Literally delete SADAR.

[TeknoKot]

Get two crushers, SADAR is useless now. Even one is enough.

[Clarkeh]

Skipping most of the salt here. Only thing the SADAR user needs is the running debuff which smartgun has.

[Boltersam]

Ammo for it is rare. If you miss, that's one of the most valuable pieces of the marine arsenal, poof, gone.

At an earlier point in time, I would agree with removing it. However, due to the introduction of the Upgrade system and overall raise in power for the Aliens, the SADAR has become essential, not overkill.

-1.

[Warnipple]

SADAR is the scariest thing to face as a xeno's player.

I like that.

[completelynewguy]

Good joke man.

[TheSpoonyCroy]

You're right, deleting it would be a poor way of handling it, but at least it brought people here to discuss it now, didn't it?
....Calm down on the hyperbole.

What are you talking about? This has been discussed several times, and I for one hate the SADAR meta but just starting a post blatantly saying "DELETE SADAR" does nothing, and you might complain about Joe "offering nothing to this discussion" yet your post achieves the same, you even said it would poorly handle this issue yet you still post it. Honestly in favor of debuffing sadar/ empowering other spec choices since right now you get yelled at if you don't go SADAR, which is fucking stupid. It should be a choice, not follow a path and win kind of deal. Honestly reason why I hate higher levels of play in anything since it just becomes number crunching and manipulating the game in your favor, metas do not encourage thinking out of the box and video games should be about that, especially an asymmetrical pvp game.

[ParadoxalObserver]

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary): Literally delete it.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole): You won't have marines and specialists going from near maximum health, skipping crit, and then dying cause some red dude charges at me with his 100% knockdown, and uses his incredibly no-risk head deccap tail.

Details: It'd work by literally deleting the RAVAGER.

Implementation: See above.

Jokes aside. Xenos can easily 1 Hit KO the humans... a specialist is essentially the equivalent of a T3 alien on the human side so the issue of the SADAR is...? Just focus on getting the SADAR marine like you would with any specialist. Hell, sacrifice yourself for the hive as a runner or hunter and try to jump infront of him to get him to accidentally fire a rocket at point blank. Or wait until mature and again, do a kamikazi headchop or handchop of the SADAR specialist.

Marines are the weaker of the two teams so Aliens really have little to complain about when they can be far more annoying if they know what they're doing.

[Renomaki]

SADARS are much more difficult than you think, having used one myself.

For one, once you load a rocket in, you can't change it out. So if you load an HE and then a bunch of crushers come at you, tough, you gotta waste a shot in order to load AP.

And speaking of, you don't get a lot of AP either. You get a handful of AP, HE, and Phor, and that is your lot. You can order more, but only in assorted bunches, meaning you are only going to get like, 2-3 AP rockets, and the others are HE and Phor, which just aren't as good against aliens compared to AP.

And then there is the fact of aiming it. One bad click and a marine could end up getting blown to giblets. Shooting it is a lot more stressful than shooting a normal rifle.

I could go on and on, but most others already stated what I probably already stated myself.

[ParadoxSpace]

Didn't we trade the SADAR for a new map awhile ago?

[Jroinc1]

Sadars are evil, vicious things that I want to see gone due to the ONE-SHOT effect they have...
but in fairness to marines, I can't support removing it without an alternative in place...
-1, sadly.

[Egorkor]

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rocketeers and I among them send you our regards
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now if you wanna be serious, people have said it all above. so nah.

[apophis775]

Badoodled...

[RavingManiac]

I understand that the SADAR is intended to be a high-risk, high-reward weapon, but the reward does seem far too high right now. None of the other weapons available to specialists can really compare.

With aliens being balanced to have an edge against marines in general, standard marines end up being completely dependent on the specialist when fighting against high-level aliens. Entire rounds practically hinge on a few specialists with SADARs.

It's probably for the best to nerf the SADAR to the point that the other specialist weapons can compete against it. Assuming it can be meaningfully nerfed without becoming outright useless.

[JohnKilla56]

or according the that logic, buff the others! which is the better option.

[ZDashe]

When I first saw this thread, I thought it was posted out of salt, like all the previous SADAR threads before this..

My advice to you OP, is to try playing more rounds, both Marine and Xenos and see for yourself. It's pretty obvious you're playing as a Xeno main.

-1 cause of all the reasons other people have stated above.

[forwardslashN]

We're not deleting the SADAR, so this is denied.