WolfOrion - Timed Ban Appeal

[WolfOrion]

Your Byond ID: WolfOrion

Character Name: Makenzie 'Heretic' Kifer

Type Of Ban (Job-ban (include the job), Timed Ban, Permaban): Timed Ban

Admin who banned you (if known): imperatortitann

Total Ban Duration: 7 days

Remaining Duration: Slightly less than 7 days

What other servers do you play on? Citadel and TG, in the past.

Are you now or have you been banned on any servers? Which ones? Citadel, all self-requested bans due to personal issues I had, and have resolved since then.

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned): Well, I was banned for "Vore ERP with xenos"

Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable): N/A

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc):

I joke about vore and xenophilia, since it's easy and fun to ruffle people's feathers a bit with it, but I have never roleplayed any actual scenes involving vore or erotic content otherwise on CM. I've only ever joked about it in deadchat (the saltmine) and shitposting, I think; I don't ever talk seriously about it. The only evidence I can think of since it was a big deal a few days back was these four messages that were posted over and over in shitposting. The statements are true, but it was also said half-jokingly since someone else brought up the topic, and I didn't mean anything more beyond those statements. I'm mature enough and a decent enough person, that even though I flaunt my degeneracy for the fun of it, rules are rules, and I never had any plan or desire to take it beyond joking. At least I hope I seem like a reasonable person.

I assume that since ERP is in the ban text, a permanent ban is on the way, which feels a little dramatic, and well, sad. But ultimately, I will tone it down or stop entirely, if I'm allowed to; but if I'm shown the door, I understand.

(The evidence I presume)
https://i.imgur.com/jFBLCj5.png

[Imperator_Titan]

Notes:

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Banned |Duration: 10080 minutes|Reason: Vore ERP with xenos, filing for perma. Appeal this on the forums. | Fri, July 27th of 2018

Banned |Duration: 10080 minutes|Reason: Previous ban did not stick. Vore ERP with xenos, appeal on the forums. | Sat, July 28th of 2018

[JennerH]

As WolfOrion said, they didn't actually vore ERP with any xenos, just said that they like vore in dchat. I think a stern talking to was much more appropriate rather than jumping straight to perma on this one.

[Archie700]

As a character witness, I can say that WolfOrion hasn't actually done ERP from what I have seen whenever they get captured. They have admitted to surrendering to xenos, but that's allowed and they haven't actually done much to assist xenos in harming other marines whenever they get captured.

[Slduggy]

Here as a character witness. As much as Wolforion's Character puts a bad taste in my mouth, I have played many rounds with them and they have never crossed the line.

As vile as their character is to me, their roleplay with xenos that I have seen is not eighteen plus.

[Lumdor]

You should sit on this ban, why do you think it's funny to joke about those things on our server, continuously?

We've quite a lot of people that are under-age on our server, and we don't need them seeing you joke about vore and xenophilia.

I'd say you should sit on this ban for the 7 days.

[NethIafins]

agreed about leaving it as is, no perma applied.

I hope 7 days is enough for you to reconsider what is appropriate

[driecg36]

Yeah as much of a degenerate as you are I feel like a perma is excessive for something that wasn't explicitly ERP, but the seven days are more than fair.

[CaptainYankee]

Here as character witness. While Kifer does obviously have a vore fetish, they've never at any point been explicit, unless there are logs showing otherwise the 7 day ban is beyond ludicrous and a perma-ban would be outrageous. This player is a lot milder than many other characters. Go check #shitposting, look at the people who are upset over this, and question whether or not this was brought up in good faith, or just as an attempt to stretch rules to get someone banned. If this is bannable based on what we have logged here, we need a serious re-write of the rules for clarity.

[Tharinoma]

Considering your completely clean note history, a seven day ban might not be necessary. Please do understand that no 18+ content means none at all, and we take these rulebreaks very seriously here.

Then there is the fact that this is extremely low RP

I would be fine with the ban being removed as soon as a manager gets to this, but the punishment was not particularly harsh considering the offence.

Im sure you can play CM properly and enjoy it with the rest of us without bringing any of these unwanted topics.

[Herac]

I decided to make a forum account to post as a character witness for Kifer.

I've played a number of rounds with WolfOrion and spent a fair amount of time talking to them in dchat, I have never seen them ERP and I have not seen the incidents shown here or context around them.

In my personal view they are a positive part of CM and a good role player, the only person I've ever seen who will try to surrender when faced with multiple xenos (but they'll fight right up until then). I have never seen them get angry or salty even if someone else was rude to them.

Having said that, I do agree with Lumdor; CM has many minors who play on it, and no ERP content should be allowed. Imagine if you have a younger brother or sister, or younger cousin - what would you be comfortable with them seeing if they played on CM? I wouldn't want to have to explain what vore or xenophilia is.

Overall I have no doubt that WolfOrion will continue to be a positive player and if told to steer clear of anything even remotely 18+ they'll listen.

[Aceluke123]

I'm personally fine with a 7-day ban on this player. It's not completely explicit vore ERP, though it is still something that can be seen in a very negative light which is what caused the problem in the first place.
A perma is a bit much though.

[I_Solve_Practical_Problems]

Posting as a witness as well. I was present when they said the offending line in dchat and given that in-context, devouring as a mechanic was being discussed by other players, it seemed like an off-color joke although not necessarily explicit or obscene.

However, I think the issue became much more exacerbated when people began spamming what they said in dchat as well as in discord, and while that's no justification to turn a blind eye to this, it publicized the issue and seemed to be designed to stir drama when a simple ahelp would have been just as effective.

[slc97]

I'm going to deny the perma request I had put on you. That being said, you will no longer surrender to xenos, injure other Marines so that you can be captured by xenos, nor will you enact any RP of your creepy vore fetish on CM. If the reports continue, another permaban will be placed with no ifs, ands, or buts.