Do Not Apply New System to SADAR

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Re: Do Not Apply New System to SADAR

Post by Egorkor » 11 Aug 2016, 17:40

so basically, instead of being unable to use the spec shit, read SADAR, we're gonna have people miss the shots at pointblank range or explode the rocket in their face just because someone can't wait to see it happen? what the fuck are people playing it, clowns? we HONK now?
I've seen a lot of people use spec gear, read SADAR, hell this entire post is gonna be about SADAR, I couldn't care less about anything else specs have because I don't use it. so I've seen them use as standards, medics, SLs, other fucking specs that are supposed to be trained to use a different weapon system and they apparently have no ide ahow to use another one? none of them got in trouble, I've had a staff member who wanted to trade their SADAR for my rifle, and I was a fucking STANDARD. last time I recall someone got in trouble for using spec gear as a nonspec is when they took off their ID to loot it and broke the no looting IDs rule, so let's not say here people get blown the fuck out for that.
now, the specs, read fucking SADAR, have just been fucked with by Abby, and have just been unfucked by Noize, and fucked with because of the code leak again, and now you want to fuck with it even further for a shady prospect of "balancing the game", so basically for no clear reason? the hell do you mean balancing the game, you mean taking out the only weapon that can counter elite hunters an hour thirty minutes in that wipe out squads and make it already very hard for the marines to kill them, let alone recover and mount an offensive and win the game, or elite spitters that stunlock you, but we've been through the spitter nerfs already. you're gonna say that elites and ancients are supposed to be a gamechanger, but that doesn't mean they should be nigh-invincible, especially t2s. and even if you kill one, another one will take his place. if you kill a spec it's a gg, my dear fool, you ain't pulling out a second coin out your ass after 20-30 minutes of evolving from the young hunter. or are you gonna say the game should be balanced toward the aliens? well it fucking should, good point, but a good guy here also said that the problems start to arise when the devs take it too far with it, which in our case, I believe, is true.

tldr? don't fix what ain't broken, jesus christ. because it ain't broken, one bit.

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Re: Do Not Apply New System to SADAR

Post by Feweh » 11 Aug 2016, 17:45

Egorkor wrote:so basically, instead of being unable to use the spec shit, read SADAR, we're gonna have people miss the shots at pointblank range or explode the rocket in their face just because someone can't wait to see it happen? what the fuck are people playing it, clowns? we HONK now?
I've seen a lot of people use spec gear, read SADAR, hell this entire post is gonna be about SADAR, I couldn't care less about anything else specs have because I don't use it. so I've seen them use as standards, medics, SLs, other fucking specs that are supposed to be trained to use a different weapon system and they apparently have no ide ahow to use another one? none of them got in trouble, I've had a staff member who wanted to trade their SADAR for my rifle, and I was a fucking STANDARD. last time I recall someone got in trouble for using spec gear as a nonspec is when they took off their ID to loot it and broke the no looting IDs rule, so let's not say here people get blown the fuck out for that.
now, the specs, read fucking SADAR, have just been fucked with by Abby, and have just been unfucked by Noize, and fucked with because of the code leak again, and now you want to fuck with it even further for a shady prospect of "balancing the game", so basically for no clear reason? the hell do you mean balancing the game, you mean taking out the only weapon that can counter elite hunters an hour thirty minutes in that wipe out squads and make it already very hard for the marines to kill them, let alone recover and mount an offensive and win the game, or elite spitters that stunlock you, but we've been through the spitter nerfs already. you're gonna say that elites and ancients are supposed to be a gamechanger, but that doesn't mean they should be nigh-invincible, especially t2s. and even if you kill one, another one will take his place. if you kill a spec it's a gg, my dear fool, you ain't pulling out a second coin out your ass after 20-30 minutes of evolving from the young hunter. or are you gonna say the game should be balanced toward the aliens? well it fucking should, good point, but a good guy here also said that the problems start to arise when the devs take it too far with it, which in our case, I believe, is true.

tldr? don't fix what ain't broken, jesus christ. because it ain't broken, one bit.
We've already discussed the best course for all of this as a Team so will be moving forward with the idea and mechanics Rahl mentioned.
This is for balance reasons and to softly support our current rules in-place.

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Re: Do Not Apply New System to SADAR

Post by KingKire » 11 Aug 2016, 18:26

-1. Im gonna say i would be behind locking the Sadar behind I.D requirments. Its my opinion that if SADARS are locked to only trained personnel, SADARS could receive a corresponding buff in exchange, such as maybe allowing squad leaders use the specialists weapons as well to take over a deceased squad member.
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Re: Do Not Apply New System to SADAR

Post by Sarah_U. » 12 Aug 2016, 07:21

I'm personally for a more cannon marine team with EVERYONE being competent at clicking a trigger.
I'm neutral on this since I'm alright with the idea of a standard being dumb af at using a large multi-purpose rocket launcher with tech attached to it...

Either way, proves to be an upgrade to the current system in some ways and relax the admin workload.
CM was obviously inspired by Starcraft: Ghost opening. At least when marines takes too long to deploy.
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Re: Do Not Apply New System to SADAR

Post by forwardslashN » 30 Aug 2016, 13:19

The SADAR is already the most often used specialist weapon, and the weapon that is the current meta favorite. I'm going to deny this simply because there is no reason not to uniformly apply restrictions to all specialist weapons other than the SADAR; and it's powerful enough to be a game changer already.
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