LordZalgo's Permanent Ban Appeal Part 3: Revenge of the Boots

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LordZalgo's Permanent Ban Appeal Part 3: Revenge of the Boots

Post by Zalgo » 13 Mar 2018, 01:51

Your Byond ID: LordZalgo

Character Name: Johnathan Hall

Type Of Ban (Job-ban (include the job), Timed Ban, Permaban): Permaban

Admin who banned you (if known): Mordrehel

Total Ban Duration: Time Immemorial

Remaining Duration: Ad Infinitum

What other servers do you play on?: /tg/ mostly.

Are you now or have you been banned on any servers? Which ones?: Yog, that one time.

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned): L10FEB17 - ERP

Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable):
viewtopic.php?f=87&t=11073
viewtopic.php?t=16034

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc): Conflict! The High Council of Administration has been contacted from the Outer Rim by the little-known Lord Zalgo in the midst of internal turmoil and unrest. The Chancellor's Right Hand has been removed from their position, upsetting the political balance held assuredly for years. Whilst the High Council works diligently to restore order during these trying times, the exiled Lord establishes contact to their private chambers in the name of peace...

Howdy, everyone. Hopefully marking this as the endcap of a trilogy, I've returned with nothing but positive vibes and good intentions in order to perhaps see some sort of resolution to my exile, or at the very least the makings of one. I'd like to openly apologize to Emeraldblood and slc for my behavior in the second appeal thread; I realized about halfway through it that I was still harboring negative feelings about my situation and wasn't fully prepared to let bygones be bygones. I've since let go of those negative emotions after some self-analysis and believe I'm now capable of approaching this subject from my side without any ill will toward those that are only trying to help me. I understand if there are negative feelings held toward me, and I wouldn't ask you to simply let go of them. I only ask that you hear me out and perhaps consider setting them aside for but a moment, so we can all have a discussion from a positive and constructive place, and work out a solution that benefits us all.

If anyone is at all willing to take part in this, I would be more than happy to receive you.

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Re: LordZalgo's Permanent Ban Appeal Part 3: Revenge of the Boots

Post by Dumblike » 13 Mar 2018, 03:53

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Re: LordZalgo's Permanent Ban Appeal Part 3: Revenge of the Boots

Post by apophis775 » 14 Mar 2018, 15:25

We typically take a very strong stance on ERP and sexual content.
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Re: LordZalgo's Permanent Ban Appeal Part 3: Revenge of the Boots

Post by Zalgo » 14 Mar 2018, 19:38

I understand that. For a game that welcomes an underage audience, it's only natural that any behavior that could get you into some serious trouble would be retaliated against with heavy penalties. You've got to make sure outside agencies know you're cracking down on it, after all. There's potential for a discussion about mandatory minimums and heavy penalties as deterrents, but it might be just a tad much for something like this.

What I did was stupid and potentially harmful to your server's reputation, and I don't blame anyone but myself for it. It was a moment of anger in which I let my self-control slip, and it led to my exile. I'm willing to accept responsibility for my actions with no strings attached. However, I would very much like to return, and I feel that a gradual re-introduction to the server could be a potential solution that satisfies us both. Conflict is a certainty on a server like Colonial Marines, but if we worked to minimize it for a probationary period, perhaps I can prove that I will not become a repeat offender. I would be more than happy to return with roles directly involved in surface combat and combat in general blocked off until such a time that you are confident enough that I'm unlikely to cause trouble while directly involved in the thick of things. Being involved in direct confrontation on the server was rather uncommon of me to begin with; I generally played as Military Police or other roles that weren't directly involved in combat, so being confined to them for a period of time deemed appropriate would be acceptable to me, in order to minimize the risk of negative outbursts until I've proven myself.

I know I wasn't well-known or anything, so there's nobody out there rooting for me and individual players on the server are a dime a dozen with the numbers you pull these days. You didn't even need to humor this with a response, so I appreciate that you did; it tells me that there's potential for an agreement here that we can both be happy with. I'm not here to cause trouble, I assure you. I'd just like to try to prove myself as someone that is, at the very least, well-mannered enough to not cause any further trouble for you or your staff team. To that end, I'm willing to work with you to set terms and limits in order to ease any fears that I'll relapse into this behavior again, as well as present myself to you as an individual you can eventually trust to keep any negativity to themselves. If you have anything in mind, feel free to lay it on me. I know it's not going to be a simple or easy matter, and I only hope that we can work out a point to start from so I can begin to demonstrate desirable behavior and hopefully incorporate the positive aspects of my personality into the rounds I'm involved in to have a positive impact on others.

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Re: LordZalgo's Permanent Ban Appeal Part 3: Revenge of the Boots

Post by Emeraldblood » 02 Apr 2018, 11:20

How long had you been playing CM prior to getting yourself banned in one fell swoop?
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Re: LordZalgo's Permanent Ban Appeal Part 3: Revenge of the Boots

Post by Zalgo » 02 Apr 2018, 15:55

It's hard to know for sure, honestly. I made this forum account back in August of 2016 since I had been planning on applying for a Predator role a few months later, and I think I'd been playing on and off for a couple months or so prior to that, so I'd guess around June-July 2016? That'd come to around 6-7 months. Wasn't consecutive play, but I'd get on semi-regularly under a few different characters before the incident.

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Re: LordZalgo's Permanent Ban Appeal Part 3: Revenge of the Boots

Post by Emeraldblood » 04 Apr 2018, 13:40

We'll look into the message. If you were at least playing in the past without causing problems, it will give you at least a small boost in your percentage to get this lifted.
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Re: LordZalgo's Permanent Ban Appeal Part 3: Revenge of the Boots

Post by Zalgo » 04 Apr 2018, 13:53

Sure, it's in a screenshot on the original appeal. All I'm asking for is the opportunity to prove myself to be above that kind of thing now.

I'd generally main MP in the past and try to be of some use on the ship during the operation. Restocking vendors with all the left-out equipment, chatting up rescued survivors and prisoners to alleviate their boredom, et cetera. Doubt anyone remembers me, though, so take that as you will.

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Re: LordZalgo's Permanent Ban Appeal Part 3: Revenge of the Boots

Post by Emeraldblood » 04 Apr 2018, 20:26

Just gonna say, idk why you even felt the need to say something so stupid to get banned. Did you ever get another server to vouch for you?
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Re: LordZalgo's Permanent Ban Appeal Part 3: Revenge of the Boots

Post by Zalgo » 04 Apr 2018, 21:32

I was just generally prone to raging and didn't keep myself under control after getting taunted by my captor. Ain't that a kick in the head?

I'm afraid I haven't played much SS13 ever since. There've been a few multiple-day stretches when I've gotten back into it, but vanilla's just not really my thing anymore. And just like people here don't know me, I doubt anyone elsewhere knows me either. I don't exactly go for high-profile roles, so I doubt anyone in a server's staff or otherwise is ever keeping much of an eye on me. Can't exactly get a valid opinion from someone else if they don't know anything about who's asking, so I haven't really considered it. I suppose that's why I'm just hoping to get back into it with some restricted roles, because I know there's no surefire way to convince y'all that I'm making an honest effort to stay in control other than getting in there and letting folks see for themselves.

The only server I've really ever been known to a decent degree would be Archangel, and, well...rest in peace.

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Re: LordZalgo's Permanent Ban Appeal Part 3: Revenge of the Boots

Post by Emeraldblood » 05 Apr 2018, 21:42

Maybe Apop will be willing to give ya another shot, but I can't say for certain myself. ERP is pretty serious and this is flat out ERP. Determination and age are about all you got going for ya, it seems. We'll see how far it takes ya.
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Re: LordZalgo's Permanent Ban Appeal Part 3: Revenge of the Boots

Post by Zalgo » 05 Apr 2018, 22:05

Aye, I appreciate the honesty. I know it won't be easy to build a rapport, even if I do get the second chance. Big Boss has to hedge his bets when it comes to something that could get the feds involved if it wasn't dealt with quickly and harshly, after all. Maybe my word's enough, maybe not. It's an uphill battle I'm willing to see through.

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Post by apophis775 » 26 Apr 2018, 14:31

Yeah, this is pretty much 100% ERP and I'm not sure it's something we'd be willing to lift a ban from.
The entire point of banning for ERP messages is so people take the rule seriously, so we typically almost NEVER lift them, and we've never lifted any for something as graphic as this one.
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Re: LordZalgo's Permanent Ban Appeal Part 3: Revenge of the Boots

Post by Zalgo » 26 Apr 2018, 15:12

Yeah, I know it's bad. Beyond bad. I know you've gotta set a standard for everybody else to stick with, too. You don't really gain anything from granting me any clemency, either, so believe me, I know the kind of position I'm trying to negotiate from. Ultimately, I've said what I wanted to, and I meant it, for whatever that's worth to you. I let some salt slip through in the worst way, I felt stupid about it then, I feel stupid about it now, and I'm gonna feel stupid about it in the years to come. I didn't mean to hurt any feelings or rock any boats, I just vented my frustration and got what was coming to me. I've been workin' on it, doing my best to keep positive when I get frustrated so I don't act like a manchild, and I'll give an honest effort of it if I do get that get out of jail free card. But, I know how unlikely that is, so no hard feelings if it doesn't go my way. You've got a reputation to keep, and you probably don't want to take the gamble on this one. I just figured I'd put those dice in your hand one last time, see if I could make it worth your while somewhere down the line; make some kind of positive impact, if the opportunity arose. I wouldn't wanna spit in your face after getting a second chance, after all.

Anyway, you do what you've gotta do. I just appreciate getting the honest chance, after acting like a prick last time.

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Re: LordZalgo's Permanent Ban Appeal Part 3: Revenge of the Boots

Post by apophis775 » 01 May 2018, 13:54

I'm gonna have to go with denied for now.

If we started lifting ERP bans for something so graphic, we'd be overwhelmed with people who were not as graphic complaining.
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