excommunicated, so they can fight with other aliens and troll them. (Unless they cannot attack back.)
This could be a good replacement for the rules we have now.
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Re: new queen abilities: penance and excommunication

Post by Jeser » 23 Apr 2016, 09:58

ACtually, it's good. More alien microcontrolling for Queen!
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Re: new queen abilities: penance and excommunication

Post by Logi99 » 23 Apr 2016, 11:11

This isn't so bad. I've played queen for the past times and had to work with such shit aliens. Whenever admins say in OOC "LISTEN TO THE FUCKING QUEEN." they still don't obey. This will be fun.
Also there should be a consequence if you abuse it. Such as if the queen orders you to do something that will break a rule they have no valid reason to penance and excommunicate. Queens should be able to control the hive.
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Re: new queen abilities: penance and excommunication

Post by Aeleto » 23 Apr 2016, 11:24

What is going to stop the Queen from abusing the penance ability?

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Re: new queen abilities: penance and excommunication

Post by LocalizedDownpour » 23 Apr 2016, 11:44

Aeleto wrote:What is going to stop the Queen from abusing the penance ability?
Same thing that keeps marines from preforming surgery, the CO from being on the frontlines, or doctors from having guns. Rules. Seeing as the Queen is under a stricter eye admin wise, it would only take an ahelp to resolve if it's unjust.

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Re: new queen abilities: penance and excommunication

Post by Mitchs98 » 23 Apr 2016, 13:17

+1. I'd consider playing alien more if the dumb aliens could actually be punished beyond getting them a job ban that may or may not be applied.

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Post by MauroVega » 23 Apr 2016, 13:20

Let them pay,in plasma
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Re: new queen abilities: penance and excommunication

Post by Grypho » 23 Apr 2016, 13:27

Maybe even allow Queen to put the worst aliens in sleep with Excommunicate ability, so they can´t even play and just see a black screen and their body. = easier to code than those penalties.

Even with out that, +1

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Re: new queen abilities: penance and excommunication

Post by Joe4444 » 23 Apr 2016, 15:22

+1 I guess? maybe have a cool down on it so the queen can't spam it? the only thing is...its debuffing the xenos and if it applies right away it could get that xeno killed, Maybe have something else happen if its in combat? that's probably hard to code but...it seems fair if they never listend to one order right?

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Re: new queen abilities: penance and excommunication

Post by qDan » 23 Apr 2016, 15:39

Totally +1 just add some diversification, something like 'green', 'yellow' and 'red' cards, so newbies or soloyolling xenos on 2-3 hour of game wont be punished hard while griefers of all kinds will be sent in abyss

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Re: new queen abilities: penance and excommunication

Post by SpanishBirdman » 23 Apr 2016, 16:55

Good stuff, but there certainly have to be strict rules for the queen to prevent abuse.

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Re: new queen abilities: penance and excommunication

Post by apophis775 » 23 Apr 2016, 17:06

Denied.

We are working on a Xeno update already.

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