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Attachments and dispensers overhaul

Post by qDan » 11 May 2016, 16:51

Summary: transfer all combat 'shooting' attachments into armory from RO

Benefits&Details: marines will be able to use different weapons and 'replenish' ammo freely instead of sticking to in-built grenade launchers, also preventing gLaucher's looting from spare rifles and boosting the queue at RO as well. Additional /-/barrel attachments will still be available in RO but w\o combat ones thus helping marines not too waste their common limit on underbarrel attachment changing if they simply want shotgun or flamethrower instead

Also It might be a good idea to transfer bayonets and flashlights (attachment version) as well because its totally common things for absolutely every soldier of every era.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it): simply remove things from RO vendomate (but with possibility to order more via crates) and add specified attachments into armory's dispensers.

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Post by MauroVega » 11 May 2016, 20:33

Balance,full Marines with mag straps,chargers,more FF

Bad idea -1
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Re: Attachments and dispensers overhaul

Post by Yung » 11 May 2016, 21:22

>people still line up at RO for bayonets and flashlights
ohhhhh myyyyy goddddddd
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Re: Attachments and dispensers overhaul

Post by qDan » 12 May 2016, 11:16

MauroVega wrote:Balance,full Marines with mag straps,chargers,more FF

Bad idea -1
Lolwut? SLs and specs the only one who can get chargers which in limited quantity btw and standard marines cant get'em, while free granade lauchers from spare rifles still may be acquired and theres no whine about that way of FF from grenade spam. Anyway how my idea about shooting attachments affect anything else? Please learn to read before comment.
Yung wrote:>people still line up at RO for bayonets and flashlights
ohhhhh myyyyy goddddddd
Bayos still popular because they help to remove resin crap fast and usually the only thing to get for lately joined players while already screwdrived flashlights can speed up preparations due to the fact the only screwdriver available for standart mehrins lie only at briefing and usually some lazy ass taking it with himself or dropping in far halls.
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Post by Desolane900 » 12 May 2016, 11:35

I could get behind this. Making your own bayonets can be a pain in the ass. But why are people still using flashlight attachments when we have an armor light?
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Re: Attachments and dispensers overhaul

Post by qDan » 12 May 2016, 11:40

Desolane900 wrote:I could get behind this. Making your own bayonets can be a pain in the ass. But why are people still using flashlight attachments when we have an armor light?
Basically theres 2 reasons 1) in-built flashlight has shorter range then standart one (if this not changed in last updates), 2) if RO out of dots and maghars its the best option

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Post by Desolane900 » 12 May 2016, 12:11

qDan wrote:Basically theres 2 reasons 1) in-built flashlight has shorter range then standart one (if this not changed in last updates), 2) if RO out of dots and maghars its the best option
Flashlight attachments add nothing statwise though. There's literally no point to putting it on your gun.
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Post by Derpislav » 12 May 2016, 12:18

There's always throwing your gun when you run out of ammo to have it illuminate the area.

If you want to automate vendors, I'd rather have it use the money mechanic already present in the code. Basically: A marine starts with enough money on his bank account to buy two attachments and a laptop. SLs and Specs get one more. Attachment vendors take a sum of money when you swipe your ID.
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Re: Attachments and dispensers overhaul

Post by Yung » 12 May 2016, 15:37

Desolane900 wrote:I could get behind this. Making your own bayonets can be a pain in the ass. But why are people still using flashlight attachments when we have an armor light?
"Making your own bayonets can be a pain in the ass".

I know dude, it's really hard to click a knife while holding coil, huh?
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Re: Attachments and dispensers overhaul

Post by Dyne » 12 May 2016, 16:39

-1. RO lines is the only moment most marines can cooperate and follow semi-military rules.
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Post by Desolane900 » 13 May 2016, 06:18

Yung wrote: "Making your own bayonets can be a pain in the ass".

I know dude, it's really hard to click a knife while holding coil, huh?
Try finding coil with a hundred people online.
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Re: Attachments and dispensers overhaul

Post by Jeser » 13 May 2016, 07:21

Derpislav wrote:There's always throwing your gun when you run out of ammo to have it illuminate the area.

If you want to automate vendors, I'd rather have it use the money mechanic already present in the code. Basically: A marine starts with enough money on his bank account to buy two attachments and a laptop. SLs and Specs get one more. Attachment vendors take a sum of money when you swipe your ID.
I was thinking about suggesting making attachments have a price. We have EFTPOS device for some reason, isn't it?
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Re: Attachments and dispensers overhaul

Post by Dyne » 13 May 2016, 08:15

Jeser wrote: I was thinking about suggesting making attachments have a price. We have EFTPOS device for some reason, isn't it?
Yeah, lets make marines buy guns using their money and turn it all into a merc sim.
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Re: Attachments and dispensers overhaul

Post by SecretStamos (Joshuu) » 13 May 2016, 10:35

-1 from me

The RO line (besides RP of getting equipment issued from a Quartermaster), serves an invisible balance purpose. It gives the aliens some preparation time to set up the battlefield, and the commander time to set up briefing.

On top of this, giving marines unrestricted access to attachments trivializes them a bit.

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Re: Attachments and dispensers overhaul

Post by Yung » 13 May 2016, 13:10

Desolane900 wrote: Try finding coil with a hundred people online.
It's not that hard to ask for some. Don't be shy! MTs are your friends.
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Post by Azmodan412 » 13 May 2016, 13:57

Yung wrote: It's not that hard to ask for some. Don't be shy! MTs are your friends.
When they are not being fucking monkies scurrying around the Maintenance tunnels, hacking into where they shouldn't be for god knows what reason.
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Re: Attachments and dispensers overhaul

Post by Yung » 13 May 2016, 14:28

Azmodan412 wrote: When they are not being fucking monkies scurrying around the Maintenance tunnels, hacking into where they shouldn't be for god knows what reason.
Someone doesn't have any MT friends.
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Post by Azmodan412 » 13 May 2016, 14:31

Yung wrote: Someone doesn't have any MT friends.
I dont... ;~;
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Post by Desolane900 » 13 May 2016, 14:36

Azmodan412 wrote: I dont... ;~;
I don't believe in friends.
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Post by forwardslashN » 15 Jun 2016, 18:45

I don't think this is happening.
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