Rename 'Bridge' to 'CIC'.

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Rename 'Bridge' to 'CIC'.

Post by Seehund » 05 Jul 2016, 12:11

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary):
See title. Rename the Bridge to CIC.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole):
Military hard-ons all around?
There are no hard benefits but a persistent sense of self-satisfaction.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc):
Specifically, the bridge is generally the area where:
  • The Commander of the vessel resides
    The vessel is controlled
One of those is true, yes, but true + false = false.
Let's see this rough definition;
The primary mission of CIC is to provide the organized collection, processing, display, competent evaluation, and rapid dissemination of pertinent tactical information and intelligence to command and control stations.
What we have on the Sulaco is closer to a proper CIC (which, if you haven't googled it yet, stands for Combat Information Center), and should be called such, just for the sake of MUH REALISM.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it):
A simple change of name (area, doors, etc.) should do it.
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Re: Rename 'Bridge' to 'CIC'.

Post by Jen_Llama » 05 Jul 2016, 12:51

+1 for naval accuracy.
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Re: Rename 'Bridge' to 'CIC'.

Post by SpecialAgentOrange » 05 Jul 2016, 13:06

Probably going to be denied for the same reason corpsman was denied.

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Re: Rename 'Bridge' to 'CIC'.

Post by SecretStamos (Joshuu) » 05 Jul 2016, 15:18

My concern is that "CIC" is likely to complicate the game for new players. The bridge is a term that directly transfers over from vanilla. People don't have a hard time figuring out what it means upon hearing it for the first time

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Re: Rename 'Bridge' to 'CIC'.

Post by Seehund » 05 Jul 2016, 15:23

I understand your concern - however, the suggestion is mostly a nitpick regarding the proper area name. I'm not saying we should go around forcing people to call it 'CIC' - everybody is free to call the area whatever they want, or are used to.
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Re: Rename 'Bridge' to 'CIC'.

Post by quarantinetimer » 05 Jul 2016, 19:20

I used to rename it to the CIC if I ever had to go in there as the CE, and no one seemed to mind. The term "CIC" has already become common knowledge anyway, as well as most rudimentary modern naval tactics. Anyone who has played any video game of the extremely popular naval strategy/operational/tactical genre OR watched any film/tv series involving space combat will know it. Using induction, we can reason that as everyone in this community is bound to have access to a computer, a large majority of it will also have access to the aforementioned recreation activities.

So, the deciding factor really shifts back to "how cool is it". And no one's forcing anyone to call it anything. Perhaps this will be one of those things included in the "list of misc. projects" if it gets through the gauntlet.

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Re: Rename 'Bridge' to 'CIC'.

Post by Ordukai » 05 Jul 2016, 23:17

Have you ever heard "Captain, you're needed in the 'CIC'," in any spaceship related media ever?
Imagine if this were navally accurate:
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There'd probably be at least three kinds of hats being worn there. Or something.

Look, I don't know, but what I do know is I've never heard the bridge of a starship referred to as the "Combat Information Center", and it certainly can't be called the "Operations Room" (OR) for surgery reasons.

I think it's fine the way it is. Who knows, in the grim dark future maybe it'll end up being called the bridge anyways.
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Re: Rename 'Bridge' to 'CIC'.

Post by Seehund » 06 Jul 2016, 00:30

Ordukai wrote:Have you ever heard "Captain, you're needed in the 'CIC'," in any spaceship related media ever?
Yep, in Battlestar Galactica, where this room is clearly referred to as a Combat Information Center.

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Furthermore, the CIC was INVENTED in a spaceship-related media;
The concept of a "Grand Fleet Operations" was used for the first time in Gray Lensman, by E.E. 'Doc' Smith.

Also, Star Trek is, indeed, navally accurate, at least in one aspect - the CIC on real life navy vessels was designed using Matt Jeffries' design.
Retroactive accuracy is the best accuracy.

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Ordukai wrote: Look, I don't know, but what I do know is I've never heard the bridge of a starship referred to as the "Combat Information Center"
That's because the bridge of a starship is not the "Combat Information Center".
The bridge is, - by definition - where the vessel is steered from.
The CIC /may/ contain the bridge, but not the other way around.
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Re: Rename 'Bridge' to 'CIC'.

Post by Ordukai » 06 Jul 2016, 01:18

I stand corrected.

I knew I shouldn't have blindly asserted my position towards someone who actually cares about the subject matter :s

I still think it's fine remaining as "The Bridge", though. "CIC" might be good for High RP.
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Re: Rename 'Bridge' to 'CIC'.

Post by Seehund » 06 Jul 2016, 01:44

That's fairer. I can see where you're coming from. I'll always advocate High RP, personally, so this really is just my opinion on the matter.
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Re: Rename 'Bridge' to 'CIC'.

Post by TopHatPenguin » 03 Apr 2017, 00:50

Could be a nice change to see in game for some good ol'immersion.

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Re: Rename 'Bridge' to 'CIC'.

Post by Snypehunter007 » 11 May 2017, 17:31

Implemented with the Almayer.
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