Friendlydad7 Appeal #23,439

[Friendlydad7]

Your Byond ID: Friendlydad7/Galaxor

Character Name: N/A

Type Of Ban (Job-ban (include the job), Timed Ban, Permaban): Permaban

Admin who banned you (if known): Host

Total Ban Duration: Permanent

Remaining Duration: Forever

What other servers do you play on? DMCA, STALKER 13, ENG Unofficial Fallout 13 Station, Baystation, Halo: Space Station Evolved, Lebenstraum Alpha

Are you now or have you been banned on any servers? Which ones? Pretty much every server at one point or another, but i'm unbanned from a decent amount now.

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned): N15MAY2015 Multikeyer.

Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable): N/A, I cannot find them.

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc): Thee's not much more I can say in this appeal that I haven't said in my previous ones. I've been banned since May of 2015, 3 years and some months. In that time I have not been allowed a chance to prove that I can adhere to the rules on the server and contribute to the round/RP/gameplay experience in a meaningful way. Once again, the decision is up to you guys.

[Sir Lordington]

Galaxor:

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Fired off a napalm grenade in Sulaco medbay, killing 5 players. When questioned, they claimed it was accidental, caused by lag whilst they were reorganising objects in their backpack and accidentally set off the grenade. Week ban and recommending a perma ban from next offense. | Thu, May 7th of 2015

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You also forgot to mention
Niggaluikang:

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Warned for being on Nostromo as LO. | Tue, May 12th of 2015

Please jobban from LO, went to Nostromo, threw two genades was arrested, broke out of brig and threatened to kill MP's. | Tue, May 12th of 2015

Warned for imporper name. | Thu, May 14th of 2015

Burned half the Nostromo down with a banned grenade type. Than proceeds to say Oh you can't ban me I will just evade and proceeds to annoy dead chat with it bragging about the grenade and how he can't be banned | Fri, May 15th of 2015

Centrox

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Banned from Logistics Officer - Unable to properly assign people IDs | Tue, May 12th of 2015

Reason: Bully, disrespectful to staff, Toxic player. Feel free to return when your not a dick.) | Tue, May 12th of 2015

If he argues or fights with staff in the future, Permaban him. I do not tolerate bullies or toxic players. | Tue, May 12th of 2015

Your previous appeals, must've taken me all of twenty seconds to find them:
http://www.cm-ss13.com/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=6280
http://www.cm-ss13.com/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=8173

I've put more effort in my reply than you have in your appeal, so tell me why should we unban you?

[Friendlydad7]

Galaxor:

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Fired off a napalm grenade in Sulaco medbay, killing 5 players. When questioned, they claimed it was accidental, caused by lag whilst they were reorganising objects in their backpack and accidentally set off the grenade. Week ban and recommending a perma ban from next offense. | Thu, May 7th of 2015

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You also forgot to mention
Niggaluikang:

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Centrox

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Banned from Logistics Officer - Unable to properly assign people IDs | Tue, May 12th of 2015

Reason: Bully, disrespectful to staff, Toxic player. Feel free to return when your not a dick.) | Tue, May 12th of 2015

If he argues or fights with staff in the future, Permaban him. I do not tolerate bullies or toxic players. | Tue, May 12th of 2015

Your previous appeals, must've taken me all of twenty seconds to find them:
http://www.cm-ss13.com/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=6280
http://www.cm-ss13.com/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=8173

I've put more effort in my reply than you have in your appeal, so tell me why should we unban you?

I'm sorry, I forget about other ckeys i've had. I haven't used all but 2 of them in the past year-two years (Friendlydad7 as Admin and Galaxor on pubs) I probably have a few others that i'm no longer aware of, it is true, I used to be a major shitter and griefer with multiple ckeys and evasion attempts, that I will not deny one bit. As for the effort part, i've put so much effort into my previous attempts citing multiple reasons and ways that i've changed or trying to explain how I wouldn't act anything less than the standard set by the rules here only to feel like i've had my face spit on and my appeal laughed at. It's true when I say I have no ill intentions with this server and that I wish to play here to play here and not to grief, but I have not had any chance to do so in the 3 year span that I have been banned for, other things get cited such as previous bans with servers that have nothing to do with this one, and let it be known that my actions on other servers then would not affect my actions on this server, and still wouldn't. I am only banned from one server that I play on currently and it is a temp ban for misunderstanding of the rules (Baystation), it is a Heavy RP server and although the admin agreed that my character was in the right in RP reasons, he did not agree that I used a weapon, if I had not used a weapon then I would have not been banned. I do not mean to seem like i'm coming off as low effort and careless, it is that i've appealed so much with the same result each and every time that I do not have too much hope for this one either, as I expect to be met with the same results as prior appeals, but hey, one can keep trying until i'm banned from making appeals.

Edit: Matter of fact, I think I have more appeals on a different account on this forum. I can't remember if the username is something Luigi related or something to do with Galaxor. I'll check right now because I swore I had more than two previous appeals.

Edit: I can't remember for the life of me the name I potentially had and cannot find the other account, although I am positive it is something Luigi related.

[Sir Lordington]

Under which ckey do you play on Baystation? Are there any servers that can vouch for your good behaviour?

[Friendlydad7]

Under which ckey do you play on Baystation? Are there any servers that can vouch for your good behaviour?

I use Galaxor for every server. Halo station may be able to, I am white listed for a role or two there, although I don't play there much. STALKER Station may as I have been picked to be in a couple events, but I am not sure about that either. The only one I have played on consistently since May has been Unofficial Fallout 13 Station.

Edit: Uh, i'll try again later this year or next year. I got banned from Halo Station, the server reset while I was speaking to an admin and the admin who banned me assumed I left mid convo and banned me, if it matters I have a screencap of the server resetting with my timeout/near instant ban with little to no time to reconnect.

Edit: Unbanned from the server after the admin corrected his fault.

[ThesoldierLLJK]

I looked at your past appeals and you barely put any effort into them
I would suggest you get a vouch from another SS13 server.

[Friendlydad7]

I looked at your past appeals and you barely put any effort into them
I would suggest you get a vouch from another SS13 server.

I'm positive I have/had another account on here under the name Lugario or something, I know I appealed more than twice since 2016. There's a few others Byond keys (that I can remember) that used to be associated with me, which I may have named the other account I used on here; Centrox, KeithKelly, NiggaLuiKang, Pr0gn0s1s, (something Luigi related), Cytraladox, Zymechra (?), spiderkid2002 (?), ElCacooey, and a few others but i've forgotten a lot of my old throways/alts. I'll keep adding to this if I can remember anymore at any point.

Now, about the vouch. How would you like me to get the vouch? Screenshots? Ask another admin to message you directly? I believe there are one or two servers I can get a vouch from, I don't mess around in servers I take interest in and frequently report people who grief/minge in anyway and am pretty quick to bring things like that up to the admins.

[ThesoldierLLJK]

Now, about the vouch. How would you like me to get the vouch? Screenshots? Ask another admin to message you directly? I believe there are one or two servers I can get a vouch from, I don't mess around in servers I take interest in and frequently report people who grief/minge in anyway and am pretty quick to bring things like that up to the admins.

If you play on a popular community just ask a staff member there and take a screenshot of them vouching for you can be in a DM.

[Friendlydad7]

If you play on a popular community just ask a staff member there and take a screenshot of them vouching for you can be in a DM.

Does 1713 count as a popular server? I've been playing there for a bit now and am more than confident that an admin there can vouch for me. I also play on DMCA, STALKER, and Baystation almost daily.

Edit: Apparently the admins from 1713 "can't get involved in other server's business" so I can't get a recommendation from them

[Sir Lordington]

I've asked Baystation staff about you and they said your behaviour over there has not been good. They informed me that you've been banned twice over the last month for shit play.

Until you can get another server to vouch for your good behaviour, I'm not convinced.

[Friendlydad7]

I've asked Baystation staff about you and they said your behaviour over there has not been good. They informed me that you've been banned twice over the last month for shit play.

Until you can get another server to vouch for your good behaviour, I'm not convinced.

Yes, that is true that i've been banned there twice over the past month and a half-two months, not month. Both times were for misunderstandings of their rules regarding RP and what I can do given IC RP and circumstances while being a non-antag. When did you ask that? I was getting praises last night for being a Merc in a hostage situation RP and managed to get what my team demanded from the SEV Torch while keeping the hostages safe, I also got praised for being a robust Merc earlier in the day (yesterday) as well.

Other than the servers I mentioned, I don't play play on many others. The only ones I frequent just about everyday and would be able to speak on anything regarding on how I am on a day-to-day basis and has a general feel for me, would be 1713 Alpha, Baystation, and STALKER. I don't frequent anything else frequently, except DMCA but they're only up on weekends so I can't really include that since it's weekends only. I'd say 1713 could vouch for me, but I was told that they can't speak on issues of other servers, or something along the lines when I asked. So I don't think I can get a vouch from them, but if you were to ask about my behavior on there then that might bypass that because that's the only server besides Baystation that i'm on as much as possible, when the servers up. STALKER is ran by the same people who run Leben and 1713, so it's null as well to ask from STALKER station.

[Tharinoma]

You got permabanned in 2015 for griefing and still have trouble following rules on ss13 servers.
-1

[Friendlydad7]

You got permabanned in 2015 for griefing and still have trouble following rules on ss13 servers.
-1

This is a lot to read, but the subject of appealing on CM is one that really gets me.
I was banned in 2015. Three years ago, almost three and a half. On every ban appeal i've put in i've had at least one member of the CM staff try and hold that over my head. This is the one and only server I have tried to get unbanned from for years, literal years and the only reason I keep trying is because I have a friend who plays on it regularly who comes over almost weekly to run splitscreen Legacy/Smash and always, always, alllways tells me how fun it is while knowing that i'm foreverbanned, and without fail always tries to tell me to "just try appealing dude the owner said they would probably unban you since it's been so long I talked to him about it dude and he said yeah probably maybe just try to appeal" and then I see stuff like this. Truth be told I gave up appealing with my last appeal and have accepted that i'm never going to get unbanned from here because no matter what I do, what server I get unbanned from, what servers I've had vouches from in the past, it all ends up the same no matter what my effort was. Why would I keep trying to get unbanned for this long if I had ill intent? I've made so many appeals on this server, I feel like a clown just for posting an appeal and trying to make a case to defend myself because I know that there's a 95% chance i'm just gonna get hit with a big ole' 'denied!' again, the the umpteenth time. I can play on DMCA all I want, the knockoff Russian station, but I keep applying for an unban here. What does that say? Go ahead and ask the DMCA staff how I am, they'd have nothing negative to say at all. I only play Pilot and Specialist, i've had to lead rescue missions to save the wounded and evac the planet, i've had to take up the SL and lead the team deep into the caves to find our captured SL, i've had to arm the rods in the self-destruct chamber while my allies were slaughtered around me in a final bid to rid the ship from aliens; The point is: I do all of that without griefing or ruining anybody else's round, at all. Shocking right? Because I like the CM Codebase and I like what it brings to SS13. I know all of the maps, I know all the roles and their significance to both teams as a whole, I know what constitutes being a shitter and what kisses the fringes of griefing, and I know that a lot of effort and time goes into caring for a server and it's population. If you were to ask any server that I play on regularly (Ahelps on Bay are uncommon from me as I don't find any griefers just about ever, they're almost all questions about roles/lore/how to do something), especially DMCA, STALKER, and 1713, they would tell you how much I adminhelp to report griefers and people causing general shitlery with bad RP or purposely doing things to impact others negatively. It irks me when someone comes in to shit up a cool and unique server that's actually trying to stray from the normal SS13 format which has grown stale. I adminned on the Fallout 13 Station for several months last year (as Friendlydad7) and banned numerous people for metagaming, griefing of all forms, and multikeying. I've brought this fact up before but I don't think it gives much leverage in either direction.

I was banned from Baystation for misunderstanding of RP, they're a very heavy RP server and it's not out of the realm of possibilities that somebody could act out of RP unknowingly. There's 20 Rules regarding characters and the only one I have broken there (twice from June - July) was Rule #9 because I took my RP to lengths I wasn't aware would get me banned. Admin told me that although I had good RP, my actions weren't aloud within the boundries of RP and I was promptly banned.

[Friendlydad7]

I was also able to secure one vouch so far from one of the few servers I frequent. I play as Null.

[ThesoldierLLJK]

You know if you put that much effort into your appeal from the get go you wouldn’t of had that problem.

I’m ok with this player getting a probation
+1

[Tharinoma]

Well that convinced me
+1

[Friendlydad7]

You know if you put that much effort into your appeal from the get go you wouldn’t of had that problem.

I’m ok with this player getting a probation
+1

I'm sorry, I know it's a defeatist attitude to have but I didn't have much hope with anything being different this time. Try and understand from my POV, i've applied countless times and have made quite some decent changes in my behavior on servers, save for (genuine) slip ups here and there. I believe 1713 would vouch for me as well, but they cannot speak on other servers 'publicly'. There's a lot of drama going on there that I won't get too much into, but I believe that's why they can't 'publicly' vouch for me.

[freemysoul]

Alright, Spoken to Narciss_f and was able to confirm he did recommend you (Under the account Galaxor), My only problem I have is you are still being picked up for Multikeying on other servers, Specifically 10 months ago on Friendlydad7 which was linked to xdarksniperwolf122 for (Admitted to it) Ban Evading, Griefing, Metagaming and Powergaming. and then proceeded to get banned 6 months ago on Galaxor linked to Portoth (For Gold Slime Shuttle bombing (Which was two years ago)), Not sure if miscommunication or what however.

[Friendlydad7]

Alright, Spoken to Narciss_f and was able to confirm he did recommend you (Under the account Galaxor), My only problem I have is you are still being picked up for Multikeying on other servers, Specifically 10 months ago on Friendlydad7 which was linked to xdarksniperwolf122 for (Admitted to it) Ban Evading, Griefing, Metagaming and Powergaming. and then proceeded to get banned 6 months ago on Galaxor linked to Portoth (For Gold Slime Shuttle bombing (Which was two years ago)), Not sure if miscommunication or what however.

Damn, I haven't used xsniperwolf122 in a while. I forgot that was even a key of mine. I haven't used any key but Galaxor for a long, long time now. Portoth was a key of mine as well too. Gold slime shuttle bombing? Either miscommunication or I did it in the shuttle as the round was ending before the actual ROUND OVER notification came up. I haven't shuttle bombed in a looooooong while, and I haven't played on Yogs in a long time either. I don't really play vanilla SS13 servers anymore so I'm not 100% on that one.'


Edit: Since this appeal has been up, I have been banned from Bay once more. I feel like this ban was extremely unjust, you can read my appeal here and make your judgements based on that if you wish: https://forums.baystation12.net/threads ... ales.6936/

I would ask that this ban does not affect my appeal, but I know it will and I understand. I only that of this ban specifically because I feel like it was unjustified as I acted within RP/Server rules and had the foresight to grab screenshots before I DC'd, which I provided in the appeal that back up the claims I made there. In addition to this, I believe I have another station I can get a vouch from, which would be another HRP Server - SCP13 as I have now played there frequently enough for the admins to be familiar with me.

[TheLion1675]

SCP13 Host here.

I've just had a chat with my staff regarding Galaxor in this case. Galaxor is indeed correct. His day count with us is on 53, and has a clean record. I myself cannot recall any particular incident where anything needed to be noted down, and we note down almost everything.

As far as a vouch goes for his behavior, this should be it.

I should mention that SCP13 obviously takes very different rules than CM-SS13, and all I can do is give my two cents here, as requested.

My apologies if this isn't the norm, that people normally reply on these things when not affiliated, character witness, and so on, but I had an account here, and I thought this was a more direct approach.

[awan]

SCP13 Host here.

I've just had a chat with my staff regarding Galaxor in this case. Galaxor is indeed correct. His day count with us is on 53, and has a clean record. I myself cannot recall any particular incident where anything needed to be noted down, and we note down almost everything.

As far as a vouch goes for his behavior, this should be it.

I should mention that SCP13 obviously takes very different rules than CM-SS13, and all I can do is give my two cents here, as requested.

My apologies if this isn't the norm, that people normally reply on these things when not affiliated, character witness, and so on, but I had an account here, and I thought this was a more direct approach.

That is all ok and fine imo. I dont think the rest of the staff will have an issue with it.

Next, the baystation ban looks quite bad. I am glad that you were open about it and linked it.

A part of me wants to -1 this because you have issues among multiple servers. However I dont think thatis fair to other people where we dont know about that.
The ban was also from a single incident.

I am going to say neutral with a slightly leaning to a +1 because if you do mess up again that ban likely wont be appealable and I am willing to give second chances.

[Friendlydad7]

That is all ok and fine imo. I dont think the rest of the staff will have an issue with it.

Next, the baystation ban looks quite bad. I am glad that you were open about it and linked it.

A part of me wants to -1 this because you have issues among multiple servers. However I dont think thatis fair to other people where we dont know about that.
The ban was also from a single incident.

I am going to say neutral with a slightly leaning to a +1 because if you do mess up again that ban likely wont be appealable and I am willing to give second chances.

Yeah, the Bay ban does look bad but i'm sticking with that ban being unjust/unfair. If you read through the thread and read both posts from myself and the banning admin, it's clear that they skimmed through most of my posts and selectively ignored parts of what I said quite blatantly and held a 'I'm right, you're wrong.' mentality even when logs they posted supported my argument. I'm pretty upset about that one honestly but what I can do.

Edit: I will be camping this weeking (9/13-9/15) so I may not be able to respond until 9/16, incase anyone needs me to answer or clarify anything.

[Friendlydad7]

Hey. I'm just wondering if my request is still being discussed. I'm not trying to rush anything or seem like it, but I just noticed that I first posted this thread exactly a month ago. Damn, time flies quick.

[ThesoldierLLJK]

Hey. I'm just wondering if my request is still being discussed. I'm not trying to rush anything or seem like it, but I just noticed that I first posted this thread exactly a month ago. Damn, time flies quick.

Permabans are very low priority and are only handled when a manager decides to take a look at other staff input and resolve it

There is no time line.

[Friendlydad7]

Permabans are very low priority and are only handled when a manager decides to take a look at other staff input and resolve it

There is no time line.

Oh.