BIG RED TEST 22/10/2016 BUGS/SUGGESTIONS

[Feweh]

Any outstanding issues or EASY suggestions post here for our first live test.

[Nick123q23]

Needs signs with directions to places, arrows, etc.
Maybe map signs too, give an overlook of the entire installation.

[DeadLantern]

Need to make a new gas mask or make the gas mask stronger since it falls off when someone face hugs you and you die from the CO2 outside.

[Artouris]

A quick change would be perhaps make it less red. (This is a bit more of a personal choice, but its TOO red)


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fix some Emergency lockers and signs


Perhaps make the intercomm/communication sign smaller. Its a great sprite, but it doesn't convey specifically important information with that massive size. As in its a great map detail but too big for what its attempting to do. (the other signs tend to be ok because theres less of them. Another suggestion is perhaps incorporate these elsewhere, like the sulaco itself.)


Fix the turfs.

Fix LZ 1 so the turfs don't disappear because of the ras landing.



oh and perhaps fix the border of the rocks? It takes the color of the turf so its a bit weird.


Dont know if its intentional but weeds grow on water.

[Sarah_U.]

Atmo major.
Or in short: Any form of atmospheric damage should be prevented on big red in a way or another. The map is too big and contains cannisters which creates VAST FIELDS OF HEATED FIRE due to the turfs it uses.
Aliens gotta contain fires without being able to know where is what and what is where.

Basically what I'm saying is, make all cannisters unbreakable including their pipes... Or something.

[DeadLantern]

Atmo major.

Just out the molten rocks deeper into the rocks

[LordLoko]

Loved how complex and confusing it was.

We need a map please.

Some things I think should be added:

• An armory, even if empty, on the security area, along with locker rooms and whatnot.
• Expand the cantina/bar area to look like a mix between a bar and a cantina. Now it looks weird
• PUT THE DROPOD IN ANOTHER AREA OUTSIDE - The objective of having two ships it's not because of transporting more troops, but because marines can choose an alternative landing site, maybe place the POD outside?
• When examining the "showcase", it will always say it's a cyborg bolted on the ground, even if some kind of machine
• Maybe only in big red maps, gas masks spawn in the lockers? Like how we have special cloathing on ice colony

[Sarah_U.]

Make the phoron fire we got an actual atmospheric event.
Make it so that some areas in the map generates gas, not necessarely flammable or dangerous, but just there to intoxicate marines and/or stop xenos.
When it occurs, lock down all external hatches and pass a warning that it's happening. Hatches being invulnerable and unmeltable off-course.

[SecretStamos (Joshuu)]

The rush of air knocked down my squad, and the fire engulfed them. I managed to escape, and stumbled into the bio-dome.

Only to run into a hivelord.

[SecretStamos (Joshuu)]

We do have some floor tiles under the doors that need to be replaced here.

[Doc]

Please place gas masks in all ready-room lockers, and the vendors, much like the thermal coifs are placed on the Ice Colony map so marines aren't looting every O2 storage and emergency fire closet on the ship before deployment.

[Artouris]

sometimes exploding walls does this.



that or its like that already and should probably be fixed.



borked poster

[Recounted]

Feels like there can be major atmos issues at the LZ 2 area whenever spitters melt the wall

[Mook476]

The lag was really the only issue for me

[InterroLouis]

I imagine the lag might have had less to do with the map and more to do with the high server population.

[Feweh]

PAI's need to be removed.
Phoron canisters east of hydroponics near the ray gun thing need to be removed. (atmos issues)

[Gentlefood]

The emergency authentication device description talks about Nanotransen. In the crashed ship.

Xenos can melt into LZ 1 through the blast doors, unsure if intentional. Additionally the excess of windows and meltable locations causes fun atmos lag issues.

[Surrealistik]

Lag is horrible.

One sided atmospheric hazards that kill only the Marines + gas masks which protect them from it that are removed by combat hugging = huge Xeno advantage.

Surface areas of the planet are largely barren without interesting features.

In general the buildings and map favour the Xenos greatly; easy to get lots of recon via Xenovision without taking risks, and countless ways to flank (wouldn't be so bad if Marines could build reinforced walls with Plassteel but they can't). Meanwhile there's loads of very narrow areas.

[Nick123q23]

I like the color scheme. Red makes good for the motherland.
Also,

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[Monoo]

Need to make a new gas mask or make the gas mask stronger since it falls off when someone face hugs you and you die from the CO2 outside.

Disclaimer: Have not played Big Red yet.

Wouldn't it be possible to have the huggers punch through the mask so that it keeps it on the face, but allows them to infect the host?

I'm wondering if that would be possible to code into the hugger behavior to prevent everyone and their brother dying of suffocation during hugger combat.

[Sarah_U.]

PAI's need to be removed.
Phoron canisters east of hydroponics near the ray gun thing need to be removed. (atmos issues)

I'm personally fine with pAIs. There's like 1-2 and I thought they were EXTREMELY NICE to have as I first-hand tested the new features and whatnot.
They're vulnerable to Xenos, can't translate and generally only serve as RP interactions and general minor assistance. CL could even somehow get an objective about retrieving the pAI device as it would be a costly piece of hardware.

All in all, I believe I would even double that reply with a suggestion as to make the translation feature work with IBs (Not xenos) as to make negotiations possible between the various human factions.

[Feweh]

I'm personally fine with pAIs. There's like 1-2 and I thought they were EXTREMELY NICE to have as I first-hand tested the new features and whatnot.
They're vulnerable to Xenos, can't translate and generally only serve as RP interactions and general minor assistance. CL could even somehow get an objective about retrieving the pAI device as it would be a costly piece of hardware.

All in all, I believe I would even double that reply with a suggestion as to make the translation feature work with IBs (Not xenos) as to make negotiations possible between the various human factions.

We use have to have them but removed them awhile back.

[Sarah_U.]

We use have to have them but removed them awhile back.

I know, but I believe that my experience with the pAI in the test round was sufficient to say that they are currently balanced and would not impact the game in any negative way.
If anything, they would even boost the variety and give some slightly needed change and flavour to the server when Big Red is in play. Not asking for their return, just that this one is kept so that the item can be worked on, improved and potentially simply give opportunities to expand on that.

So yea, just asking that the pAI stay, or that they make a return under certain scenarios as they don,t overlly break anything currently. (Humanoid robots with personality > pAI in compexity, pAI can be counted as a prototype if anything)

[Eenkogneeto]

Two Mr.Wriggles is a unacceptable immersion breaking issue that MUST be fixxed.
Also consider removing the PMC gear from the various dead guards, maybe use old sec gear from standard SS13? Iunno. But their gear is better than marines unless i'm wrong, so you can grab the spec gloves and polished shoes and be a cool dude.
Slime cores are incredibly likely to need to be removed so that they dont have to be melted every round, someone who knows what they are doing (such as myself for example) can do some massive bullshit with them easily enough.
Remove any and all coins from the map due to how CM handles the specialist vender.

I would suggest some-kind of paths between buildings to help get bearings, like how LV has the dirt roads.

[Bigchilly]

Lag is bad, it was extremely hard doing anything, picking up stuff, dragging it around. Also needless to say the map feels too big, and there are some random stuff that doesn't really have a purpose. Ex. Ladders take people over to the caves in the northeast, the weird biodome thing north of the southern compound area, etc. Also it would be nice if the survivors were ACTUAL pmc's (not all of them) with their proper guns and what not. Perhaps showing that W-Y was attempting to control the situation, but didn't inform USCM. I dunno, just food for thought.