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B18 can lift!

Post by Abbysynth » 22 Nov 2016, 09:46

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary): Allow a specialist wearing the B18 Experimental Armor to pick up and carry UA-571-C Sentry Turrets. This takes up both hand slots and only allows them a movement rate of 1 tile per 3ish seconds, including turning left or right (much like a mech turning). The sentry must be powered down to be picked up, but can be re-activated in hand by the specialist. When carried it is also locked to forward-firing position. If the specialist is knocked down for any reason, the sentry falls over on the ground as if smacked down.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole): B18s and sentries are both mediocre. Combine them together and you get something great! It would be pretty neat to see the B18 + sentry combo acting as a mobile rallying point; it would still be vulnerable to flank and rear attacks, still vulnerable to spit and knockdowns.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it): Add a drag-to-sprite proc for the turret; if the turret is off and unanchored, if the target is wearing a B18 armor, then put it in hands. Add a new sprite for carrying turret, add a second 'wielded' dummy item in hand.

Implementing the actual turret firing is slightly more complicated -- effectively the turret's not on a turf, but on a person, so the scanning for targets code or firing the gun would need to also scan for a holder's turf, rather than just its own turf (ie. a location of a location).

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Post by Renomaki » 22 Nov 2016, 09:51

The only question is.. How would that even work?

Would the guy just lift the sentry over his head and waddle around while it shoots stuff? Can you imagine how awkward that would be to do that?

We all need to find a way to upgrade and update the B18, but I don't think this is a logical way to do it, not because it is bad persay, but because realistically, it would be really silly.
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Post by Abbysynth » 22 Nov 2016, 09:56

Renomaki wrote:The only question is.. How would that even work?

Would the guy just lift the sentry over his head and waddle around while it shoots stuff? Can you imagine how awkward that would be to do that?

We all need to find a way to upgrade and update the B18, but I don't think this is a logical way to do it, not because it is bad persay, but because realistically, it would be really silly.
Sentries are not that big, and not that wide. A b18 armor spec wears VERY big, VERY reinforced armor, they simply cradle it in their arms and walk around with it facing in the direction they want to kill.

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Re: B18 can lift!

Post by Renomaki » 22 Nov 2016, 10:36

Abbysynth wrote:Sentries are not that big, and not that wide. A b18 armor spec wears VERY big, VERY reinforced armor, they simply cradle it in their arms and walk around with it facing in the direction they want to kill.

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Wouldn't you need to take them off their bipod to make it work though?

It would be very cumbersome hauling a WHOLE sentry, you'd have take the main gun off the bipod. But since sentries don't work unless they are fully put together, that wouldn't be a good idea. Thus they'd have to carry it in one piece, which in real life would be very awkward looking.

Take TF2 for instance. When the engineer picks up his sentry, he doesn't just pick the whole darn thing up and carry it around Legend of Zelda style, he packs it up and moves it. Otherwise, hauling an unpacked sentry would be cumbersome.

Lets not get into the safety issues of holding a live sentry in your arms.
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Post by YungCuz » 22 Nov 2016, 16:23

So basically a heavy but with a autoturret.
While this for B18 and maybe could make it cooler to use i can't really see this being very...practical in a sense.
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Re: B18 can lift!

Post by JanMuf » 22 Nov 2016, 17:29

-1, you've just described the smartgun.

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Post by Jroinc1 » 22 Nov 2016, 18:26

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Post by Surrealistik » 22 Nov 2016, 19:42

-1 Pretty ridiculous and silly.

B18 impregnated with synthmuscle so you can drag/grab/wrestle xenos and punch/throw them across the map would be pretty ballin' though and not ridiculous and/or silly at all
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Re: B18 can lift!

Post by Polkjm » 23 Nov 2016, 00:24

B18 becoming an actual robust melee spec would be fucking glorious

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Post by Derpislav » 23 Nov 2016, 02:19

This... This is actually what smartgun should be like when on automatic aiming mode.
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Re: B18 can lift!

Post by Heckenshutze » 23 Nov 2016, 14:16

Surrealistik wrote: B18 impregnated with synthmuscle so you can drag/grab/wrestle xenos and punch/throw them across the map would be pretty ballin' though and not ridiculous and/or silly at all
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Post by forwardslashN » 23 Nov 2016, 19:20

Taking aside that a regular marine can carry all the turrets parts in a box, in one hand, this doesn't sound very realistic or gameplay friendly. B18 will likely have more to do in the future, but it's not power armor. Denied.
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