Forgot my VPN was on
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Forgot my VPN was on
Your Byond ID: Hivefleetchicken
Character Name: Abel Coates was one of a few.
Type Of Ban (Job-ban, Timed Ban, Permaban): Autoban by host for multikeying
Admin who banned you (if known): Host
Total Ban Duration: Permanent
What other servers do you play on? None right now, but I've been to many of them over my four years of playing on this ckey.
Are you now or have you been banned on any servers? Which ones? I am certain I've just been permabanned from quite a few servers today, for the reasons below.
Reason for ban: The autoban for multikeying. I'm currently working on a server with some friends and I had the idea of checking out how good our VPN-catcher worked, so I made two fake accounts and stuff with separate cids on two VPNs and logged into a bunch of servers including colonial marines, despite having no control variable in my test since I wasn't banned from any servers at the time to my knowledge. I realized this and decided to call it a day, and signed back into my main account (oops). Having tried to log back onto CM I am now banned (as well as a couple other servers I'm sure I'll discover). You'll have to forgive my clumsiness, I'm not a master griefer, now I'm just trying to embarrass myself as little as possible as I try to navigate how to develop my own server.
Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc): I've been playing here a while as a regular, never griefed or tried to evade, and don't intend to stop today just because of me forgetting to check what connection I was using. I understand why the measures are in place and this is my fault, but I'd rather not be permanently banned for mere clumsiness.
Character Name: Abel Coates was one of a few.
Type Of Ban (Job-ban, Timed Ban, Permaban): Autoban by host for multikeying
Admin who banned you (if known): Host
Total Ban Duration: Permanent
What other servers do you play on? None right now, but I've been to many of them over my four years of playing on this ckey.
Are you now or have you been banned on any servers? Which ones? I am certain I've just been permabanned from quite a few servers today, for the reasons below.
Reason for ban: The autoban for multikeying. I'm currently working on a server with some friends and I had the idea of checking out how good our VPN-catcher worked, so I made two fake accounts and stuff with separate cids on two VPNs and logged into a bunch of servers including colonial marines, despite having no control variable in my test since I wasn't banned from any servers at the time to my knowledge. I realized this and decided to call it a day, and signed back into my main account (oops). Having tried to log back onto CM I am now banned (as well as a couple other servers I'm sure I'll discover). You'll have to forgive my clumsiness, I'm not a master griefer, now I'm just trying to embarrass myself as little as possible as I try to navigate how to develop my own server.
Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc): I've been playing here a while as a regular, never griefed or tried to evade, and don't intend to stop today just because of me forgetting to check what connection I was using. I understand why the measures are in place and this is my fault, but I'd rather not be permanently banned for mere clumsiness.
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Re: Forgot my VPN was on
Man i hate when that happens
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Re: Forgot my VPN was on
Don't believe me?
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Re: Forgot my VPN was on
As far as character witnesses go, I've seen hivefleetchicken around on Aurora so he's definitely not just a random ckey used for the sake of attempting to bypass an old ban and he hasnt done anything like this over there.
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- Rataca100
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Re: Forgot my VPN was on
Can confirm, he is staff on some other servers etc. So as a character witness it makes sense. Does coding as well. (that and you should support internet anonymity)
And i have Pmed him on discord and that is him. so no questions on identity.
And i have Pmed him on discord and that is him. so no questions on identity.
RAWR, MEH BREN GUN!
"To be is to do."- Immanuel Kant
Nullius in verba
"To be is to do."- Immanuel Kant
Nullius in verba
- apophis775
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Re: Forgot my VPN was on
I need the total ban code.
Also, for those of you who think a Proxy or VPN actually gives you any protection, look up "lawful intercept chip". They started putting them into routers and such in the last few years because VPN companies refused to give logs. So, they forced the router manufacturers to just put the chips in if they wanted to connect to the global infrastructure. And, since most of that global infrastructure comes from US technology, you end up with a world-wide system where anyone with either access, the funds, or the know-how to hijack it, can easily access the VPN you are connected too, and track your source connection. Welcome to 2017.
Also, for those of you who think a Proxy or VPN actually gives you any protection, look up "lawful intercept chip". They started putting them into routers and such in the last few years because VPN companies refused to give logs. So, they forced the router manufacturers to just put the chips in if they wanted to connect to the global infrastructure. And, since most of that global infrastructure comes from US technology, you end up with a world-wide system where anyone with either access, the funds, or the know-how to hijack it, can easily access the VPN you are connected too, and track your source connection. Welcome to 2017.
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Re: Forgot my VPN was on
Interesting probably not smart of me to mess with this stuff for testing purposes. Anyways here's the ban reason as it appears, in its entirety.
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Re: Forgot my VPN was on
Dump whatever shitty VPN you are using. It appears to be some sort of crappy free one. Those ones claim "anonymity" but they frequently sell your information.
For reference, it's the same one most SS13 griefers use as well, so I'm hesitant to lift this.
For reference, it's the same one most SS13 griefers use as well, so I'm hesitant to lift this.
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- Rataca100
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Re: Forgot my VPN was on
apophis775 wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 17:24
For reference, it's the same one most SS13 griefers use as well, so I'm hesitant to lift this.
I can link you to a discord or two he is in to ask people about the history he has if you need more character witnesses.
RAWR, MEH BREN GUN!
"To be is to do."- Immanuel Kant
Nullius in verba
"To be is to do."- Immanuel Kant
Nullius in verba
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Re: Forgot my VPN was on
Howdy, I'm in the middle of nowhere right now (aftermath of thanksgiving reunion) and don't have access to my computer. As for the VPN program, I have no idea which one it was since I deleted it. I could put in the work once I'm back home to figure it out which one I chose, if it's absolutely necessary to unlinking me from whatever banned CKEY I've been tied to, but that could still be a few days off. I'll just post it here anyway when I get home if you don't respond.apophis775 wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 17:24Dump whatever shitty VPN you are using. It appears to be some sort of crappy free one. Those ones claim "anonymity" but they frequently sell your information.
For reference, it's the same one most SS13 griefers use as well, so I'm hesitant to lift this.
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Re: Forgot my VPN was on
It could be, because you are linked to 6 independent stickybans, all of them are from an associated evasion/griefing group, and all use the same VPN service.
So, you see my concern.
So, you see my concern.
flamecow wrote: "unga dunga me want the attachment" - average marine
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Re: Forgot my VPN was on
Hmmm, yeah, that would concern me too. I must have been using a pretty popular one. What details should I be posting about the VPN service when I find it?
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Re: Forgot my VPN was on
This may come down to notes.
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Can you heeeeaaaaar am I floating in my tin can. A last glimpse of the world.
Planet Earth is blue, and there's nothing left to do.
Forum Rule #2: Do NOT post in an appeal if you are not contributing as a witness, if you are keep it simple and easy to read.
Planet Earth is blue, and there's nothing left to do.
Forum Rule #2: Do NOT post in an appeal if you are not contributing as a witness, if you are keep it simple and easy to read.
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Re: Forgot my VPN was on
No offense, but who are you to us that we would take your word on any of that?
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Re: Forgot my VPN was on
All the notes are old, so I'll adjust it for your Ckey.
Lifted, but don't use VPNs again. You got tagged by 16 of our detectors and I don't want to go and adjust the exceptions to all of them.
Lifted, but don't use VPNs again. You got tagged by 16 of our detectors and I don't want to go and adjust the exceptions to all of them.
flamecow wrote: "unga dunga me want the attachment" - average marine