Unsticking-Resticking Rule Addition

[razerwing]

Suggestion Title: Add Unsticking-Resticking to the list of things that aliens SHOULD NOT DO.

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary): Alien Queen decided to make her nest in the AI core. We had her pinned, but we made a mistake and charged the AI core. Our entire thing ends up being nested, hugged, and doomed to die. However, the Queen decides it would be okay to unstick every marine that was struggling after tackling them and restick them to the nest, effectively resetting their struggle timers. I asked (alright, told. It's frustrating) the alien queen twice over LOOC to stop. Did it anyways. Figured maybe the message didn't get across so I shot her/him and Mod PM telling her to stop it and got "It's not against the rules" and "No Admin had ever stopped us before".

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole):
Marine players would probably get a little less frustrated, considering that all in all, Aliens DO NOT need to do this to keep marines in the nest. To be honest, it's a low, dirty trick that frustrates the hell out of me. I can't speak for others, but I'm sure at least a few people share the sentiment.
Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc):
It's real simple. Put this into the Rules section and people will know right off the bat not to do it. And it would stop people who's sole purpose is to frustrate other people from citing the lack of that rule as justification as to why they can do it.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it):
Just slide it into the rule section, even though now that I think about it that would fall under the purview of...

RULE ZERO

[UnknownMurder]

It already counts as Rule Zero, yet I have not yet received recent ahelps about the related situation.

[MrJJJ]

*1000000 adminhelps appear, saying how fucking frustrating it is* i seen people just raging it in ic, no idea why they did not adminhelped it, but i seen a lot of people roar in IC to aliens a lot, and aliens don't understand what they saying anyway.

[xomega000x]

I had this happen to me twice, the first time I didn't know It wasn't a rule so I let It go, the second I asked the aliens nicely in LOOC and they stopped,

So I managed to get up and shoot a few xeno scum, then I once again got up and tried to grab my gun to suicide, but I didn't have time to pull the trigger.

r.i.p felix vernaut, sweet prinse of Alpha Medic.

[apophis775]

I'm on the fence about this.

Partly because, it is a SUPER DOUCHY thing to do, but also because, if there is an alien who is available enough to do that, you probably wouldn't be escaping from the nest anyway.

[MrGabol100]

No ahelps? I have TWO, reports about this crap, people who do this just get rule zero and fuck its mouth.

[razerwing]

I'm on the fence about this.

Partly because, it is a SUPER DOUCHY thing to do, but also because, if there is an alien who is available enough to do that, you probably wouldn't be escaping from the nest anyway.

One thing really bothers me about this reply here... What I got from this is that you're on the fence of this "SUPER DOUCHEY" tactic because you think that if someone IS doing it, escape is useless anyways? Seems like an awful reason for allowing something like that to happen. People get frustrated at this. It's cheap, it takes away even the HOPE of escape (even if it is pointless, we humans like our hope), and honestly it feels like a big middle-finger from a species that already wins so many matches.

If you won't make it an actual rule, at least specify that it DOES fall under Rule Zero, so we can have something to back us up when it happens.

[chiefexecutive]

I completely agree with you. Aliens, by doing that are abusing game mechanics in order to avoid doing it the proper way(Tackling) Since tackling has a chance to fail it's much harder to tackle 6 marines in nest then it is to unstick then re stick. It shouldn't be that easy t restrain 6 marines to their nest. They got to do it the proper and fair way: Tackling them.

[UnknownMurder]

Or... The aliens should NOT be standing by the humans in the nest unless invading Sulaco, thus allowing to give marines time to resist.

[SecretStamos (Joshuu)]

This really bothered me one round. I was a survivor, and I got in a fight with an alien. I practically killed it with a crowbar, but I hit a wire on the floor, shocked myself, and got captured. The alien sat around me the entire time sticking and unsticking myself and I felt absolutely powerless.

I probably got reset upwards of 35 times. It's enormously frustrating and a really shitty thing to do.

[UnknownMurder]

....I just came up with idea.... You need time to put the marines down... For example

Troll Alien starts to put marine onto the nest........
Troll Alien puts the marine onto the nest.....

Allowing marines to be able to resist, instead of.

Troll Aliens puts the marine onto the nest....
Repeat.

[apophis775]

One thing really bothers me about this reply here... What I got from this is that you're on the fence of this "SUPER DOUCHEY" tactic because you think that if someone IS doing it, escape is useless anyways? Seems like an awful reason for allowing something like that to happen. People get frustrated at this. It's cheap, it takes away even the HOPE of escape (even if it is pointless, we humans like our hope), and honestly it feels like a big middle-finger from a species that already wins so many matches.

If you won't make it an actual rule, at least specify that it DOES fall under Rule Zero, so we can have something to back us up when it happens.

Let me clarify, I'm on the fence, if it needs to fall under Rule 0, or get it's own rule.

[apophis775]

BOOM solution:

Knives are needed to unstick people from nests, UNLESS they resist out.

What do you guys think?

[Octagon]

Sureh. Sounds kuul

[UnknownMurder]

Yeah, my idea sounds kuul.

[CampinKiller]

BOOM solution:

Knives are needed to unstick people from nests, UNLESS they resist out.

What do you guys think?

I see a problem with that though. Say you nested someone quickly close to combat so you didn't have to drag them all the way off. Now you're losing, or they need to be moved into the central location. How do you do that without dying or letting them escape?

[SecretStamos (Joshuu)]

BOOM solution:

Knives are needed to unstick people from nests, UNLESS they resist out.

What do you guys think?

I'm fine with that so long as the Marines can use other tools as well. They use a hand-welder in the games to cut marines free from resin.

[LordLoko]

BOOM solution:

Knives are needed to unstick people from nests, UNLESS they resist out.

What do you guys think?

Resin is something that is very hard to remove. Even in the movies we see that hosts stay well glued on it.
Make it aliens unable to unglue people and marines can remove only with knifes unless they resist it.

[apophis775]

Confirmed, added to rules.