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Spitter Detonates Fuel Tanks

Post by Desolane900 » 15 Oct 2016, 11:12

Bug Description: Spitter spit blows up fuel tanks.


Steps to reproduce:
1. Spit at fuel tank a few times.
2. It explodes.
3. Read above.
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Re: Spitter Detonates Fuel Tanks

Post by Eenkogneeto » 15 Oct 2016, 11:14

Uh, This isn't a bug. at all.
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Post by Simo94 » 15 Oct 2016, 11:17

thats intended i think, spitters can melt stuff from afar like tables barricades walls tanks etc, but the diffrence between that and the normal acid is the ranged spit acts as a bullet, for example it melt a wall to a grider then to metal, and blows tanks instead of instant melt
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Re: Spitter Detonates Fuel Tanks

Post by rev_benji » 15 Oct 2016, 11:42

I died pls nerf

edit:rather, I got wounded please nerf

I find it slightly amusing seeing this thread after patching up your injuries from the spitter explosion
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Post by Renomaki » 15 Oct 2016, 11:51

I think this only works with acid spit, since stun spit doesn't have melting power.

The acid causes a chain reaction with the fuel, making it explode horribly... Even if it isn't realistic, it is hilarious to blow up marines with it.. But that is only if marines stood near them, which isn't very common.
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Post by Simo94 » 15 Oct 2016, 11:56

actually marines sometimes cheesed xenos by using it as cover and slowly pushing it towards them to explode aoe stun xenos, mostly in hangar
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Post by Eenkogneeto » 15 Oct 2016, 12:04

You can shoot them to explode them so why cant ayys?
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Post by Desolane900 » 15 Oct 2016, 12:08

Suroruro wrote:You can shoot them to explode them so why cant ayys?
Because I talked to a mentor after it happened and apparently it's powergaming when xenos do it because they're not supposed to be able to.
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Re: Spitter Detonates Fuel Tanks

Post by Eenkogneeto » 15 Oct 2016, 12:13

Desolane900 wrote:
Because I talked to a mentor after it happened and apparently it's powergaming when xenos do it because they're not supposed to be able to.
I strongly disagree with that mentor and will continue to 1v1 PMCs because they tried to push a welding tank into me as prae.
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Post by TheSpoonyCroy » 15 Oct 2016, 13:08

I would think Context is a very crucial in this case, Deso.... Fact is if the marines are using the tank as cover (which is idiotic is so many ways), sure xenos can spit at them but xenos shouldn't be outright targeting these things

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Post by forwardslashN » 15 Oct 2016, 21:56

Unsure on this one. If there's no reasonable way the fuel tanks would actually ignite, then probably a bug. But I'm not a chemist.
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Post by Snypehunter007 » 18 Oct 2016, 16:22

I think acid + highly combustible fuel = explosion. So, just my opinion on this matter but I will leave this one up to the dev team.
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Post by NoahKirchner » 18 Oct 2016, 17:24

Snypehunter007 wrote:I think acid + highly combustible fuel = explosion. So, just my opinion on this matter but I will leave this one up to the dev team.
Well.... sort of. It would depend on both the welding fuel and the acid, if there was something external to ignite the welding fuel sure, but to my understanding acid only creates heat in excess when mixed with water. Please correct me if I'm wrong but to my understanding no matter how strong the acid is it WON'T ignite every kind of flammable liquid, but it might ignite depending on the type of welding fuel used (oxy-acetelyne which to my understanding wouldn't ignite) and less on the fact that it's a super strong acid.

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Post by Snypehunter007 » 18 Oct 2016, 17:40

Oxy-acetelyne is HIGHLY explosive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiVp7koqLzE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iam27Mh1zu4

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Re: Spitter Detonates Fuel Tanks

Post by Casany » 18 Oct 2016, 18:14

I was said mentor and yes, what the xeno did was powergaming from what I HEARD. Thought it was a bug at the time
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Post by NoahKirchner » 18 Oct 2016, 18:57

Snypehunter007 wrote:Oxy-acetelyne is HIGHLY explosive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiVp7koqLzE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iam27Mh1zu4

Don't fuck with welding fuel kids, I did some welding in school. That shits dangerous.
Yes, I know that it's highly explosive, but would increasing the concentration of hydrogen ions make it explode (what acids do iirc)? I mean if there's oxygen in it, the increase in hydrogen could potentially start to form water molecules which the acid could have an exothermic reaction with and explode, but would that happen is my question.
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Post by Jroinc1 » 18 Oct 2016, 19:08

Different tack-Why would SHOOTING it cause it to explode as opposed to acid?
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Post by rev_benji » 18 Oct 2016, 19:10

You are arguing about the realism of acid causing a fuel tank explosion? Shooting bullets at a fuel tank to cause an explosion isn't realistic in the first place, its action movie bullshit. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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Post by zskninoh » 18 Oct 2016, 21:09

rev_benji wrote:You are arguing about the realism of acid causing a fuel tank explosion? Shooting bullets at a fuel tank to cause an explosion isn't realistic in the first place, its action movie bullshit. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
While that stands true with fuels such as propane and sorts, the cans in CM are full of welding fuel which has different chemical properties than other less volatile fuels.
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Post by rev_benji » 18 Oct 2016, 21:21

zskninoh wrote:the cans in CM are full of welding fuel
Which is...? The vids of oxy-acetylene explosions that were posted weren't just being shot. The only acetylene shooting vids I could find involved a fire source next to the cannister.

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Post by zskninoh » 19 Oct 2016, 16:43

rev_benji wrote: Which is...? The vids of oxy-acetylene explosions that were posted weren't just being shot. The only acetylene shooting vids I could find involved a fire source next to the cannister.
One cannot and should not assume that the fuel being utilized in CM is an Oxygen-Acetylene gas. It could be any number of other factual and/or fictional mixtures.
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Post by Jroinc1 » 19 Oct 2016, 17:42

zskninoh wrote: One cannot and should not assume that the fuel being utilized in CM is an Oxygen-Acetylene gas. It could be any number of other factual and/or fictional mixtures.
K. One that explodes when shot OR spit. There, done, as real-world properties would cause real-world fuels to not detonate in either case.
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Post by forwardslashN » 12 Nov 2016, 10:30

I'm leaving this as it is, then.
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