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Arbs second medical job ban appeal

Post by Arbs » 25 Feb 2018, 19:43

Your Byond ID: Arbs

Character Name: Alan Jones

Type Of Ban (Job-ban (include the job), Timed Ban, Permaban): Job Ban, Medical

Admin who banned you (if known): The Adminbot.

Total Ban Duration: Permanent.

Remaining Duration: -

What other servers do you play on? No other servers I actively play on.

Are you now or have you been banned on any servers? Which ones? No.

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned):
Taken from previous appeal notes:
Banned from Chief Medical Officer, Doctor, Researcher - ODed themselves as Rsr and left by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Wed, September 27th of 2017

Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable): https://cm-ss13.com/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=15491

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc):

My last appeal was done when I was still more or less new around here and still learning the rules and exploring what the game can offer. It was denied in order for me to gain some more experience with the server rules and also to get a better understanding of how things work.

I still remember the time when I ODed as a researcher while testing out game mechanics on how chemicals reacted with the body. I did it in a very dumb way by testing it on myself for some reason. What happened was I took a toxic pill made of mercury and then dylovene to counter it. Obviously it ended up horribly and since I was isolated in research, I lost hope that anyone would've been able to respond in time or at all, so I more or less ragequit the game.

Looking at it back in retrospect it was very dumb of me to do something like that. And it is a newbie mistake that is now preventing me from enjoying a whole other fun aspect of the game.

Since my last appeal I can say that I have a much better understanding of the rules and that I am really trying to not violate any of them again. I am aware that I have received a few more notes since my last appeal and I have learned from them and all of my mistakes which I still remember. If needed I can explain every note I have received, what happened and what I did wrong. I also have to say however that I never had any malicious intent in my violations.
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Re: Arbs second medical job ban appeal

Post by Tharinoma » 26 Feb 2018, 00:56

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Re: Arbs second medical job ban appeal

Post by spookydonut » 26 Feb 2018, 01:54

I know you mean well most of the time but you keep accruing notes.

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Re: Arbs second medical job ban appeal

Post by NethIafins » 26 Feb 2018, 02:03

Arbs wrote:
25 Feb 2018, 19:43
Since my last appeal I can say that I have a much better understanding of the rules and that I am really trying to not violate any of them again. I am aware that I have received a few more notes since my last appeal and I have learned from them and all of my mistakes which I still remember. If needed I can explain every note I have received, what happened and what I did wrong. I also have to say however that I never had any malicious intent in my violations.
While explaining every single note isn't required, you receiving 5 notes and a day ban is quite an issue for your appeal.

However... that being said... The fact that you played every single day this year...

So please, explain to us your latest ban. Why didn't you ahelp and disconnect when you had issues? Do you know that anyone (including some random griefer) can cover up his actions with an explanation like this.?
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Re: Arbs second medical job ban appeal

Post by Arbs » 26 Feb 2018, 06:36

The latest 24h ban happened during Ice Colony. It was perhaps my second or third time as a B18. I don't really set specialist as a preference that often. We were deployed in via LZ2 with four squads, space was very tight and clear lines of fire were difficult to find. What I would attribute the cause of the FF to be is my faliure to properly identify the bullet paths as shown here. A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Alpha]/[Omega] Lag spikes were also making movement even more clunkier and irresoponsive than it is on is own combined with the fact that I could not communicate with others due to being deaf for the most part.

This is a somewhat accurate representation of my position at the time. https://i.imgur.com/ksE5JyN.png There was a ravager and plenty of smaller xenos behind that wall and I was trying to prevent them from breaching in through that barricade.

I understand that the note explicitly says "naded marines about 5 times, some of them looking extremely intentional", however most of the instances were technically me landing grenades upon myself. FF was a collateral of the blast radius of the grenades that damaged marines next to me.

The only time a Grenade hit a marine directly, his name was Casimir Taylor I believe, was when I was being disarmed constantly by someone that was mad at me apparently(whose name I will also keep hidden for now) while wielding the grenade launcher and it fired during struggle in a random direction, hitting said marine.

Another instance was also my first accident which happened in the hallway just "west" of the underground library. Where two alpha privates were about to be jumped at by hunters and my grenade hit a wooden barricade that caused the nade to bounce back to me.

As I said, my intention was not to grief. I simply had the wrong tool, in the worst place possible, all with a blend of confusion and turmoil. I am fully aware that grief is a great way to get yourself banned, and had it been my intention I would've probably done it blatantly and admit it. Foremost I didn't even have any reason to grief with anyone in the first place, irp or ooc.

Improper escalation happened when I was trying to communicate with SkySoldier I believe, who thankfully gave me the benefit of doubt, while at the same time dealing with a bunch of angry lynching marines which was making it difficult to focus. I fired some warning shots, which was a big mistake on my part and the wrong way to deal with it at the time, in an attempt to have them leave me alone as I waited for the CMP and kept communicating with SkySoldier. But as I said it was all blurry at the time. Now however I do understand what improper escalation is and how not to repeat it again.

I did not ahelp it as I thought I could go through with this to the end as I surrendered myself to the MPs after evac and treat it as an IC issue just shortly before the 24h ban was put on, with which I do agree because it was a colossal mess up on my side.
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Re: Arbs second medical job ban appeal

Post by Tharinoma » 28 Feb 2018, 03:33

Warnded for using a CT's ID as an MP to hand out cargo goods. He did put it back. (x) by () on Sun, February 4th of 2018 - This is not good at all.

Considering how often you play, that your notes are globally not that bad and that you didn't get any in the last few weeks, I'm fine with this being lifted.
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Re: Arbs second medical job ban appeal

Post by Omicega » 28 Feb 2018, 06:54

The vast majority of your notes are just warnings, and for what it's worth having seen you in-game as much as I have I personally find it hard to believe you'd come on CM with intent to do anything malicious.

None of your warnings or notes other than the jobban are related to medical at all, so I think you should definitely get another shot at it. Consider this a +1 for unban.
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Re: Arbs second medical job ban appeal

Post by VitorThauma » 01 Mar 2018, 14:46

You are a nice player that plays a lot, but these notes are not great. I think I can give you another chance, but you have to stop being dumb.
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Re: Arbs second medical job ban appeal

Post by NethIafins » 01 Mar 2018, 17:23

Good reply. Still you should've ahelped and or disconnected

If in time it will take to process your jb appeal you won't get any new notes I think I can support this getting lifted
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Re: Arbs second medical job ban appeal

Post by Arbs » 04 Mar 2018, 09:47

Hey. Thanks for the time, replies and support.

Regarding the note about the CT ID, in context it was somewhat confusing as the cargo crew that round had been killed by a hunter on board. After having to put up with around seven marines trespassing and looting the area I was asked by the CMP to help out over there to prevent more trespassing. Seeing he did something similar, I thought I could help in like that. But then again, I wasn't so sure about it and I should've ahelped it, so my mistake on that part.

On another note, I purposely waited longer than than thirty days from the last appeal, up until I felt confident enough in the understanding of the rules and the dos and don'ts of this community and server, so to hopefully not have to show up in the appeals subsection again. I don't think I have much else to add, apart from a promise that I'll do my best to avoid getting any warnings or notes from now on.
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Re: Arbs second medical job ban appeal

Post by Skysoldier » 04 Mar 2018, 09:55

I do honestly believe he is a fine player despite some unfortunate sets of events that happened, I'm fine with getting this removed.
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Re: Arbs second medical job ban appeal

Post by Emeraldblood » 04 Mar 2018, 16:44

People seem to have some trust in you, and not all of your notes or with ill intent; that said, rules are still rules. Given your note history, I'll be willing to let you go with just doctor and we'll see how you do from there. If you can avoid any other negative notes, we can talk about getting CMP and Researcher lifted. If you don't know if something is against the rules, just ahelp if it's okay to do. You're not going to get in trouble for asking if something is against the rules before you do it.
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Re: Arbs second medical job ban appeal

Post by Arbs » 05 Mar 2018, 16:43

I only find it fair. Thank you, if that's the case. Will keep that advice in mind.
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Re: Arbs second medical job ban appeal

Post by Emeraldblood » 07 Mar 2018, 10:19

We'll lift Doctor for the time being. If you can go the next thirty days without getting any bad notes and we can talk about getting Researcher and CMP lifted. Hopefully next month we can look back on your notes and not have any negative notes to go over.
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