Second Perma Ban Appeal

[Hoboe7]

Your Byond ID: Hoboe777

Character Name: Michael Shane, Nina Wahad.

Type Of Ban (Job-ban, Timed Ban, Permaban): Permaban.

Admin who banned you (if known): Unknown.

Total Ban Duration: Indefinite.

Remaining Duration: Indefinite.

What other servers do you play on?:

None.

Are you now or have you been banned on any servers? Which ones?

Got brief day ban from paradise once but that was like a year ago.

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned):

Access Denied. Banned by host: H23AUG17 - Metacommer

Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable):

viewtopic.php?f=87&t=14560

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc):

Hey, it's been exactly three months or so since my first appeal. I sorta gave up trying to defend myself during the first appeal because I was so fed up and frustrated with the three days of back and forth that it surpassed my desire to get unbanned, but now I truly miss this game and the good times I had getting friendly fired, waiting forty five minutes to get a hand fracture fixed, and then getting friendly fired again. I also don't want to write another frustrated wall of text because I already did in the first appeal but to summarize it I did a coordinated meme with a friend then got banned for metacomming.

To clear things up:

Yes we both agreed to do the meme.

Yes we both used outside voice things to talk about the current round but it wasn't for any advantage against the aliens because the meme involved us running around armorless with bayonet revolvers.

Yes I felt like we should have been punished but I felt as perma was unjust because we weren't deliberately trying to ruin anyone's experience and were just trying to have a good laugh by being ironic.

We didn't give the aliens free eggs. We got killed fighting alongside other marines and were the last ones to go down in the area since the marines got pushed back. Don't assume we aren't robust boy, I've taken down an abomination with one other person by out robusting it in lower medbay and shooting at it with ap rounds for 4 minutes. Okay I'm done bragging.

"If you and your friend hadn't been snarky little shits, I wouldn't have had the staff member file the perma."- slc97
This kind of triggers me because as I said the admin did not question me at all about the issue plus I don't know if my friend being cheeky yet dumb warrants a perma (but what do I know, whatever).

So yeah I guess I served three months already I feel as though that is enough time for my punishment. If you guys need anything cleared up just reply and I'll rebuttal you for three days before I get frustrated haha. Also I'm not trying to sound snarky or pretentious it's just the way I write.

[VitorThauma]

Notes

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Banned by X|Duration: 180 minutes|Reason: EORG by (X) Mon, April 10th of 2017

Warned for stealing an ID because he wanted more attachments. by (X) on Thu, June 22nd of 2017

Banned by X|Duration: 10080 minutes|Reason: Blatant abuse of metacomms, walking wordlessly with Chad Steel/ OldJoj into the darkness fighting aliens together. Went past the point of casually chatting. by (X) on Mon, August 7th of 2017

Banned by X|Duration: 10080 minutes|Reason: Blatant abuse of metacomms, walking wordlessly with Chad Stone/ Hoboe777 into the darkness fighting aliens together. Went past the point of casually chatting. by (X) on Mon, August 7th of 2017

[Hoboe7]

Sorry if I cause confusion with the title. It's my second appeal for my first and only ban, not an appeal for a
second permanent ban.

[apophis775]

The thing is, we get tired of dealing with shitbrained members who think their forcing of an aging and no longer dank meme by playing into it as a character.
It's just tiring and draining to the staff since we have to deal with the upset players, the fact that you're breaking the rules, and the fact that you're metacomming. It's just tiring all around to deal with people who pull stupid shit, so we typically ban it to make it less tiring in the future.

This shouldn't come to a surprise, we're known for having a fairly good community with low grief because we hit stupid shit like that with a rock hard banhammer.

[Emeraldblood]

I remember this round like it was only a few days ago. I also remember that you denied you were even using meta-comms with the other guy as it was, "Purely coincidence". Can't say you don't deserve the ban.

[Hoboe7]

Yes I totally agree with you, I looked through the other ban appeals and saw another person who was also perma banned for memeing not an hour before I made my appeal, it must be very tiring to go through that crap everyday.

But, it was my first and last dank meme in the server, I'm a long time player and I remember the time I got decaped by a naked smg marine on the sulaco. I really was ignorant and thought my meme was all good fun since we caused no grief nor were we disrupting the round, and it wasn't our intent to do any of that stuff in the first place, I'm sorry for not understanding how memeing was so painfully annoying to admins, I really feel bad for all that work you guys gotta do in your own time to resolve issues. I must admit that I least deserved a timed ban for metacomming but I did not receive a warning at all and the perma was basically completely out of the blue. The meme was not worth it at all at this point. It's been three months since the issue and I'm not the most perfect colonial marines player but I was part of the community and I enjoyed it. So please, all am asking is forgiveness for this single dumb mistake, I'm not the kind of player who has fun being a dick to others and I would never meme on the server ever again except for some dabs maybe haha. I really really really hope you can consider overturning my ban. Kudos to you for reading my wall of text.

[Hoboe7]

I remember this round like it was only a few days ago. I also remember that you denied you were even using meta-comms with the other guy as it was, "Purely coincidence". Can't say you don't deserve the ban.

There is a misunderstanding, if you looked at my first appeal, the person who denied meta-comming was my friend and I argued that you never questioned me. So I'd never got to communicated with any admin at all. You can check the chat records If you think I'm lying. My byond ID is Hoboe777 and I was Chad Stone at the time, my friend and the person who you questioned was Chad Steel who's byond ID is OldJoj. Also both bans are in my notes for some reason I assume that must have been a mistake.

[Emeraldblood]

...I'm sorry for not understanding how memeing was so painfully annoying to admins...

You have to realize we get the whole Chad thing a lot. You're not the first to come up with this idea. The reason we're strict on this kind of things is that we not only get it a lot, but it takes everyone out of the immersion. As for who said what, I'll take your word that he said it, but you two are pretty much sinking in the same boat. I think you've at least gotten a pretty long ban for it. While it's not my final call, this is something we can at least give people a second chance to redeem themselves on, so I'd be up for it. Keep in mind you're going to be under stricter punishments of the rules, more so for meme names and such. Again though, up to Apop for the final call.

[Hoboe7]

Cool, feels good knowing you understand my situation.

[slc97]

Oh, I love getting quoted in ban appeals. It wasn't even the memeing that bothered me the most. It was the response to staff. We're here to make sure every person on the server can have a good time. Yes it's a volunteer position, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a draining volunteer position.

What I'm seeing here is you doing a lot of blame shifting. Saying a lot of it was your friend's fault, and that if the admin had done more things would have been different, but that's not how this should work. You made a mistake, and the right thing to do is come in here and say "I fucked up. I'm sorry. Let me show you I can do better." And that's not what I'm seeing here, so I'm going with -1 on you being unbanned for now.

[Feweh]

Draw an MS Paint depicting your ban with your friend memeing terribly and getting banned for it.

[slc97]

Draw an MS Paint depicting your ban with your friend memeing terribly and getting banned for it.

God dammit, Feweh

[Emeraldblood]

Draw an MS Paint depicting your ban with your friend memeing terribly and getting banned for it.

This is a requirement to getting the ban lifted, now that Feweh has said that.

[Hoboe7]

I don't know how to really start this, but please understand that I shifted a lot of blame because I was frustrated. Frustrated since ya know, my friend was a meme even though I told him not to be a meme when talking to admins, didn't get to talk to an admin, getting banned again after thinking it was over after the seven day ban, knowing that the only reason it got upped to perma was because my friend was being a meme when I told him not to be a meme, blah blah whatever excuses excuses. I didn't apologize since me being the natural selfish boy, was utterly convinced that the ban wasn't my fault which meant It was impossible for me to sincerely say that I fucked up at that time. But that was before I understood or even considered that all the impact that my memery was doing was being irritating, obnoxious, and tiresome to the people who voluntarily use their time keep this community amazingly spicy which was not what I wanted to do, and that I was not being thoughtful at all. So yes, I really am sorry for being a pain in the ass, me and my friend Oldjoj never intended to be one, honest. Ok, I can't really speak for Oldjoj about not intending to be a pain in the ass, but I know he does so without malice and is a good guy who likes to meme. I'm 95% sure Oldjoj won't write an appeal since he is still salty so if you could unbann him as well it would be cool. Ms paint comic is below.

[Emeraldblood]

We can't unban your friend in this threat, not how it works. If he wants to get lifted he's going to have to toughen up and post it himself. Onto this ban, I feel like I could support this being lifted. I'm all for giving people second chances and while you did break the rules, you've gotten a fair amount of time on this ban. Past notes didn't have anything serious about them either. Obviously, if this gets lifted, make sure to be aware of all the rules as breaking them is going to be worse for you for the time being. Not my call in the end, so we'll see what apop/feweh think. Also, +1 on the picture. Next time you gotta give Feweh a bottle of maple syrup, however. Canadian law requires you to have one on you at all time.

[Hoboe7]

Ok I understand, got deja vu from your post though.

[apophis775]

I've added an exception for this. But if you get in trouble for memeing again, it's restored perma.

[Hoboe7]

Looks like the exception thing didn't work. It still gives me the banned screen.

[apophis775]

Might work now. You were added in a ban associated with your friend, so that's triggering it.

[Hoboe7]

Works now. Thank you.

[apophis775]

Resolved