Cyborgs, or Androids?

[ShadowDeath6]

As you all may know, Positronic brains (AKA Posibren) exist aboard the Sulaco now. I like that.
However, it has come to my attention that cyborgs are AWFUL against aliens.

Like, really, really bad. Armed with nothing but a small arsenal consisting of at best, a welding tool, or at worst, a fire extinguisher, cyborgs can't take or dish out much damage to our Xenomorphic friends.

Maybe as a buff or something, make gamma modules more readily available to researchers? I doubt that cyborgs running around with pew-pew lasers is going to ruin the aliens, but it'd be a nice buff to add some firepower to borgs.

[Rahlzel]

Considering aliens take x2 damage from fire weapons, I disagree.

Borgs are much tougher to take down, too. They can't get knocked down aside from a Warrior/Runner tackle, and they don't drop their weapons like humans do.

On top of the HIT and mechs made by a Roboticist, I think borgs are fine as they are in a support capacity - nothing more.

[ShadowDeath6]

Considering aliens take x2 damage from fire weapons, I disagree.

Borgs are much tougher to take down, too. They can't get knocked down aside from a Warrior/Runner tackle, and they don't drop their weapons like humans do.

On top of the HIT and mechs made by a Roboticist, I think borgs are fine as they are in a support capacity - nothing more.

It's pretty difficult to do damage as a cyborg, though, and considering that they take like 20% damage from alien slashes, combined with the gunshots that they'll inevitably get hit with, on top of the fact that almost nobody has a welder present, and they don't get passive heals like Marines do, they'll go down pretty easily if more than one alien gangs on them. In my opionion, cyborgs are way too frail to be viable.
Also, on the mech thing, I'm not too sure how many mechs a researcher can make with the limited amount of Plasteel that they start with. I don't actively play engineer, so I don't know if there's plasteel aboard the Sulaco anywhere else, but that's the only place that I could find any as a Researcher with its job access.

[UnknownMurder]

That's not the purpose of the cyborgs/androids in the game...

Second, no polls. This is not Democracy. This is Developer's choice. Absolute Dictactorship.

[Allan1234]

That's not the purpose of the cyborgs/androids in the game...

Second, no polls. This is not Democracy. This is Developer's choice. Absolute Dictactorship.

da comrade

[razerwing]

It's pretty difficult to do damage as a cyborg, though, and considering that they take like 20% damage from alien slashes, combined with the gunshots that they'll inevitably get hit with, on top of the fact that almost nobody has a welder present, and they don't get passive heals like Marines do, they'll go down pretty easily if more than one alien gangs on them. In my opionion, cyborgs are way too frail to be viable.
Also, on the mech thing, I'm not too sure how many mechs a researcher can make with the limited amount of Plasteel that they start with. I don't actively play engineer, so I don't know if there's plasteel aboard the Sulaco anywhere else, but that's the only place that I could find any as a Researcher with its job access.

Just a few problems with this little post here. The first thing marked in red. There are people called Engineers, who, by default, have welders on them. Pretty much at all times too. They should ICly know how to fix a few dents and any burn damage a cyborg might have simply because they are engineers. And believe it or not, they aren't always busy building walls, digging ditches, and the like. Try asking one to repair your bot.

The second thing in red. If more than one alien gangs up on it? Technically, an android/cyborg/robot should never be wandering around by itself. Ever. Yes, it's a mechanical brain that just so happens to think for itself. On the same line of logic, no it would not wander around aimlessly by itself. You are on a research station that went dark, or you are on the Sulaco during a time when it is under attack. No one, and no thing should be off in anything less than a team of two.

Now, about the idea itself, Weyland Yutani often produced Synthetics. No, they were not combat capable. At least not legally. These Synthetics served as a heavy support role, handling things like heavier loads, communications, and even medical procedures. Considering the fact that most people seem to play this server for the combat side of things, having a Synthetic role that IS NOT SUPPOSED TO SERVE A COMBAT ROLE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE kind of goes against things, no? What I hope to be getting at here is simple. There should be no reason to have a Cyborg made, and there should really be no reason to have a Posi-brain in the first place. Cyborgs make very bad combat buddies, and they make even worse walls. You'd be better off strapping lasers to Ripleys.

[coroneljones]

One,borgs are SUPPORT types,mostly for the sulaco
Second,Aliens shouldnt attack borgs,unless it attacks the alien,or blocks its path for too long

[Void00]

Second,Aliens shouldnt attack borgs,unless it attacks the alien,or blocks its path for too long

We both know , that since it's not anymore stated in the rules , Aliens attack borgs on sight.

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Now, about the idea itself, Weyland Yutani often produced Synthetics. No, they were not combat capable. At least not legally. These Synthetics served as a heavy support role, handling things like heavier loads, communications, and even medical procedures. Considering the fact that most people seem to play this server for the combat side of things, having a Synthetic role that IS NOT SUPPOSED TO SERVE A COMBAT ROLE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE kind of goes against things, no? What I hope to be getting at here is simple. There should be no reason to have a Cyborg made, and there should really be no reason to have a Posi-brain in the first place. Cyborgs make very bad combat buddies, and they make even worse walls. You'd be better off strapping lasers to Ripleys.

About the first thing.
Aliens Should thereoreticallyignore borgs , unless attacked.

And Wey-Yu amply used Combat-Androids whit basic AI , I have no idea were you got that information from.

[coroneljones]

Wey-Yu simply overrides the basic "Dont Harm Humans/Lifeforms" Thing that prevents basic androids from attacking and possibly make them sturdier/Armed,atleast in the Working Joe Category

[Void00]

Wey-Yu simply overrides the basic "Dont Harm Humans/Lifeforms" Thing that prevents basic androids from attacking and possibly make them sturdier/Armed,atleast in the Working Joe Category

The working-joe's are not a Wey-Yu product.

Combat android's

Combat Androids, also known asCombat Synthetics, are specially armored and hardenedsyntheticsconstructed specifically for combat purposes. Although the equipping of androids with weapons or uninhibited combat abilities was prohibited by the Geneva Convention,^[1]combat models have been widely employed by theWeyland-Yutani Corporation, who often used illegally manufactured units for security at critical Weyland-Yutani installations. Relaxing of regulations later also led to the use of Combat Androids by theUnited States Colonial Marine Corps.

[UnknownMurder]

I don't want to see synthetic fighting aliens. Something good is going to be added.

[coroneljones]

The working-joe's are not a Wey-Yu product.

Combat android's

I know,but if i remember,they are copied/Using Wey Yu Protocols at the time of your arrival

[razerwing]

About the first thing.
Aliens Should thereoreticallyignore borgs , unless attacked.

And Wey-Yu amply used Combat-Androids whit basic AI , I have no idea were you got that information from.

I'm well aware they amply used Combat Androids. They were a pain in the ass to kill on Nightmare in the AvP games. However, they were nowhere near legal. And I don't think they'd find their way onto a Colonial Marines vessel, considering that those guys actually belong to the military, and are not Wey-Yu's private property.

That would be the Wey-Yu PMC's.

[Void00]

I'm well aware they amply used Combat Androids. They were a pain in the ass to kill on Nightmare in the AvP games. However, they were nowhere near legal. And I don't think they'd find their way onto a Colonial Marines vessel, considering that those guys actually belong to the military, and are not Wey-Yu's private property.

That would be the Wey-Yu PMC's.

Combat Androids, also known asCombat Synthetics, are specially armored and hardenedsyntheticsconstructed specifically for combat purposes. Although the equipping of androids with weapons or uninhibited combat abilities was prohibited by the Geneva Convention,^[1]combat models have been widely employed by theWeyland-Yutani Corporation, who often used illegally manufactured units for security at critical Weyland-Yutani installations. Relaxing of regulations later also led to the use of Combat Androids by theUnited States Colonial Marine Corps.

I Already quoted that before , directly from the wiki E_E

I dont know if working jacks are derivative from the Wey-yu androids , i aint played much the new alien.

[razerwing]

Herp. If I quoted that other thing then I'm sorry. Also seemed to have missed the last part. Curse you grey text. I'm getting most of my knowledge about this kind of stuff from the AvP Xbox 360 edition. If the Combat Synthetics were eventually made legal, it was long after first contact with out lovely Aliens.

Very sorry about not reading all the way through though. Trying to get this damned picture finished.

[apophis775]

Denied, considering, Borgs will be removed when we transfer to new bay.