Cash7800 Permaban appeal

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Cash7800 Permaban appeal

Post by Cash7800 » 09 Dec 2017, 03:09

Your Byond ID: Cash7800

Character Name: Davis Poteat

Type Of Ban (Job-ban, Timed Ban, Permaban): Permaban

Admin who banned you (if known): C20AUG2017

Total Ban Duration: All time

Remaining Duration: All time

What other servers do you play on? FTl13 and TGstation sometimes

Are you now or have you been banned on any servers? Which ones? I am currently banned on paradise station, I have been banned on FTL13 and yogstation

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned): Low RP behavior, Terrible note history Permaban filed- This can be appealed

Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable):viewtopic.php?f=87&t=15023&p=162935#p162935

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc): I have a terrible note history I have broken the rules many times and I got permabanned, I was already given my last chance earlier in the year but this server is probably the best one there is, that is why so many people play. I love this community and all of the other servers I play on don't update nearly as much or have so many cool events or just make an average round so fun. I broke the rules I was a shitler at the time I got permabanned and this appeal is 23 days before I said I would post one but I love Colonial Marines and want to play again I am really sorry for my past actions but I want to be a helpful member of the community and have some fun, This is my last appeal.
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Re: Cash7800 Permaban appeal

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Re: Cash7800 Permaban appeal

Post by Emeraldblood » 09 Dec 2017, 12:59

Well, you didn't link to your past appeals for this case, which is something that ask for you to do, so not a good start. http://cm-ss13.com/viewtopic.p ... 35#p162935

It still amazes me how you got away with so much before we placed the Perma. We gave you so many chances over the 10 months you were on the server and zero signs of any improvement. Hell, you somehow pulled 6 bans and 3 notes within a single week. I imagine before this gets lifted at all, another server is going to have to say you've improved. Not my call in the end, however, so maybe Feweh and Apop will be in a really good mood when they stop by your appeal.
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Re: Cash7800 Permaban appeal

Post by slc97 » 09 Dec 2017, 17:49

What are you banned on paradise for?

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Re: Cash7800 Permaban appeal

Post by Cash7800 » 09 Dec 2017, 17:57

While I was in chemistry someone knocked on the window for ten minutes straight and I punched them until they stopped.

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Re: Cash7800 Permaban appeal

Post by Cash7800 » 09 Dec 2017, 17:58

In the past few months I have had zero offenses on FTL13 and TGstation but I have not played very much on either.

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Re: Cash7800 Permaban appeal

Post by Cash7800 » 09 Dec 2017, 18:00

I also stated in the appeal that I was unable to find my previous appeal, I discovered the subform RESOLVED APPEALS shortly after I made it

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Re: Cash7800 Permaban appeal

Post by Emeraldblood » 10 Dec 2017, 14:19

Cash7800 wrote:
09 Dec 2017, 18:00
I also stated in the appeal that I was unable to find my previous appeal, I discovered the subform RESOLVED APPEALS shortly after I made it
Glanced over that part, so fair enough. You can just click your post amount on your profile and see all your past post that way. How active have you been on the other servers? Just a rough estimate will do.
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Re: Cash7800 Permaban appeal

Post by Cash7800 » 10 Dec 2017, 16:49

I play FTL13 on the weekend sometimes and TGstation every once in a while so I would like say like five to ten hours or more

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Re: Cash7800 Permaban appeal

Post by Cash7800 » 10 Dec 2017, 19:38

I found my previous appeal and posted it, also I have been playing the game Barotrauma which is inspired by SS13 on the 24/7 server hosted by someone on these forums frequently and have not been banned or warned yet.

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Re: Cash7800 Permaban appeal

Post by apophis775 » 07 Jan 2018, 15:29

Gonna need some staff input on this.
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Re: Cash7800 Permaban appeal

Post by Sir Lordington » 07 Jan 2018, 16:44

I wish I had recorded my own face going from neutral, to curiosity, to surprise, to utter shock while reading those notes. I'm in genuine disbelief about the amount of stuff you did and the frequency with which you were noted and banned. One would think you would get the point after a few warnings and a ban but that was evidently not the case.

That said, that was six months ago. If you've been playing on other servers and kept a clean record there I do believe in giving second chances. I'd be for a ban lift under probation if that's the case.
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Re: Cash7800 Permaban appeal

Post by Tharinoma » 07 Jan 2018, 18:11

You haven't been able to post an appeal without double and tripple posting.

You haven't been able to find your previous appeal on the forums.

Your appeal itself can be summarized by "I am really sorry for my past actions but I want to be a helpful member of the community" and "this server is great".

I'm not seeing any effort whatsoever here. If you can't be bothered here, you won't bother not griefing the next time you get ff-ed in the back of the head by a rookie sniper. -1
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Re: Cash7800 Permaban appeal

Post by NethIafins » 07 Jan 2018, 18:45

You got multiple warnings. Every time instead of getting permabanned you were job-banned. Specialist, Req, Liaison, Doctor, smartgunner, researcher.

Why you didn't take the hint and actually improve your overall behavior?

All this non-stop for March to June and beyond.

You were misbehaving for 6 months on this server, dodging the bullet. I think best choice would be either to have 6 months of clear record on all servers you are currently playing on, or 3 months of VERY strict probation without any chance to lift any job bans in close future.
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Re: Cash7800 Permaban appeal

Post by Cash7800 » 07 Jan 2018, 19:49

I understand that I have a terrible note history and it seems that I put low effort into the appeal, but I would really appreciate a chance to prove I am a better player I have played frequently on baystation 12 and have not had any notes or bans to my knowledge I have realised the error of my ways and want to prove this to you by playing on this server properly without breaking any rules or tarnishing the experience of other players. I would like to admit that I have made mistakes during my ban duration and I am currently banned from FTL13 and Paradise station I admit that I have obviously done wrong and you probably believe that I will continue to do wrong in the future, please give me another chance so I can prove that I have improved as an SS13 player. I would say that you could just ban me again if I slip up, but I imagine the process is far more difficult than it looks to me as I have never done that sort of thing on any game.

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Re: Cash7800 Permaban appeal

Post by Kerek » 08 Jan 2018, 03:07

Personally, I’d support a lift to this ban aslong as he accepted a sort of, if he fucks up then he doesn’t get to appeal the next one. I think just have a VERY strict probationary period and let him return with a few restrictions to roles.
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Re: Cash7800 Permaban appeal

Post by freemysoul » 08 Jan 2018, 07:51

What are you going to guarantee us that you won't break the rules again because let's be honest, you've HAD way too many chances with us.

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Re: Cash7800 Permaban appeal

Post by slc97 » 08 Jan 2018, 11:59

How old are you?

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Re: Cash7800 Permaban appeal

Post by Cash7800 » 08 Jan 2018, 18:03

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Re: Cash7800 Permaban appeal

Post by Cash7800 » 08 Jan 2018, 18:23

freemysoul wrote:
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What are you going to guarantee us that you won't break the rules again because let's be honest, you've HAD way too many chances with us.
I cannot guarantee that I will never break the rules again, I can honestly say that I will attempt to be a better player and wish to prove that to you by being a good player in the game.

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Re: Cash7800 Permaban appeal

Post by Emeraldblood » 08 Jan 2018, 20:35

Personally, I don't like to bring age and all that into so I don't care about that part. I do care that you got so many notes and warnings and you still never got any better over time. I don't think I'd support this one this time, but I wouldn't be opposed to you getting a chance at coming back under probation, though know if you fail it you're gone for good with no chance to appeal.
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Re: Cash7800 Permaban appeal

Post by Skysoldier » 09 Jan 2018, 05:27

As much as I like giving second chances, there have been people with far less 'crimes' being denied and told off for at least a year.

It's not even repetition of small case rule breaks, there are a lot of grief related notes, which I really abhor compared to other ones as it directly harms other players.

So I'm against this, even if the person claims that they have matured, considering they haven't learned much at the time of the ban they need a firm denial here to decisively show this isn't alright.
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Re: Cash7800 Permaban appeal

Post by Kerek » 09 Jan 2018, 09:35

Can you give us an example of what you think is proper escalation?
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Re: Cash7800 Permaban appeal

Post by slc97 » 09 Jan 2018, 09:45

The reason I brought your age into this is that I dealt with you a number of times and saw a very severe lack of maturity when handling situations involving you and was curious as to how old you are. I'm going to say that, given the severe nature of all of your infractions, this should be denied without prejudice, and the player be allowed to reappeal at the start of April.

Right now, I feel like he needs more time to think over his actions and do some personal growth.

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Re: Cash7800 Permaban appeal

Post by Solarmare » 09 Jan 2018, 16:58

I'd prefer a denial, too many chances to improve all thrown away. If you wanted to play the server you could have improved your behavior at any point previously, and for now I don't really see any reason the permaban should be lifted.
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