(PO)- Jobban Appeal

Redikalzip · Post by **Redikalzip** » 11 Dec 2017, 08:24

Your Byond ID: ReDikAl.ZiP

Character Name: Simon 'ATOM' Sanford

Type Of Ban (Job-ban, Timed Ban, Permaban): Job-ban. (PO).

Admin who banned you (if known): Friendly Bot.

Total Ban Duration: Permanent

Remaining Duration: Permanent

What other servers do you play on? Only on Colonial Marines.

Are you now or have you been banned on any servers? Which ones? No.

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned): Was warned for frontline fighting as a PO, when told off said they weren't frontline fighting they were in the FOB (which at the time they were since they died earlier), told them I saw them on the frontline die to a boiler cloud, said they were moving wounded, then brought up how I saw him shooting xenos a bunch aswell as a lot of combat logs. Seems he was trying to lie pretty blatantly about it to wriggle out of a note/ban. Heavy warning watch for similar behaviour. August 18th of 2017

Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable):

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc): Okay, let me talk about that incident with PO. At round start I spawned as PO and prepared Normandy for CAS missions and start waiting lazers. After 1-1.5 hours, and because no one lazed my targets I came to Alamo for help it. After 10-30 mins I had crate to pull it to FOB and... I did so.
After It I did stay at FOB for defende it and evacuate woundeds from frontline (I didn't know its meta or breaking PO's rules). I came to frontlie WEST of nexus, there was few hunters and I did few shoots at 'em. There's Kavlo said me about, why I'm at FOB and I can't be near frotlines. *Warned, I think). But I did not understand this and continued to be on FOB, it's my first bad thing, what I did wrong, yeah.
Next time one of others moderators or mentors PMed me about why I'm on frontline and pulling woundeds from it and Banned to 24 hours. (no one said me about my Jban, because I was banned before that Jban).
On finnal: I can say I've bad or not bad notes about few big problems with that jobfollowing. But I know my problems and I trying fix 'em (I can say, I'd not want to do it now, really, I want no more being Jbaned).
Thanks for revieving it and good luck.

VitorThauma · Post by **VitorThauma** » 11 Dec 2017, 09:34

You've provided a wrong ckey
redikalzip's notes:

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Redikalzip · Post by **Redikalzip** » 11 Dec 2017, 09:49

VitorThauma wrote: ↑
11 Dec 2017, 09:34
You've provided a wrong ckey
redikalzip's notes:
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Banned by X|Duration: 180 minutes|Reason: EORG by (X) on Sun, February 19th of 2017

Warned for slashing infected and nested hosts as a runner. by (X) on Sun, February 26th of 2017

Banned by X|Duration: 180 minutes|Reason: EORG by (X) on Thu, April 13th of 2017

Warned for attempting to gear up with the CO's smartgun as a BO. by (X) on Sun, April 16th of 2017

Warned about pointless ahelps, ahelped saying 'oh... goodbye sulaco' by (X) on Sat, April 29th of 2017

Banned by X|Duration: 180 minutes|Reason: Pointless ahelp after already being warned about the rule in the same round. by (X) on Sat, April 29th of 2017

Warned for slashing a nested and infected host by accident. Warned that next offence will be a job ban. by (X) on Sun, April 30th of 2017

Reminded about RP guidelines. (Hivemind, Bloody Larva (798) hisses, 'Suka blyat') by (X) on Mon, May 29th of 2017

Warned for attempting to break the ultra-strong glass in atmospherics mixed air chamber on the Almayer as a Xeno. Told that it can fuck the atmos if it breaks. by (X) on Sat, June 10th of 2017

Warned for building defences as standard by (X) on Sat, July 29th of 2017

Banned by X|Duration: 540 minutes|Reason: EORG by (X) on Sat, August 5th of 2017

Was warned for frontline fighting as a PO, when told off said they weren't frontline fighting they were in the FOB (which at the time they were since they died earlier), told them I saw them on the frontline die to a boiler cloud, said they were moving wounded, then brought up how I saw him shooting xenos a bunch aswell as a lot of combat logs. Seems he was trying to lie pretty blatantly about it to wriggle out of a note/ban. Heavy warning watch for similar behaviour. by (X) on Fri, August 18th of 2017

Banned by X|Duration: 1440 minutes|Reason: Literally did the exact thing kavlo warned him not to do previously. Argued kavlo didnt warn him, even though he was. Was by research frontline as PO, his ship wasn't even on the planet. by (X) on Fri, August 18th of 2017

Banned from Pilot Officer - See above. by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Fri, August 18th of 2017 Remove

PM-ed me on byond to complain too: http://i.imgur.com/IH8TR5q.png by (X) on Fri, August 18th of 2017

Fired an OB and killed marines including a CO, claims he accidentally put the wrong offset. by (X) on Fri, September 15th of 2017

As a crusher, continued to break rocks, despite being told to stop previously. claimed it was an accident, but it was witnessed multiple times by (X) on Sun, September 17th of 2017

Missclicked and killed a couple of monkeys, knows not to kill monkeys needlessly as marine. by (X) on Tue, November 28th of 2017

Watch for possible metarushing as marine/sl. by (X) on Tue, November 28th of 2017

Banned from Alien - Metagame as xeno - Sneaked into the Almayer through the Normandy as a larva, evolved into a drone and melted the dropship part fabricator. Slashed ONLY the telecomms APC and nothing else. by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Mon, December 11th of 2017 Remove

Extremely argumentative player. by (X) on Mon, December 11th of 2017

ReDikAl.ZiP is my Byond account, but in your hub displaying redikalzip or something like it.

VitorThauma · Post by **VitorThauma** » 11 Dec 2017, 09:54

Redikal V wrote: ↑
11 Dec 2017, 09:49
ReDikAl.ZiP is my Byond account, but in your hub displaying redikalzip or something like it.

Byond being dumb.

Post by **Feweh** » 11 Dec 2017, 12:22

Banned from Alien - Metagame as xeno - Sneaked into the Almayer through the Normandy as a larva, evolved into a drone and melted the dropship part fabricator. Slashed ONLY the telecomms APC and nothing else. by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Mon, December 11th of 2017 Remove

Extremely argumentative player. by (X) on Mon, December 11th of 2017

As a Predator player, this is really effecting your status to remain as a Predator and Im debating removing you solely for the "argumentative player" note.

Emeraldblood · Post by **Emeraldblood** » 11 Dec 2017, 18:26

While the whole Predator topic isn't my job, I'm going to say that being you're someone who holds a Predator whitelist, I expected better notes from you. While you're not racking up a tonne of notes, you're not getting much better over time and you're still getting warned about something every month. It doesn't look like you're going to be getting much better so I think you really need to start shaping up before this gets lifted. Apop or Feweh may decide to lift it, as it is their call in the end, but I'm on the borderline right now.

Post by **apophis775** » 11 Dec 2017, 19:45

I'm gonna need a good reason to not deny this and dump you off the pred whitelist.

Redikalzip · Post by **Redikalzip** » 11 Dec 2017, 21:11

I considered all my mistakes and found a problem in myself. I'm too energetic. I do not ponder before doing anything. And this is my problem. I want you to give the last chance to correct my situation. And I can give my word that I will try not to do the very stupid things that I admit playing for different roles. Henceforth this will not be. My word.
I know that my last action with metagame spoils my reputation (even strongly). I try my best to correct the problems in myself.
While I was doing this I thought that everything was fine. Because I have seen many times how other players did it without punishment. Many times I saw this and they were not punished. And so I didn't know what to make my way to the ship and break the APC are metagame (because other players did it too). I repeat, I didn't know this because many times I saw how players do the same before me.
For my last words here, thanks.

Post by **apophis775** » 13 Dec 2017, 15:09

"Someone else did it" is never an excuse. Just because someone else didn't get caught, doesn't mean you wont.
Literally, that excuse is "well, everyone was breaking the rules, so I figured I wouldn't get in trouble".

Redikalzip · Post by **Redikalzip** » 13 Dec 2017, 22:24

I would say differently. Looking at the others and what they did, I thought that this is normal and allowed to the players. But as it turned out I was very mistaken in this and did stupid things.
This does'ot mean that I'd not know the rules. I know them, but I missed the detail about this problem.

Emeraldblood · Post by **Emeraldblood** » 14 Dec 2017, 16:29

I mean, you'd have to have realized that what you were doing was pretty meta in the context. Larvas don't be on the front-lines and you put its life in lots of damage, which goes against a larva mindset. Then you turned into a drone afterward and melted just the dropship parts and killed T-Comms. Stepping back to reflect on what happened, it's pretty obvious what was going on. While that may apply to something like predator, I feel like it won't matter much for PO. The thing that really makes me not want to appeal this is an admin warned you and then you tried to pull a, "well he never officially said it was a warning," card when you were getting called out for it the second time if I recall correctly. Then you go out of your way to harass the staff member who banned you over Byond which is something that really annoys me. Now granted, it was mild compared to what other sometimes say when they do that, but the intent is still clear.

Post by **apophis775** » 15 Dec 2017, 16:05

Did he message the staff member over Byond?

Emeraldblood · Post by **Emeraldblood** » 15 Dec 2017, 17:45

This is in reference to the older note when the PO ban went down, not recently.

Banned by X|Duration: 1440 minutes|Reason: Literally did the exact thing kavlo warned him not to do previously. Argued kavlo didnt warn him, even though he was. Was by research frontline as PO, his ship wasn't even on the planet. by (X) on Fri, August 18th of 2017

Banned from Pilot Officer - See above. by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Fri, August 18th of 2017 Remove

PM-ed me on byond to complain too: http://i.imgur.com/IH8TR5q.png by (X) on Fri, August 18th of 2017

Redikalzip · Post by **Redikalzip** » 15 Dec 2017, 23:07

Now I understand that these actions are metagame. Before I did it, I did not know it. It happened in the summer and then I did not take everything seriously. Yes, in the main points I'm wrong and did not do the right thing.
I PMed him for say "thanks" and I did so.
Rules says I can't message about ban outside forum.
It happened in the summer and then I didn't take everything seriously. Yes, in the main points I'm wrong and did't t do the right thing. But thinking now I realized that this was the last thing I could do wrong. I mean the situation with larva. As I said earlier, I did it by ignorance and thought everything was fine.
Maybe my punishment for xeno serves me well. Since I do not play very often for xeno, and I do not think that xeno is role for RP. This will give me the opportunity to fully play for the Marines. I don't consider xeno a bad role, but as for me it doesn't allow me to be realized in the RP.
Thanks.

Emeraldblood · Post by **Emeraldblood** » 16 Dec 2017, 16:00

Personally, I don't have anything against you playing PO. This was a while ago and you've been active since the ban went down. That said, we're going to be looking at the argument you had with one of the staff. Feweh/Apop will update with the outcome decided after we review them.

Tharinoma · Post by **Tharinoma** » 16 Dec 2017, 23:52

I've seen you salt pretty hard in deadchat and LOOC during the last few days, once borderline abusing LOOC. Definitly not the type of behavior I'd expect from a predator player, or any experienced player at all.

Redikalzip · Post by **Redikalzip** » 17 Dec 2017, 03:24

In normal state I'm not being salty. But after stupid death or hardly FF (Everyday I'm FFed so hard), It's making me more salty after death in Dchat.
Plus I've hard period in my real life, I wan't say about it, but ... It's so hard. I resting my nerves in SS13.
I know, but, yeah. I'll try hold my emotions inside me. Thanks.

Post by **apophis775** » 17 Dec 2017, 16:41

CM is not a game to "rest your nerves" in. We are one of the saltiest games available.

Redikalzip · Post by **Redikalzip** » 17 Dec 2017, 23:15

You're right. But this game brings pleasure when you play it. CT, RO, PO, doctor, engineer, MT, quiet roles to relax and I often play for them.

Post by **Feweh** » 19 Dec 2017, 16:37

Denied.

Shape up, your next ban/job ban is a predator removal.

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