Chewing on hand in nest

[ShortTemperedLeprechaun]

Bug Description: If you nest a marine, and cuff them fully with resin, they can chew their hand off while they are nested.


Steps to reproduce:
1. Be a nested marine
2. Get cuffed
3. Aim for mouth with harm intent, chew hand off in nest.

[Gentlefood]

Not a bug to my knowledge.

[Rey]

Wait, what? Is there any more cool features like this I should know about? That's brilliant, if you survive that is.
Doesn't sound like a bug to be honest, pretty brutal however.

[ShortTemperedLeprechaun]

My only worry with it as a possible bug, is it is an easy, and unpreventable way, to kill yourself via an infection.

[oprayx73]

yeah that sounds such a specific feature, pretty much sounds like its needed

[Ms.Degrasse]

My only worry with it as a possible bug, is it is an easy, and unpreventable way, to kill yourself via an infection.

He's right on his concern here. - It's a good idea for a coder to see if it's possible.

I was there, as his victim, when another player pulled this trick.

I decided to imitate him and managed to ampute both of Tylor Harkonnen's hands by having him chew on them.

When the first hand came off, the resin cuff also fell to the ground (until here, it's like a clever way for managing to use a single hand for suiciding with a pistol later when unnested.)


But it's really possible to kill yourself by infection, bleeding and/or and brute damage to hands by chewing both of them off? - It's good if you check up on this one, coders...

P.S.: I laughed a lot with this... Never imagined the game had this funny feature. XD

[ShortTemperedLeprechaun]

He's right on his concern here. - It's a good idea for a coder to see if it's possible.

I was there, as his victim, when another player pulled this trick.

I decided to imitate him and managed to ampute both of Tylor Harkonnen's hands by having him chew on them.

When the first hand came off, the resin cuff also fell to the ground (until here, it's like a clever way for managing to use a single hand for suiciding with a pistol later when unnested.)


But it's really possible to kill yourself by infection, bleeding and/or and brute damage to hands by chewing both of them off? - It's good if you check up on this one, coders...

P.S.: I laughed a lot with this... Never imagined the game had this funny feature. XD

Too my knowledge, it's an old baycode feature, I've done it to try to escape the sec team before when I was cuffed.

[forwardslashN]

I didn't know about this. Brutal.

[Ms.Degrasse]

Too my knowledge, it's an old baycode feature, I've done it to try to escape the sec team before when I was cuffed.

Yes. - And it can affect drastically the nesting/resisting mechanic.

One thing? Is that actually, it's interesting for that player who is nested - but is looking for a clever way to kill himself (resisting for being able to pop-out, chew out hand, unnest and shot himself in the mouth with a handgun).

But hosts killing themselves just by an infection/blood loss/brute damage caused solely by chewing hand is really bizarre and don't require a strategy of any sort.

[ShortTemperedLeprechaun]

I mean, i'd be all for letting it stay, but only if it didn't cause an infection death, brute death, or blood loss death, asit's an easy and exploitable way to deny any larva to xenos.

[Rey]

Perhaps make it an action that takes time, and if you are disarmed it resets the timer. I don't see how biting off an arm like so will not give you extreme blood loss/infection.

[Egorkor]

it's and old feature that's been used by people to get out of handcuffs. not a bug, and it does a shitload of damage aside from taking your hand so there's no need to do anything about it imo.

[Boltersam]

Also the hardened resin is covering your hands, so you should need to have to try to chew through the resin first before being able to chew on your hands, if this is kept.

[Egorkor]

Also the hardened resin is covering your hands, so you should need to have to try to chew through the resin first before being able to chew on your hands, if this is kept.

hell, I don't get why you're opposed to this old as hell feature being kept as it is. it drops you into near-paincrit last I checked, it removes your hand rendering you unable to fight, and is generally against the one who's using it, not in favor of the marine.

besides, if you can chew your own hand right clean off, why would you even give a fuck about resin that's covering your elbows?

[ShortTemperedLeprechaun]

Again, I should state, my main concern over this, is it would be an easy, and cheap way for marines to always deny xenos of larva, via causing an infection and bloodloss death on themselves. I'm okay with keeping it, if we can find a way to prevent this from becoming a "lollarvadeny"

[Boltersam]

hell, I don't get why you're opposed to this old as hell feature being kept as it is. it drops you into near-paincrit last I checked, it removes your hand rendering you unable to fight, and is generally against the one who's using it, not in favor of the marine.

besides, if you can chew your own hand right clean off, why would you even give a fuck about resin that's covering your elbows?

I'm opposed to it because if you chew both of your hands off, you're gonna bleed to death. And you can do it even while you're resin handcuffed and nested, so there's no way to prevent it. And, if you're already wounded, you're going to die from the brute damage. It's an unpreventable suicide.

Actually, the resin's covering your hands.

[Egorkor]

whatever, I guess. now that this feature is brought up and is known now, it may be used against the, you know, the aliens that still puppyguard you after resincuffing and all that, I reckon.

[Ms.Degrasse]

One really interesting - and actually logical thing?

Would be turn this into "chewing on the resin cuffs" if your hands are cuffed by aliens...
After all, they are covered in resin.
Those aren't normal handcuffs but a big blob of hardened resin over the hands...

This would make this more of an act for resisting being nested.
Would give the xenos time to counter it if they witness marines doing this thing.
A single xeno may call for reinforcements on nest if he feels he can't deal with them all.
Numerous marines doing it at the same time would - realistically - give them a chance for escaping.
And it wouldn't deny any larva if it fails on the part of a single marine.

I will do a suggestion about it. And some additional rework on nesting mechanics. Would be interesting...

[Boltersam]

One really interesting - and actually logical thing?

Would be turn this into "chewing on the resin cuffs" if your hands are cuffed by aliens...
After all, they are covered in resin.
Those aren't normal handcuffs but a big blob of hardened resin over the hands...

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I SUGGESTED EARLIER IN THE THREAD

Great minds, my friend, great minds think alike.

[Rey]

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I SUGGESTED EARLIER IN THE THREAD

Great minds, my friend, great minds think alike.

...and fools seldom differ.

Jokes aside that sounds like a great idea, it would be neat to be able to to chew those cuffs off before you get out of the nest, allowing you to use the guns or whatever else you have already. I think if you've got a knife/welder in hand, cutting the leftover legcuffs should be instant, or at least much faster.

[ShortTemperedLeprechaun]

If we're eating/ chewing through an unknown alien substance, I'd expect a decent amount of toxin damage

[Boltersam]

If we're eating/ chewing through an unknown alien substance, I'd expect a decent amount of toxin damage

Let's not, because then it'll help you kill yourself through that damage. And I hardly expect the xenomorphs to be coating their hosts in dangerous substances, that would be detrimental to the hive.

[Ms.Degrasse]

It took a long chewing time after resisting the nesting, but?
Eventually her right hand fell off...
...She popped out of the nest...
...And planted a C4 on herself with her left hand. (I even took out her armour, for her to completely gib. LOL!)

[forwardslashN]

We've tweaked the damage. While it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to chew your hands off in a nest, it's a non issue now.