Permaban Appeal - YourNeutralness

[YourNeutralness]

Your Byond ID: YourNeutralness, Brendan21

Character Name: It was probably Wakanga... something. Maybe it was Brendan Browning. Sorry, I have been jumping between names.

Type Of Ban (Job-ban, Timed Ban, Permaban): Permaban

Admin who banned you (if known): I don't recall

Total Ban Duration: Perma

Remaining Duration: N/A

What other servers do you play on? Paradise

Are you now or have you been banned on any servers? Which ones? I was perma banned from paradise for making cleanbots with porn names on them. Seemed harsh as it was the first time an admin spoke to me as I recall but I mostly played Colonial Marines anyway so I never appealed for clemency.

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned): Banned by host: B25NOV17 - Evasion, multikeying, dickery.

Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable):

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc):

I was in perma-brig for trying to stop my SL getting arrested with about 4 other members of alpha squad. Speaking to an admin I learned that multikeying was illegal even if you only used it to log in on a new account after dying. I had read the rules earlier but mistakenly thought that it was only illegal if you had both accounts open at the same time to screen cheat. I only ever used another account once my first character died. But if it is against the rules then I'm sorry and won't do it again. I have deactivated my Byond account Brendan21 and intend to only ever use YourNeutralness again.

I presume the dickery is because I was interfering with an arrest or it could have been that I have a lot of admin notes. The admin I spoke to mentioned that I had a lot of notes at least. All I can say is that I won't try to interfere with an arrest or do anything vaguely mutinous again without following the proper rules. I'm not sure if what alpha squad was doing was mutiny, but I won't do it again and will just drop next time. Typically I think I am a pretty decent player and play MP quite a lot. I don't think I've ever been banned for being an MP which is usually the role that outs most dicks but perhaps that's wrong. I have been playing on and off since it was the Sulaco so I might have forgotten a ban.

All I can say is sorry and hope you relent this time as I really love playing Colonial Marines.

[Solarmare]

Notes:
Yourneutralness

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Warned for over-escalation, him and another marine beat a PO into near-death because the PO retreated from the planet and left marines behind. by X on Fri, August 18th of 2017

Readied up, joined the round as a Squad Leader, immediately ahelped saying he unreadied a second too late and had to go. by X on Tue, August 29th of 2017

Arrested the CMP For disrespect to a superior and false arrest, Was told to ahelp in the future any time arresting an MP Would be involved. by X on Sun, September 3rd of 2017

Banned from Alien - Suicide as larva because he "thought it was funny" by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Wed, September 13th of 2017 Remove

Banned from Queen - Suicide as larva because he "thought it was funny" by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Wed, September 13th of 2017 Remove

May have intentionally lit another marine on fire then willingly gotten infected and disconnected afterwards, sent an LOOC About saying "Screw this the rounds almost over" Then afterwards hit another marine with a flamethrower, Dragged them to a medic however then died soon afterwards and disconnected. by X on Tue, November 7th of 2017

Warned for improper escalation, went SSD, came back and found his goggles missing, went to a another marine and asked to search their bag by gunpoint, and then shot from settings related to aiming and ended up shooting other marine to death. by X on Tue, November 14th of 2017

Banned by X|Duration: 10080 minutes|Reason: Multikeying + Ban evading. Pending perma. by X on Sat, November 25th of 2017

Brendan21

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Banned from Squad Specialist - Joined as bravo spec, went to the specialist prep room, got into a verbal argument with someone and said 'Lol eat shit' then logged out" by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Thu, December 22nd of 2016 Remove

Warning to change name from "Ray Person", a character from Generation Kill. by X on Fri, August 11th of 2017

SSD'd early game after getting smartgunner role. Keep an eye out for going as semi-important roles and SSDing. by X on Mon, August 14th of 2017

Build electrified grille in defenses as squad engineer that lead to more people being harmed than it did good. He claimed it was to cover retreat but was build in the middle of a safe area to fire from, causing many poeple to end up bumping into it. Next similar infraction will lead to a job ban. by X on Wed, September 20th of 2017

Joined with the name "Chuck Norse" said they just liked Norse gods, Warned. by X on Mon, October 16th of 2017

Warned for netspeaking IC by X on Tue, November 7th of 2017

Banned from Squad Smartgunner - Caused a massive gunfight in Requistions over attachments. by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Thu, November 16th of 2017 Remove

Banned by X|Duration: 1440 minutes|Reason: Caused a massive gunfight in Requistions over attachments. by X on Thu, November 16th of 2017

Banned by X|Duration: 1440 minutes|Reason: Shot at MPS in brig for having a long sentence. Aimed for the head, and broke their skull obvious malicious intent. by X on Thu, November 23rd of 2017

[Emeraldblood]

I mean, common logic would suggest that if we don't allow people to respawn after they die, doing so by a workaround wouldn't be a good idea. In your defense, the rules for Multi-key do only say, "At the same time," so under that ruling, you'd only really be banned for Ban-Evading, which does state not to use more than one Ckey to evade bans, job-bans, and notes, of which each account has both. So in the end, I would say that this is mostly going to come down to a case of appealing for Ban-Evade. Even if you weren't really aware you were doing it, that doesn't mean that the charges are any less.

[YourNeutralness]

Is there anyway I can get the permaban for ban evading reduced? Do I need to make a new post appealing the ban-evade? I'm sorry for evading and won't do it again.

[Emeraldblood]

Actually, thinking about it, having two keys on registered in the round may still be multikey, but you logged out so debatably just Ban-Evading. The punishment for Ban-Evading is still a perma so you're still going to need to appeal to have it lifted, like you're doing, but your case is not as bad as if it could have been. Your notes are also a little worrying. Massive gunfight in Req over attachments?

[apophis775]

These notes are total shit and I'm not sure we want to allow you back on the server.

[YourNeutralness]

It was a 24 hour ban so I never appealed the massive gun fight. If you check the logs for that you'll see that I told the other people to chill many times during the fight. It was still probably over-escalation but I showed restraint and as far as I recall I only shot once the RO pulled a gun on me. Even then I shot like twice whereas the RO shot quite a few times and then another guy started beating on me after I told him to chill out quite a few times. In my opinion 3 people does not make a "massive gunfight". But it's possible I am misremembering as it was a month ago.

The MP shooting was also a 24 hour ban. I didn't have the MP's head targeted or if I did it was by accident, but I'm pretty sure I didn't change it to the head because I wasn't a medic that round. If it is possible for you to pull the logs for that game you'll see that they left me in the brig with C4. So of course its fun to blow open the brig and then try and hide in another cell. Unfortunately when you're dealing with the MP's there isn't much you can do to win as you always lose against taser. I distinctly recall trying to start a kind of stand-off in the brig by radio-ing them not to come closer etc. I think there may have been a mess up with the take hostage SS13 system there, that might have happened with the req fight too, I think I didn't have enough time to change it to allow running and stuff like that so it might have shot. But that could be completely wrong as it was a while ago.

I agree that I over used force in many of the notes but apart from that I think I am a pretty good and positive player. I play a lot of MP and yet there is only one note against me as an MP there. I'm obviously not as experienced as you guys at looking at negative players but I would have thought that there would be a lot of notes against me as MP if I was a shitty player as that tends to be the role that people abuse.

Anyway I have nothing to say about the ban evasion except that I'm sorry and won't do it again.

Thanks

[Emeraldblood]

Self Antag is against the rules. This isn't made better when you're just getting your second account after you die. While your case isn't hopeless to appeal, you may need to go another month before we decide to let this one get lifted, being you only got banned recently.

[YourNeutralness]

Sorry I won't do that again.

OK thankyou. Should I post a new thread after a month or just reply to this one again?

[apophis775]

I'm gonna say this is denied.

Appeal again in Feburary once some time has passed.