perma ban appeal

1234brendan · Post by **1234brendan** » 21 Sep 2017, 15:30

Your Byond ID:1234brendan

Character Name:either brayden jones or bernhard durand

Type Of Ban (Job-ban, Timed Ban, Permaban): permanent

Admin who banned you (if known):" host "

Total Ban Duration: perma

Remaining Duration: perma

What other servers do you play on?just paradise

Are you now or have you been banned on any of them?yes. i have previous bans on ftl, paradise, yog, citadel, and hippie.

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned): banned by host-12*31*OCT16-griefing-does not expire

Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable):viewtopic.php?f=87&t=9755&p=102326#p102326 viewtopic.php?f=87&t=10347&p=109241#p109241 viewtopic.php?f=87&t=10807&p=114265#p114265 viewtopic.php?f=87&t=11114&p=117751#p117751 viewtopic.php?f=87&t=11698&p=124486#p124486
viewtopic.php?f=87&t=12478&p=135243#p135243 viewtopic.php?f=87&t=13982&p=150693#p150693
Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc):I am here once again to appeal for perma ban. this time i made sure to include all previous threads and servers i received some sort of ban on. although the ban did happen a while ago im not going to get into the cliche of " well surely I've matured over this long period of time ". I personally think though that i am fit to be let back into the server. I have learned from my mistakes and have not been banned or warned on other servers as of recent. I understand what i did was wrong and if i could play again I would adhere to all the rules. Also i still believe that if I was unbanned, a ban to heads and squad leaders would be more than fair. I understand that I didn't have a good track record on the server even before i was perma banned, and i've made a whole lot of appeals on this website. However despite this, I think i've learned and I could be let back into the server without causing any trouble. thats all.

slc97 · Post by **slc97** » 21 Sep 2017, 15:50

You were denied last time for getting more permas on other servers. Have you gotten any of those bans lifted?

1234brendan · Post by **1234brendan** » 21 Sep 2017, 16:05

because i dont desire to play on those servers in general anymore, i have not appealed for them.

Post by **Feweh** » 21 Sep 2017, 17:32

Re: perma ban appeal
Post by Feweh » Fri May 05, 2017 11:18 am
If youre denied again, dont bother making another appeal.

This was two appeals ago.

1234brendan · Post by **1234brendan** » 22 Sep 2017, 09:30

i understand what you said but in the context of the replies i gave I explained how if i was just appealing every 30 days then i really shouldn't be appealing at all. But im trying to appeal like when I feel like i should be let back on the server, not just every 30 days

Post by **apophis775** » 03 Oct 2017, 17:21

What has changed since your last appeal?

Why do you think you deserve to be let back on?

1234brendan · Post by **1234brendan** » 06 Oct 2017, 17:59

when i made my last appeal i had been playing on other servers and not getting a very good track record in between appeals. Within the past month I haven't done anything to get an admin to even warn me. Since the last appeal I have shown that I understand how to behave on an ss13 server. For that reason i believe i should be let back into the server.

Post by **apophis775** » 18 Oct 2017, 00:50

What server have you been playing on, and would they speak to your improved behavior?

Normally, we wouldn't ask that, but you've got a history.

1234brendan · Post by **1234brendan** » 20 Oct 2017, 17:49

It's been on and off but the server is paradise that I've been trying to play by the rules as of recent. I do have a history there though so I don't know if they would speak for me

Post by **apophis775** » 22 Oct 2017, 14:44

I'll check with paradise, and see if you've improved there.

Post by **apophis775** » 22 Oct 2017, 14:48

They say you haven't really been playing, but confirm your last note is from may.

1234brendan · Post by **1234brendan** » 22 Oct 2017, 17:06

yeah since school started i havent really played but i think i might get back into it pretty soon. at least occasionally.

Post by **apophis775** » 30 Oct 2017, 15:47

This is gonna take a fair amount of time to investigate.
Your ban on the remote is actually tagged DO NOT LIFT, which is a tag only either myself or Rahl can add, and we only tag it when a situation is so extremely bad that we never want that person back.

1234brendan · Post by **1234brendan** » 30 Oct 2017, 15:56

i understand.

Post by **apophis775** » 19 Nov 2017, 23:13

Still being investigated. I'll get to it soon, it just requires a fair amount of work to investigate.

1234brendan · Post by **1234brendan** » 20 Nov 2017, 20:22

Yeah I understand that things like perma bans can take a while. No problem

Post by **apophis775** » 04 Dec 2017, 16:10

My concern here, is that you have a clear DO NOT LIFT tag in your ban on the remote. I don't remember WHY it's there, but only me and rahl can place them there, and we don't without a good reason.

1234brendan · Post by **1234brendan** » 04 Dec 2017, 20:34

Well I forget the instance that caused the perma ban but I can say that before the perma ban I had been warned and banned on multiple other occasions(temp.)

Post by **apophis775** » 06 Dec 2017, 15:59

Seems like, part of the reason for the "DO NOT LIFT" tag was that you didn't care you were being banned and were fairly indifferent to the whole situation.

Which, was that you had spawned in and killed several marines for no reason still on the ship.

1234brendan · Post by **1234brendan** » 14 Dec 2017, 22:02

Yes I do recall this

Emeraldblood · Post by **Emeraldblood** » 19 Dec 2017, 18:33

So it's come to my attention no one ever pulled the notes for this appeal, though I'm sure we all know yours by heart at this point.

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So what I think about all of this. Apop put it well a while back, "I'm not a fan of people who just ruin rounds for others, and you've shown a clear history of doing just that." This isn't just isolated to our server, you've shown you've done it on many other servers too. That said, I'm usually one to give people a second chance. I'd say we could let you have one last chance but you'd only get ONE last chance. Any reports of you doing something stupid or shooting up someone is just going to be an instant perma. I'm willing to give you some slack and I'm not saying that any slip on the rules is going to be it, but you'll be walking a very fine line until you could prove yourself. That said, it's not my call but that's my vote on the matter.

Solarmare · Post by **Solarmare** » 19 Dec 2017, 18:47

That you went and got permabanned on other servers after you already got banned here really makes me skeptical you won't just go and grief again when you get bored on this server.

You managed to make three incorrect appeals as well, when all you had to do was read the forum rules regarding them and wait to appeal again. As well as neglecting to mention past appeals in one.

My opinion would be a -1 to this, I want to see more about you improving your behavior in other servers before I think I can trust you to play in this one.

Sir Lordington · Post by **Sir Lordington** » 19 Dec 2017, 19:42

I think people deserve a second chance. While I find the details of your case very worrying, what with getting three bans in the mind-boggingly short span of three days, with a jobban ten days before that, that was more than a year ago. You've had time to think and improve.

I don't know how much you've been playing on Paradise, but if your last note is from May and you've played at least semi-regularly there then I can believe you've improved.

I agree with Emerald. Give him another shot, under heavy scrutiny. Display the kind of behaviour that got you banned in the first place and that's it, you get banned and sent on your way.

Post by **apophis775** » 21 Dec 2017, 03:29

Yeah, Gonna have to go with Denied.

You had a history of shitting up rounds for people, then went and shit up other servers till you were banned.