Ban Appeal

RearKing · Post by **RearKing** » 21 Feb 2018, 20:34

I initially posted this in the experimental ban thread, but thought maybe I should make its own thread, and have editted my first post to be a link to this thread.

Your Byond ID: RearKing

Character Name: Vince Oldeman

Type Of Ban (Job-ban (include the job), Timed Ban, Permaban): Superban

Admin who banned you (if known): host

Total Ban Duration: Perma

Remaining Duration: Perma

What other servers do you play on?
Paradise, Oracle

Are you now or have you been banned on any servers? Which ones?
Was banned a few times on Paradise when I first started playing SS13 for being a basic grey tide shitter; mostly bar fights and killing myself in prison, once for speaking in all caps.

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned): https://imgur.com/nxlW7GK

Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable):

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc): I was multikeying. I got put on xenos at round start and wanted to play marines. I don't really like xenos. I don't understand them or how to play them very well. The round prior I got put on xenos, didn't want to play them, so I just exited out and waited for the next round to try again. When I got put on xenos a second time I got frustrated and made a new account to try and play marines this time and got hit with the ban. I had no intention of cheating or using the other account to metagame or ghost watch or anything, but I know that doesn't matter according to the rules. I only started playing CM a couple days ago so I'll understand if you guys don't care to give me a second chance, especially considering I wasn't willing to give xenos much of a chance and broke a big rule for it. But I liked my short time here and would appreciate your consideration of this appeal.

Tharinoma · Post by **Tharinoma** » 21 Feb 2018, 20:43

When did this happen?
Please give us the list of any and all ckeys you used to log into the server since forever.
No notes on account RearKing.

Edit : no notes on KireiYeah either.

RearKing · Post by **RearKing** » 21 Feb 2018, 20:56

I think it was technically today, very early morning, around 3am. The account that got me the initial ban was KireiYeah. RearKing is my original account. Like I said I made the other account on a spur of the moment. I don't think I logged in with any other accounts ever, but if I did that was most likely months or years ago and probably not why I got banned today.

RearKing · Post by **RearKing** » 21 Feb 2018, 23:21

It may be because it's the experimental superban, I'm not sure. Those are my two accounts and logging in and joining the server with KireiYeah is what triggered the superban.

Post by **apophis775** » 22 Feb 2018, 15:14

Were you playing with no problem AFTER the experimental superban was posted?

RearKing · Post by **RearKing** » 22 Feb 2018, 19:51

Do you mean when testing of the experimental superban began? If so, yes, assuming the experimental superban was going on from around the 12th onward. I was banned on the 21st in the early morning, and was playing with no issues for couple days prior to that.

Post by **apophis775** » 23 Feb 2018, 18:12

And it told you it was part of the superban?

RearKing · Post by **RearKing** » 23 Feb 2018, 18:15

Yes, I linked a picture of what appears when I attempt to login in my appeal, I'll post it again for convenience: https://imgur.com/nxlW7GK 0000XX1 multikeyer superban etc etc and what not.

edit: I know you guys are busy with more important things, but I'd appreciate an update on how things are going when you have a bit of time for it. Thanks for looking at my appeal.

RearKing · Post by **RearKing** » 05 Mar 2018, 09:08

At the risk of ruining the possibility of this ban being appealed I'm posting just to say that I'd really like to play again. Like I said I know you guys have far more important things to deal with than just a bunch of idiots who got deserved bans, myself included, but I did really enjoy the short time I had on this server and would love the opportunity to become a player and member who positively contributes to rounds and the community at large. Any time you guys spend on this appeal is more than appreciated. Thanks.

slc97 · Post by **slc97** » 05 Mar 2018, 12:49

The problem here is that you're appealing a multikeying perma literally the day it happened. We normally make permabanned players sit around for a bit. Multikeying just so you can play a different role than you got shows me that you care about your own enjoyment more than playing by the rules of the server. That makes me think you might do something similarly selfish in the future.

RearKing · Post by **RearKing** » 05 Mar 2018, 14:26

That's fair. I can see how logging out just to try to get back in on the other side can harm a team in the early game, and I definitely was more concerned with my own sense of entitlement to play on marines than to adhere to the rules at that moment. I don't want to be cliche and say "I've learned my lesson" since not only does just about everyone say something like that when they've been banned, I can't actually show or exhibit that to you and the rest of the staff. I will say though, not that it counts for much, that in my short time here I had no negative run ins with staff (besides this instance), followed orders as best as I could, and only accidentally grenaded myself twice. I had a momentary, albeit major, lapse in judgement. I want another chance to show that I can not only abide by the rules, but be a decent player that people like seeing in rounds.

Emeraldblood · Post by **Emeraldblood** » 07 Mar 2018, 09:51

How long have you been playing on the server? That and did you even bother to read the server rules prior to making a new account?

RearKing · Post by **RearKing** » 07 Mar 2018, 18:56

I played a few matches over a couple days. I did look at the rules, I didn't read every line but enough to understand the basic expectations, no racism, no griefing, no 18+ junk, be in character, follow orders, etc and figured it was more or less similar than the rules on other medium/high RP servers. Like I said I was frustrated and did it on the spur of the moment, I was sort of thinking it might not have been that terrible of a thing to do since I wasn't planning on spying with one account while playing on the other, I just wanted to play as a marine.

Emeraldblood · Post by **Emeraldblood** » 11 Mar 2018, 19:42

I'll be willing to give you a second chance, but know that it's probably going to take Apop a while to get around to it. Consider the time it takes to get this lifted your punishment for the case. Still down to Apop in the end, but that's my vote.

RearKing · Post by **RearKing** » 12 Mar 2018, 21:01

Thank you, I appreciate it. Would love to play again.

Post by **apophis775** » 14 Mar 2018, 16:14

There's more to this than you are letting on.

This was not detected via the normal multikeying.

Did you Change your CID or Use a VPN?

Because the multikey superban wouldn't have detected what you explained, something else would have.

RearKing · Post by **RearKing** » 17 Mar 2018, 03:47

I was probably using a VPN. I don't really remember. I left this out but I had been hitting the bottle pretty hard when I did all of this. Otherwise I probably wouldn't have been so impulsive and I most likely would've just played something else instead of being stubborn. Like I said man, I just really wanted to play marines. The Aliens franchise isn't interesting to me from the point of the aliens, for me it's all about the marines dealing with bugs that bleed acid.

Post by **apophis775** » 19 Mar 2018, 17:45

Like, when you tried to login the other day, you had a VPN? That's the only way this should have caught you.

RearKing · Post by **RearKing** » 19 Mar 2018, 20:44

Yes, when I was originally banned. There's a VPN client I use whenever I'm torrenting anything, and it wouldn't have been that hard to just flip it on while I was doing all of this.

Post by **apophis775** » 20 Mar 2018, 12:23

Well, I can add a single exception, but here's the thing:

1. Any Account made from your house that is not your main will always be auto-banned
2. Anyone who logins from your house that is not your authorized account will be auto-banned
3. If you login with your account from anyone elses houses or IP then they will be auto-banned.

RearKing · Post by **RearKing** » 22 Mar 2018, 03:19

I don't think any of that will be a problem. Thanks Apop, I appreciate it.

Post by **apophis775** » 22 Mar 2018, 16:09

Actually, looking into this, it's going to take a bit of time.

You did SOMETHING to get triggerd in not just the superban, but many of the other multikey and VPN detection bans. I'd have to create about a half dozen exceptions in the bans to let you through.

Are you sure you didn't use a VPN or Scrambler, because that is what would trigger this across so many accounts.

RearKing · Post by **RearKing** » 23 Mar 2018, 02:41

Like I said, it wouldn't have taken any thought to flip on my VPN, and I was a bit under the bottle and being rash. I know I definitely tried another account that I made right then, at the very least that I do remember doing. All I know is when I try to login, I get that big SUPERBAN message. I have tried logging in since then on my main and primary account, but I don't think I have a dynamic IP or anything.

Post by **apophis775** » 12 Apr 2018, 00:23

I'll get to this soon. I'm still working on the Superban, which many of the tags you have are associated with accounts that are being added to the superban.

RearKing · Post by **RearKing** » 13 Apr 2018, 09:07

Take your time, I know you got a lot to deal with.

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