Vocabulary for Aliens...

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Suggestion Title: Aliens Vocabulary.

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary): Basically, a RP factor making them not understand the places and objects on the station.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole): First of all, Metagaming will finally really be enforced, and this will add some sort of RP to the whole Hive-Mind conversation, as Aliens will not be allowed to say "Escape","Singularity" or "Engineering" etc,etc.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc): Well the Aliens will be punished now If they dare to say "Arrivals" or just go for the Singularity/Engineering at the start of the round. Like I said, RP for the aliens will be slightly advanced in vocabulary.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it): Possibly turn this Into a zero rule, or simply a rule... But also enforce It ICly If people don't browse the forum.

[Also, I'm not supporting the Marines, because I know there's a lot of idiotic Marines going "werz alien at111!11" when they just join the server.]

[Rahlzel]

This is a whole new level of strict RP that I am far from comfortable with.

Hivemind is meant to be a mixture of thoughts and feelings translated into something humans can understand, so when an alien says "shuttle", that's the end result of the translation. This makes it perfectly fine for an alien to talk the way humans talk (within the confines of the rules), and when some aliens choose to instead say "metal bird", that's OK, too.

[Abydos]

I think it's silly in my opinion. You're basically limiting the aliens and making it entirely unorganised.

So if this is put in, it simply means that an alien is not allowed AT ALL to say where they are or where people are. So when a new larva that spawns in at the prison wings says "Where is everyone?" no alien is allowed to say "We're at Virology" or "We're at Xenobiology", ect, ect.

It's entirely silly. It makes aliens way too unorganised if they aren't allowed to say where they are, where marines are or such.

[UnknownMurder]

I support the limit knowledge of aliens.

+1

[coroneljones]

Some aliens come up with words for things,like pew pew sticks instead of guns
Going -1 on this since hivemind is just translated alien words/thoughs

[CampinKiller]

I like the overall idea of it, but not on this level. There's really no other way to concisely describe where you are getting shot at, or where help is needed, other than to say the name of the area. And while, if not being shot at, an alien wants to describe Virology as a "place with little animals in a cell," then sure, but I don't think it's practical to enforce.

In other words: Small stuff like "metal bird, plastic sticks that spit metal, fire-spitting stick" sure. Requiring people to not say "Virology, Brig, Bar" not practical to enforce

Plus, as CJ said, hivemind is just translated thoughts

[Abydos]

Most aliens already describe guns as the "shooting sticks" and the dropships as "Metal birds". But to describe Virology as "Place with little animals in a cell" is extremely difficult. Mainly because, the animals/furballs (Monkeys that some aliens call them) would already be infected and removed, and some could easily confuse it with Xenobiology.

Or if the main hive is in someplace like the Brig, or the AI core, what are they meant to say to describe it without confusing anyone? The whole "Metal bird, shooting sticks" is okay since most people do it anyway. But demanding that ALL aliens don't say any locations at all like "Xenobiology, Virology, Security, Arrivals" and all is plain silly. It creates disorder and confuses people.

"Where is everyone?"
"We are at Virology"
"I'll come around then."

"Where is everyone?"
"We are in a place with cages."
"Huh?"
"It has animals in it."
"Um.."

Plus, how would we discribe the areas if marines are knocking on the door?

[apophis775]

No, and here's why:

Hivemind is telepathy, not speech, as such, all the aliens immediately understand it. So, you don't really need to say "Metal Birds" you can call them shuttles, because you wouldn't be "saying" that as an alien, you'd be thinking where the marines are, and the other aliens would immediatly understand that, but since we don't have telepathy IRL, we have to do the closest we can do.

So, If you want to say things like Metal Bird or things like that, feel free, but people who don't choose to do that, will never be punished for breaking RP, because like I said, the actual telepathy would be telling hivemind everything exactly as you saw it, so there would also be a 100% understandingt between aliens, so, it's IC for players to make sure that understanding passes to other aliens through hivemind,

That might be a bit confusing but basically:

Aliens would 100% instantly understand anything another alien communicated through hivemind
As such, since it's not speech, you can speak however you want, because again, If an alien saw a gun and thought, this is painful and shoots things at us, it would use hivemind to communicate that those items are bad, whereas, a player can say "gun" because it communicates the same thing.

[UnknownMurder]

Any further comments? Apophis775 wrapped it up.

[Nalsur]

As much as I'd LOVE to see human lexicon erased from hive mind. It simply is not an option. It will only harm the game-flow if we force aliens to write prolonged alienated descriptions rather than calling things what they are. There are how ever exceptions that I would LOVE TO SEE Eg: Aliens being restricted to use "Human" as a description of a specific type of host unless by some RP means humans managed to introduce themselves as such. Hosts is a description good enough with a few after-words to make it more clear "Armed Hosts" "Furry Hosts" you get the idea (hopefully) right?

[apophis775]

Resolved.