Pedr007 SL Job Ban Appeal

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Pedr007 SL Job Ban Appeal

Post by Pedr007 » 20 Jul 2018, 11:31

Your Byond ID: Pedr007

Character Name: Frank Krake

Type Of Ban (Job-ban (include the job), Timed Ban, Permaban): Job Ban SL

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned): Something Something low RP borderline grief. Pull exactl log please, thanks.

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc):

Hi,

Ive been banned for "Low RP" while playing SL. This ban is plain wrong and unjustified, you can see so by pulling my chat logs from 1 or 2 hours before the ban was applied.

I did 1. Gear Check 2. Assigned FT Roles 3. Combat Patrol around FOB for security
I also did: Ignore the extremely annoying XO that instead of delegating tasks to squads and doing his job, insisted on spamming my squad comms channels to assert his dominance via chat.

Pull my chat logs, read up on em, this is not low RP and this is not griefing. After MPs were sent down to arrest my by the XO, Ive simply decided to leave the computer and do something else.

Furthermore Id like to recommend job banning that XO or at least giving him a warning, Ive ran into XO and CO players recently that are playing just like him, spam voice channels and banter and bitch rather than delegating tasks like grown up individuals. One round Ive had a CO chase me for 30 mins across Almayer, I was CE mind you, lecturing me on how shit I am and what not. Meanwhile the situation on the ground went to shit because he didnt do his job. No idea how the whitelist works, but your standard is definitely too low.

Thank you for your time

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Pedr007

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Re: Pedr007 SL Job Ban Appeal

Post by x31stOverlord » 20 Jul 2018, 11:37

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Yautja - Zathar-Veraz Wolfgang Schneider - CO, CL, SO, XO, Synthetic Unit Joshua Roscoe Barrett - Spec, SGCMP, MP Ancient Empress, Ancient Runner (69)
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Re: Pedr007 SL Job Ban Appeal

Post by Pedr007 » 20 Jul 2018, 11:51

x31stOverlord wrote:
20 Jul 2018, 11:37
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Re: Pedr007 SL Job Ban Appeal

Post by awan » 20 Jul 2018, 15:12

Well, before I even look into any of this 8 notes in a month. 6 unrelated to this incident. And you are saying almost all of the notes are wrong?
Part of policy is to message the offender so you should know if you have been warned or stuff got noted down. Yet here you are claiming you did not?
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Re: Pedr007 SL Job Ban Appeal

Post by Pedr007 » 20 Jul 2018, 15:50

awan wrote:
20 Jul 2018, 15:12
Well, before I even look into any of this 8 notes in a month. 6 unrelated to this incident. And you are saying almost all of the notes are wrong?
Part of policy is to message the offender so you should know if you have been warned or stuff got noted down. Yet here you are claiming you did not?
It is very much possible that the guy applied an 1 hour ban on me and Ive disconnected for more than 1 hour without even knowing. I dont remember getting any messages or having trouble connecting, so I got no clue where that 1 hour ban note comes from and why. I have not been warned either. Havent seen the phrase "Consider this a warning, take this as a warning, youve been warned" or any logically related things either.

And yes, go figure, half the notes are wrong. This is why TG got a public log system lads, so people can SEARCH for the relevant logs and put them inside to prove their point of view. Now you got to pull the relevant logs yourself, with extra workload on your part. Sorry pal.

I swear to god, I did get a good conduct medal as XO and then all of a sudden I got a note saying im doing "low RP" as XO? For real?
Im just as baffled here as you are. Pull my chatlogs prior to the SL ban, youll find me doing some decent rp, gearcheck, assigning teams, etc.

And half the notes are for a meme character, Boris. And yes, He is Boris and he is retarded. Thats the whole idea of that character.

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Re: Pedr007 SL Job Ban Appeal

Post by x31stOverlord » 21 Jul 2018, 05:36

Alright, as the one who placed the job ban and 1 hour ban.

I was first alerted to you when one of the staff team made a comment in Msay about your potential antics being a little irate, at the time it was just passed off as an off hand comment and for a little while nothing further was said or done, once you were detained by the MPs, I received an Ahelp from one of the squad members in your squad who had complained about your behaviour the entire operation, ignoring orders because you didn't agree with them, making people charge into areas alone or into areas certain death awaited that were not ordered from command as you were ignoring them.

Once you were detained you had immediately gone SSD, that itself indicates to me that someone doesn't care enough about a role to play it to their full potential, it is one thing to be a bit of a lucky go wild leader and then try to pervert the course of a game by ignoring orders and trying to get your squad killed and then going SSD immediately upon getting arrested for the shenanigans.

Unfortunately, it doesn't paint a good light on the situation if you immediately log out rather than face consequences of your actions, as such my decision to job ban you from the SL role was made, you had caused a lot of issue with the marines operation, other members of staff were already not too happy about you but had decided to leave it as IC at the time they mentioned you, you then logged out whilst arrested and could not respond to my questions. I applied a 1 hour ban at the time as well, in case you tried to log back in to inform you of the situation having happened and allow you to come and express your story on the forums. The reason you didn't get any warnings of the ban being applied was the fact that you had already and immediately logged out after being arrested.

Could you please explain to us what exactly occurred in your own words whilst I retrieve logs when I get access to them?
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Re: Pedr007 SL Job Ban Appeal

Post by Pedr007 » 21 Jul 2018, 07:19

x31stOverlord wrote:
21 Jul 2018, 05:36


Could you please explain to us what exactly occurred in your own words whilst I retrieve logs when I get access to them?
I've already made my statement in the original post. I will now copy and paste it:

"Ive been banned for "Low RP" while playing SL. This ban is plain wrong and unjustified, you can see so by pulling my chat logs from 1 or 2 hours before the ban was applied.

I did 1. Gear Check 2. Assigned FT Roles 3. Combat Patrol around FOB for security
I also did: Ignore the extremely annoying XO that instead of delegating tasks to squads and doing his job, insisted on spamming my squad comms channels to assert his dominance via chat.

Pull my chat logs, read up on em, this is not low RP and this is not griefing. After MPs were sent down to arrest my by the XO, Ive simply decided to leave the computer and do something else. "

I dont have time to waste, which is why Im logging off or go afk frequently midgame or between games. Please dont make me repeat myself over and over. Pull the logs, read them. Everything IC related is in there.

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Re: Pedr007 SL Job Ban Appeal

Post by Tharinoma » 21 Jul 2018, 14:11

Hello Pedr007,

We do not allow players to appeal notes (besides a few for exceptionnal circumstances), just a FYI in case you did not know.

Logs of most of your interactions during that round :
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I also checked a few other logs, including private staff channels, adminhelps, deadchat, IC chats... I won't be posting all of that here.

From what I've gathered through this report, logs and discussion with staffmembers online during the round, the "low RP" qualification given to your actions during that round is very debatable. However, it transpires through the logs that many players really didn't appreciate your actions. Most if not all the references to you are completely negative that round. Add how you dealt with being arrested with the MPs, and your note history... It's completely understandable that the staff at that time considered a jobban.

It is also incontestable that you broke server rule 11, which literally warns you there's a high chance you will be jobbanned should you break it. Something you haven't bought up anywhere in this appeal.

Combined with your terrible attitude and the fact that you managed to accumulate so many notes in such a small period of time, some for blatantly breaking some simple rules, there is no way I can support this being lifted anytime soon.

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Re: Pedr007 SL Job Ban Appeal

Post by Imperator_Titan » 22 Jul 2018, 03:46

The amount of notes you've acquired this month is just something else. Thar already went over the main issue, so I'll just add to it. You really need to step it up, ahelp if you want to know if you're allowed to do a questionable thing or not if unsure and whatnot.

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Re: Pedr007 SL Job Ban Appeal

Post by Aceluke123 » 22 Jul 2018, 04:35

I have to add that considering the time period between this ban and the appeal time I would suggest this sit for a decent period (say 30 days) of no notes. As SL is a decently vital role in a round of CM.

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Re: Pedr007 SL Job Ban Appeal

Post by solidfury7 » 22 Jul 2018, 08:36

I remember this arrest quite well.

You were bothersome to command all round.,

You proceeded to throw away your headset, helmet and sprint towards the enemy as soon as you saw the MPs.

I remember your squad literally watching us haul away your SSD body and really not caring because you were such a liability due to your behaviour and attitude.

No support from me on this appeal.
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Re: Pedr007 SL Job Ban Appeal

Post by freemysoul » 23 Jul 2018, 15:12

Appeal Denied, Please re-appeal in a month.

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