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Perma Appeal #4!

Post by MayorOfKenya » 16 May 2018, 05:26

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Character Name: Alexandria "Allie" Krieger

Type Of Ban (Job-ban, Timed Ban, Permaban): Permaban

Admin who banned you (if known): ElDefaultio

Total Ban Duration: 10080 -> Perma

Remaining Duration: n/a

What other servers do you play on? AuroraStation, YogStation, Paradise

Are you now or have you been banned on any of them? No.

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned): ERP. M27SEP17. Perma.

Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable): viewtopic.php?f=87&t=15004&p=162646 , viewtopic.php?t=15637, viewtopic.php?t=16438

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc)

Hello!

Thanks for taking the time to read yet another attempt at myself to land in probation. Yes, it's my fourth attempt, as I am about to hit the 1 year mark of my previous ban in a few. I won't soften any of you up with a sob story or anything like that, it was clear that I violated a clear and concise rule that results in a no-mercy permaban. I have, in my previous three appeals, have already admitted to this fault, and have generally been put down easy each time. I respect the decisions made by all high-ranking officials, and would like to add that I am not expecting mercy or any of the sort because of my previous action. I believe that they have the servers best intention in mind, and that I am just another random rulebreaking individual. If possible, I would just request (if i have any power to do so haha) any new staff to please read my previous appeals, I put my heart into those.

So why have I returned?

The answer is simple, I have returned yet again to try my lucky hand at trying to get the perma lifted/on probation. To any new moderator reading this, yes, I have blatantly committed ERP. I won't defend myself. What I have done is pretty much a "degenerate" (as I quote some moderators) type of roleplay that I don't condone/stamp out any chance I see now. My time at Paradise as TRIAGE-06 or ZERO-06 (I hope some of you recognize that) can hopefully lead you all to believe that I am not a griefer or ERP'er. In fact, during my permaban, i've systematically dismantled anyone who tries any type of ERP, and have reformed myself for the better. Of course, it doesn't mean much coming from my own words- I need proof. All I have right now is my Paradise character name, but I assure you it has not recieved a single ban. I treat every server as if I was on probation, because I know one day I'll have to type up this application again, and everything that is done will always come to light.

VOUCHER FOR PARADISE https://imgur.com/a/ALkhFco

VOUCHER FOR AURORASTATION! c: https://imgur.com/a/Vhtqta9

I have exactly one hundred and one hours of gameplay, which is a lot, and the only two notes of recent involved a bombing (which I asked for permissions for AND did not get banned for, but for some reason I got noted, and tazing a criminal as an Internal Affairs Agent) But everything is there, uncut and unfiltered. Definitely no ERP of any lewd kind or any sort, as I generally spend time helping new players and having fun.


Everyone that has previously read my apps knows how much I would like to return to the server and help out. I've even made my previous claims clear as to what I want to do once I return. In truth, I'm finding it harder to write about something that I should put here, because i've put my all into the last few apps. I don't want to lose hope, but at the same time I know the admins will make the right decision, appealed or not. To any new people reading this, I know you will make the right call as well. I'm sorry to be able to have my first impression to you guys as an ERPer, but the circumstances don't allow me any other way. A part of me will keep trying regardless, because I believe and enjoy CM to it's fullest. I hope to one day return back to the server and make roleplay the right way, and become a staunch advocate against the wrong types.

I know you all are busy, and that perma apps aren't really a priority (for good reason) so then I thank you wholeheartedly for taking the time to read this app. I hold no grudge or ill-will against any current or previous opinions/facts listed on this thread, so please feel free to speak your mind in full about my perma here. I am also willing to answer ANY questions the staff may need to fully process this app again.

Thank you!
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Re: Perma Appeal #4!

Post by Sleepy Retard » 16 May 2018, 08:08

Go get a vouch from the paradise mins to show that you haven't done anything erp related or eighteen plus.

Words from yourself are not enough to actually prove you don't do that stuff anymore, and when I saw the logs in action before I banned you back in September or whenever, you'd definitely need a vouch from another servers admin base.
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Re: Perma Appeal #4!

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Re: Perma Appeal #4!

Post by MayorOfKenya » 16 May 2018, 14:59

El Defaultio wrote:
16 May 2018, 08:08
Go get a vouch from the paradise mins to show that you haven't done anything erp related or eighteen plus.

Words from yourself are not enough to actually prove you don't do that stuff anymore, and when I saw the logs in action before I banned you back in September or whenever, you'd definitely need a vouch from another servers admin base.
EDIT: Updated with a voucher! Thanks for the heads up!

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Re: Perma Appeal #4!

Post by awan » 17 May 2018, 12:08

I took a look at that voucher you say. I do have a problem with it saying that you have recent notes and I wonder what they consider recent.
If you got permission for the bombing someone has to be able to confirm that because they do state it as recent. I do not know the inner workings of paradise and why you did not know you got a note for that. (I always try to pm someone if I note them) But if they have logs like we do they should be able to confirm that that note was an accident.

Next up you list 3 servers you play a lot on. But only got a voucher from your third. What about the other 2? If we were to ask them about you what would they say? (Do know that if I have to ask and it is negative it comes across 5 times worse compared to if you would be honest with me. And that more vouchers helps a lot.)

Also, erp does not get lifted at all. And that goes triple if you were a willing participant in actual erp and not just posting stuff. And I went to the old posts and you were.
You would litterly be one of the first if not the first who would have a ban like this lifted.

You did something very stupid and I think you realize this and payed for it. You made 4 appeals and that shows effort I hope you will put the same amount of effort into following the rules. I am a fan of second chances and in favor of a probation but only if you are honest about your behaviour on the other servers.
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Re: Perma Appeal #4!

Post by Skysoldier » 17 May 2018, 13:04

I'm going to have the exact same stance as last time, this type of ERP wasn't light-hearted joke of copypasta, it was legit full on ERP.

But this time, well, more so than few other times, I think you have put on some effort and you apparently have a vouch from one of the other servers.

I'm inclined to believe that you would probably not do this again, and are being genuine about it.

but still, I'll stay on neutral, maybe if you can get vouched on other servers maybe.
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Re: Perma Appeal #4!

Post by MayorOfKenya » 17 May 2018, 15:26

Thank you both for your inputs! I'm being 100% honest. My voucher that I posted is uncut and pure, and anything I've done wrong, I would hope to god they would tell me. I understand the gravity and weight of my offense, and that even the slightest infraction can turn my appeal upside down. Yes, it's true, I have played on those three that I have listed, but the gameplay time for yogstation is incredibly insignificant. In fact, those servers really din't fit my niche anyways, so most times I would just ahelp and cyro out. I figured myself to just get a voucher from my most played and most recent, which was Paradise, which is 100% my reasoning.

Yogstation I have played on, but only for a solid 30 minutes before I logged, but I still technically played on it, so I just listed it, im 100% honest on this one, no notes there. Aurorastation is another, I will get a voucher soon!

It's a strange situation, really, maybe it was a new mod who noted me. I SWEAR I ahelped for permission too. Regardless, we all know how big bombs can be- and I din't get banned for it! Besides that, out of all those hours, only those two were clocked on me. The IAA tazering was a grey-line thing too, all I did was pick up a tazer off the floor when an antag was hammering a sec, and then tazed him for self defense after, but apparently it wasn't allowed x.x I still took the noting anyways, I din't mind it too much because the antag was complaining about being out-robusted by an IAA. I dropped the tazer afterwards. Still, it's a note on my end that I accept :c

EDIT: Updated with voucher from Aurora! 100% uncut!
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Re: Perma Appeal #4!

Post by Emeraldblood » 18 May 2018, 13:43

I may have asked this in the past, but how long had you been on the server prior to the perma?
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Re: Perma Appeal #4!

Post by MayorOfKenya » 18 May 2018, 16:37

Emeraldblood wrote:
18 May 2018, 13:43
I may have asked this in the past, but how long had you been on the server prior to the perma?
Quite a fair bit, I was known for being primarily a researcher/medical main. If my memory serves me well, I may have played for about half a month to a month prior to the ban. I do know its at least more than two weeks, but my memory is pretty hazy on that. It's been a while, to be fair

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Re: Perma Appeal #4!

Post by Emeraldblood » 21 May 2018, 17:57

I'm sure you've heard it a million times by now, but ERP is obviously a very serious crime here. I don't know if Apop will want to lift this until we get closer to the year mark, but given other servers have vouched for you, I'd be fine with letting you return under a very strict probation period. Now still may be too early for me to fully support this, but I think I could fully support you by July or later.
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Re: Perma Appeal #4!

Post by MayorOfKenya » 21 May 2018, 23:13

Emeraldblood wrote:
21 May 2018, 17:57
I'm sure you've heard it a million times by now, but ERP is obviously a very serious crime here. I don't know if Apop will want to lift this until we get closer to the year mark, but given other servers have vouched for you, I'd be fine with letting you return under a very strict probation period. Now still may be too early for me to fully support this, but I think I could fully support you by July or later.
Thank you for that! If I am placed on probation I promise to make it up to you guys.

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Re: Perma Appeal #4!

Post by VitorThauma » 27 May 2018, 21:57

As I said in your last appeal, I think that you ready to get back. I believe that the ban time made you realise that you did something really bad and isn't acceptable. I'm up for a strict probation.
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Re: Perma Appeal #4!

Post by awan » 08 Jun 2018, 06:01

I am going to give my opinion on this.
My support is given for this appeal. I hope that we will have no further issues with you and that you can get a chance to become a member of our community in good standing.
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Re: Perma Appeal #4!

Post by MayorOfKenya » 08 Jun 2018, 22:14

Thanks for the inputs both of you! I will make the best out of everything I get.

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Re: Perma Appeal #4!

Post by Adralimas » 10 Jun 2018, 20:02

Two vouchers and a not terrible note history?, Yeah i'm down for giving them a strict probation.
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Re: Perma Appeal #4!

Post by Sir Lordington » 10 Jun 2018, 20:08

It's been some time and it looks like you have been building a good rapport on other servers. You seem to have put quite a bit of effort into this so I'd say you deserve probation.
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Re: Perma Appeal #4!

Post by Emeraldblood » 10 Jun 2018, 21:20

This will be accepted. You'll have a probation set from three months after the ban itself is lifted (Rahl will inform you when it's lifted). Anything remotely close to breaking ERP/18+ will get you banned for good. It may take a few days for Rahl to lift the ban, so wait until he is able to get around to it.

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Re: Perma Appeal #4!

Post by Rahlzel » 16 Jun 2018, 16:27

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Re: Perma Appeal #4!

Post by Emeraldblood » 18 Jun 2018, 13:18

Under probation until September 16th for ERP. Anything remotely close to this will result in the perma being reinstated.

Update: Probation passed
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