Hempukonsito's ban appeal

[hempukon]

Your Byond ID:Hempukonsito

Character Name: i don't remember, i use random names most of the time.

Type Of Ban (Job-ban (include the job), Timed Ban, Permaban): permanent job ban on all command roles

Admin who banned you (if known): Imperator_Titan

Total Ban Duration: permanent

Remaining Duration: permanent

What other servers do you play on?

this is the only ss13 i play on, i've played in lebensraum, but i mostly play lifegame

Are you now or have you been banned on any servers? Which ones?

i may have a long LONG time ago when i played in hippiestation when admiral_hippie was the host, or in goonstation before the leak but i really don't think i was and i was, it was due to an accident.

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned):

I don't get any message when i log in. But when i got job banned, i remember it was because i wanted to try the laser gun in the ship because i've never seen in being used, i equipped the gun in the ship and asked a pilot if he could use it while i used the tac binos near the xeno siege that was happening in our job, i used the binos as far from the fob as possible (and as near to the xenos as possible), when the pilot used the gun first, it noticed it had a very long range, which is what i wanted to know, but the second/third blast not only had a different angle than the first one, but also hit one or two mariens that were close to the outer walls of the fob and they got hit and killed instantly. I was the pilot of the almayer and i was transporting marines with it, we were about to evacuate from the prison (it was prison map). I think it was a bit unfair that i was job banned from all command roles due to a friendly fire incident that happened once due to my ignorance of a gun that almosts never gets used, i mean, if the pilot lauched a high explosive missile, this wouldn't have happened because i aimed with the tac binos very far, but because its angle was variable and its range very long, it friendly fired on some marines.

Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable):

this is my first appeal

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc):

[ThesoldierLLJK]

Notes:

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Banned |Duration: 1440 minutes|Reason: Griefer - Prime a cleaner grenade among his fellow teammates for no reason causing many deaths. subtle but obvious grief. | Sun, January 14th of 2018

Tried to kill himself because his "squad leader died". Warned. | Mon, May 7th of 2018

Banned |Duration: 4320 minutes|Reason: Griefer. CAS'd the FOB to test the effectiveness of the laser cannon. Husked two people immediately. | Thu, May 17th of 2018

Banned from Commander, Executive Officer, Staff Officer, Pilot Officer, Military Police, Corporate Liaison, Requisitions Officer, Chief Engineer, Chief Medical Officer, Chief MP - See above note. | Thu, May 17th of 2018

For clarification are you appealing the job bans, or a permanent ban?

[hempukon]

Notes:

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Banned |Duration: 1440 minutes|Reason: Griefer - Prime a cleaner grenade among his fellow teammates for no reason causing many deaths. subtle but obvious grief. | Sun, January 14th of 2018

Tried to kill himself because his "squad leader died". Warned. | Mon, May 7th of 2018

Banned |Duration: 4320 minutes|Reason: Griefer. CAS'd the FOB to test the effectiveness of the laser cannon. Husked two people immediately. | Thu, May 17th of 2018

Banned from Commander, Executive Officer, Staff Officer, Pilot Officer, Military Police, Corporate Liaison, Requisitions Officer, Chief Engineer, Chief Medical Officer, Chief MP - See above note. | Thu, May 17th of 2018

For clarification are you appealing the job bans, or a permanent ban?

Im appealing the job bans of the last note, they don't have expiration date and are permanent.

[ThesoldierLLJK]

Im appealing the job bans of the last note, they don't have expiration date and are permanent.

Ok then, more than likely you may have to choose certain roles you want to have an unban for.

I’m ok with you getting the lower support roles unbanned and you having another chance at this time.

[x31stOverlord]

It's a single job ban that was applied in one go, I believe lifting all these at once should not be an issue, especially seeing as there are no notes since May.

[hempukon]

i was banned from all command roles even thought the incident happened when i was a pilot, and i was banned from the game for a few days, kind of harsh for something that was not only an accident due to ignorance and that should've been handled in game by the millitary police. Yeah, the blast killed two marines, but it was friendly fire, it happens in real life, i had no intention to kill any marine.

[Mizari]

What I'm curious about is how you managed to CAS the FOB, surely this would mean another marine designated the target, bit iffy on this until more staff vote.

[hempukon]

What I'm curious about is how you managed to CAS the FOB, surely this would mean another marine designated the target, bit iffy on this until more staff vote.

I was on transport duty with the alamo on prison station, after almost 2 hours (i think) we were going to evacuate from the prison. About half an hour before, i talked with the normandy pilot about the use of the laser gun, he was doing CAS duty, but wasn't able to CAS a si gle time because no one requested support as far as i know but im not sure, anyways, i told him to use the laser gun to test its effectiveness while i was in the fob waiting for command to green light the evacuation, mid xeno siege i grabbed some binos that i got from the fob that no one was using, used them near the xenos and as far from the fob as possible and told the pilot to send a blast with the laser, like i said, the first one didn't hit anyone, but the second and third did, even thought i stopped aiming with the bioculars after the first blast, but the normandy pilot somehow was still able to keep blasting, i think that's a bug that is stillnpresent today (pilots can still CAS 5-7 seconds after you stop aiming with the binos)

[Mizari]

Alright, your still responsible for lasing the FOB, always a bad move unless you guys are swamped and literally leaving the planet. Irregardless of this, wait for more staff input, I'm still neutral for now.

[Solarmare]

"accident due to ignorance and that should've been handled in game by the millitary police. Yeah, the blast killed two marines"
While I'd this command ban could be lifted in part or whole, never actually use the military police can handle it as an excuse for grief or the like. Server rules come before anything else, while this may have been accidental given the effect of the laser cannon, staff handle the situation if it's what can seem a breach of the server rules.

[Tharinoma]

Note history is kinda bad but it's short and this was over a month ago.
+1

[hempukon]

"accident due to ignorance and that should've been handled in game by the millitary police. Yeah, the blast killed two marines"
While I'd this command ban could be lifted in part or whole, never actually use the military police can handle it as an excuse for grief or the like. Server rules come before anything else, while this may have been accidental given the effect of the laser cannon, staff handle the situation if it's what can seem a breach of the server rules.

I don't understand what led the admin that banned me jump to the conclusion that i maliciously played a round actively for almost two hours since its begining till the moment i was banned just to ruin other people's round and not think for a minute that it was possibly a legitimate friendly fire situation that happened by accident like i probably explained on the ahelps if i remember correctly, i even bet i said over the command radio to stop the CAS after i saw that the first blast went through the fob (not harming anyone) but i guess the CAS PO didn't react quick enough to stop it.

Anyways, in your opinion, don't you think it is quite harsh to not only ban me for three days, but also from half of the roles of the game permanently for something unrelated? (What relation has CMO skills have to do with PO skills?) i would understand the game ban plus the PO job ban, but the rest of them were overkill in my opinion.

Regarding to your claim, you are assuming that i griefed, i didn't, it was an accident but you can belive what you want. Today i played a round where a commander called beatrix (or someone in command) sent an incendiary warhead to an assault that happened in the solaris ridge's research lab, the warhead hit the wrong place hitting about eight marines and husking about two, i belive it was an accident because i saw the range finder green lazer hit about ten tiles south of where the warhead landed a fun fact about this round is, ed trevor was my buddy (imperator titan, the admin that banned me) i was the tank driver, he was the gunner, i think you've encountered many situations like this in your career that were handled by the MP and not the administration, why didn't i get the same treatment?

[Solarmare]

You should go over the post again with more reading comprehension because it already h as the answer to your question.

[freemysoul]

Ban Appeal Granted, CO, SO, CL, PO, RO, CMO lifted, Remaining bans (XO, MP, CMP and CE) can be appealed on the 20th of September.

Resolved and Locked.