Please release Job Ban

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basejumper123
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Please release Job Ban

Post by basejumper123 » 29 Jul 2018, 20:07

Your Byond ID: TacticalMuteInbound

Character Name: Ben Mitchell (Or Random)

Type Of Ban (Job-ban (include the job), Timed Ban, Permaban): Job-Ban (MP Roles)

Admin who banned you (if known): Unknown

Total Ban Duration: Roughly 1 Year

Remaining Duration: Presently Indefinite

What other servers do you play on? Paradise, Yogstation from time to time

Are you now or have you been banned on any servers? Which ones? No

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned): I used excessive force against a marine who was resisting arrest. I maintain that this was unintentional - although lack of understanding of game mechanics was a factor.

Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable): viewtopic.php?f=87&t=15698

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc): I think I have a much better understanding of the game mechanics at this point and have read the wiki extensively. Please release this ban - I would greatly appreciate it.

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Re: Please release Job Ban

Post by Ordukai » 30 Jul 2018, 02:32

It seems like you're doing the same thing before, where you're not playing much at all. Only 7 days in 2018, all within July. How did you gain a better understanding of the game mechanics during that time?
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Re: Please release Job Ban

Post by Kavlo » 30 Jul 2018, 06:02

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Re: Please release Job Ban

Post by Solarmare » 30 Jul 2018, 14:39

When can you actually use lethal force as an MP then?
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Re: Please release Job Ban

Post by basejumper123 » 30 Jul 2018, 20:06

Never under normal circumstances - only when authorized by the Chief MP and only against a suspect actively resisting arrest with lethal force.

Also - I don't think nobody ever contacted me about that last note - Pretty sure I never lied about my injuries and I was being operated on without anesthetic after being crabbed - so there's that.

I'd be interested to hear what would make you comfortable in terms of playtime - SS13 and CM are things I play on and off but I'm happy to make a more concerted effort if that would be needed.

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Re: Please release Job Ban

Post by Tharinoma » 30 Jul 2018, 20:12

I'd like to see you play consistently without breaking rules before we unban you from anything.
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Re: Please release Job Ban

Post by Aceluke123 » 30 Jul 2018, 20:15

Considering this ban is almost a year old I honestly think being unbanned from at least MP wouldn't cause very many problems. Only thing is the most recent note but that isn't very well related to MP.

I would be fine with MP jobban lift but not CMP, though any problems as MP leads to a jobban again.
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Re: Please release Job Ban

Post by Ordukai » 31 Jul 2018, 00:13

I'm not usually too concerned about playtime, except when it's dramatically low. Low playtime was mentioned in your last appeal, which is what brought it to my attention here. Since you said that part of the reason you got the ban in the first place was a lack of understanding of game mechanics, and that you were much more familiar with the game mechanics now, I followed that line of thought with my brief investigation and question.

Since you hadn't played at all for the first half of the year, I'm curious as to how you understand the game mechanics better. Just looking for a little elaboration, that's all.
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Re: Please release Job Ban

Post by basejumper123 » 31 Jul 2018, 21:24

Understood - when I say I've read the wiki I mean that I've read and understand much better the following topics:

- intent setting and their effects on how objects & weapons impact the target
- the inventory system and how to - for instance - apply handcuffs or a surgical mask to someone in a reasonable amount of time
- how to better manipulate a pulled individual and attach them to a bed, stretcher, sleeper etc...
- the effects of non-lethals and how they are to be applied

Additionally I now keep the wiki open to the tabs on the roles I am playing - so I can keep the procedures in my face at all times.

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Re: Please release Job Ban

Post by Ordukai » 31 Jul 2018, 23:29

Sounds good to me. Given how long ago it was and that you at least seem to have put more effort into learning this stuff, I think it would be fine to unjobban you from MP, myself. If you play a while longer, and put some time in with good behavior as an MP, you would then appeal the CMP ban in one month at minimum. That's assuming this MP unjobban is approved, of course. Otherwise you would re-appeal both after a month.
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Re: Please release Job Ban

Post by Sir Lordington » 02 Aug 2018, 11:56

We'll be lifting the MP ban. Play somewaht regularly this month without getting into trouble and then appeal the CMP ban.

Resolved - MP ban lifted.
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