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Clarifying mother announcements

Post by Jaketeaking » 27 Sep 2016, 11:48

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary): the mother announcements, which now appear every 30 minutes, saying how many xenos left, give an exact number on ship, and an estimate on the ground. for some reason, people seem to think the second number is solid, and send many marines to their deaths, where as I have experienced it can be off by as much as 5. my idea is to change the wording, to better reflect that this is an estimate, not an exact number
Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it):
simply change the wording
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Re: Clarifying mother announcements

Post by coroneljones » 27 Sep 2016, 11:57

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If the marines think this is an exact number they will actually stop turtling and fight once again
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Re: Clarifying mother announcements

Post by Mephiliso » 27 Sep 2016, 12:16

I don't quite understand, Jones. Isn't the point to make Marines stop turtling? I don't see how this is a bad idea.

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Post by coroneljones » 27 Sep 2016, 12:18

Mephiliso wrote:I don't quite understand, Jones. Isn't the point to make Marines stop turtling? I don't see how this is a bad idea.
While a clarfication would be nice, people would take the wording and go "IT MIGHT, be 5..or it MIGHT BE 12, lets wait"

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Re: Clarifying mother announcements

Post by Mephiliso » 27 Sep 2016, 12:24

Ah, I see what you mean. To be honest I think the M.O.T.H.E.R. announcements are alright where they're at right now, though there's always room for improvement.

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Re: Clarifying mother announcements

Post by moff_lockwood » 27 Sep 2016, 14:16

Mother already says "approximately." Marines might reasonably confuse that for being more accurate than it is, so I think it's fine. The bridge staff should realize the error margin and plan accordingly, since they are familiar with mother and realize the terrain makes it hard for an exact count. Mother should be underestimating the aliens though, so never less xeno's than reported for the reason of avoiding marines being afraid to attack. So if mother says 5, there are definitely at least 5, but there might be more (up to as many as like five more).

A percentage method might be better, with a min/max error range (as the possible random error, there should be a chance for it to be accurate). So say it can always be off by 2, but could be off by as much as maybe 5-7 depending on population. At low pop, having 10 when mother said 5 would really end badly for the marines, but having 7 when she said 5 would be less certain death.

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Re: Clarifying mother announcements

Post by Snypehunter007 » 23 Nov 2016, 21:00

The scans are the ground are SUPPOSED to be an estimate. This is unlikely to change.

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Re: Clarifying mother announcements

Post by Doc » 28 Nov 2016, 01:41

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There's no real reason for it needing to be exact. Dense foliage and the fast-moving nature of xenomorphs provide IC reasoning, and OOCly, marines don't really need laser-precise knowledge of alien strength. It's supposed to be an amorphous battle.

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Re: Clarifying mother announcements

Post by Polkjm » 29 Nov 2016, 10:46

I think it's fine as it is, -1

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Re: Clarifying mother announcements

Post by Joe4444 » 29 Nov 2016, 11:06

if people read it...they'd find out it says the mother announcement is UNCLEAR and NEEDS BETTER WORDING not THAT IT SHOULD GIVE EXACT NUMBERING or that IT NEEDS TO BE LASER PERCISE.

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Re: Clarifying mother announcements

Post by Polkjm » 29 Nov 2016, 11:07

I've read the post, I still think it's fine

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Re: Clarifying mother announcements

Post by forwardslashN » 29 Nov 2016, 12:47

Yeah, I think this is resolved. I've actually rewritten the original warning a couple of times, and I don't believe it needs to change. If people don't know what approximately means, I don't really think that's a problem from a developer standpoint.
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