Hood's Job Ban Appeal

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Hood
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Hood's Job Ban Appeal

Post by Hood » 16 Sep 2018, 12:19

Your Byond ID:
Hooderino

Character Name:
Mark River

Type Of Ban (Job-ban (include the job), Timed Ban, Permaban):
Job Ban (Commander, Executive Officer, Staff Officer, Tank Crewman, Military Police, Corporate Liaison, Requisitions Officer, Chief Engineer, Chief Medical Officer)

Admin who banned you (if known):
I have no clue.

Total Ban Duration:
Permanent job ban, I wasn't banned from the server.

Remaining Duration:
No clue, this happened back in May.

What other servers do you play on?
Not many other servers, I mainly play CM.

Are you now or have you been banned on any servers? Which ones?
I'm not banned on any servers, and I've been banned once on another server.

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned):
Banned from Commander, Executive Officer, Staff Officer, Tank Crewman, Military Police, Corporate Liaison, Requisitions Officer, Chief Engineer, Chief Medical Officer - Suicide as an MP, multiple previous notes about suicide. | Sun, May 20th of 2018. TL;DR, I commited suicide too many times and they banned me from these jobs.


Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable):
None, this is my first appeal.

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc):
I was in the wrong, I admit. I'm not going to try to excuse my actions, but yet try to give my reasoning and apologize for them. The reasons I killed myself are because I had to disconnect, and this was before I knew what hypersleep was, since I was fairly new. I've been playing a lot recently and I've learned not to self antagonise. I will not commit suicide before disconnecting now, instead use the hypersleep pods. I want these job bans to be appealed for I can further my experience.

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Re: Hood's Job Ban Appeal

Post by x31stOverlord » 16 Sep 2018, 13:37

Notes:

Shot a marine then commited suicide, logged off before he could be PMed. | Wed, January 24th of 2018

Warned not to commit suicide. | Thu, January 25th of 2018

Banned from Pilot Officer - Suicide and logout as PO. | Sat, January 27th of 2018

Banned |Duration: 180 minutes|Reason: Was drunk as CMP, shot MPs when they entered the room with an autoshotty because he "told them not to." Suggest they read the rules and learn what MRP is. | Sat, May 19th of 2018

Banned from Chief MP - See above. | Sat, May 19th of 2018

Banned from Commander, Executive Officer, Staff Officer, Tank Crewman, Military Police, Corporate Liaison, Requisitions Officer, Chief Engineer, Chief Medical Officer - Suicide as an MP, multiple previous notes about suicide. | Sun, May 20th of 2018

Banned |Duration: 1440 minutes|Reason: Suicided again, this time as an MP. Disconnected before he could be PMed. Read our rules or this will continue to escalate. | Sun, May 20th of 2018

Also tried to choke a perma prisoner before suicide. | Sun, May 20th of 2018

Warned for IC in OOC, asked for help over LOOC chat. | Sat, September 15th of 2018
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Re: Hood's Job Ban Appeal

Post by x31stOverlord » 16 Sep 2018, 13:41

That is a lot of notes and bans for suicide and logging off.

Although it has been a considerable time since the last of these bans, I'm interested why you didn't learn to just go into Cryo from the time you were warned in January to the time you were job banned in May?
Yautja - Zathar-Veraz Wolfgang Schneider - CO, CL, SO, XO, Synthetic Unit Joshua Roscoe Barrett - Spec, SGCMP, MP Ancient Empress, Ancient Runner (69)
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Hood
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Re: Hood's Job Ban Appeal

Post by Hood » 16 Sep 2018, 21:19

x31stOverlord wrote:
16 Sep 2018, 13:41
That is a lot of notes and bans for suicide and logging off.

Although it has been a considerable time since the last of these bans, I'm interested why you didn't learn to just go into Cryo from the time you were warned in January to the time you were job banned in May?
I was never told to use cyro, instead I was banned.

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Re: Hood's Job Ban Appeal

Post by Ordukai » 16 Sep 2018, 23:39

It seems like the warning to not commit suicide was from Hood placing a gun in his mouth and unknowingly auto-suiciding a short time later, rather than anything cryo specific. However, it could be argued that most people would probably connect the dots.

Aside from never figuring out cryo sleep, there are a few other concerning issues in these notes, like shooting MPs and trying to choke out a prisoner. Could you address these as well?
TLDR: Go back and read it. I spent time writing that, ya know.

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Re: Hood's Job Ban Appeal

Post by Hood » 17 Sep 2018, 00:37

Ordukai wrote:
16 Sep 2018, 23:39
It seems like the warning to not commit suicide was from Hood placing a gun in his mouth and unknowingly auto-suiciding a short time later, rather than anything cryo specific. However, it could be argued that most people would probably connect the dots.

Aside from never figuring out cryo sleep, there are a few other concerning issues in these notes, like shooting MPs and trying to choke out a prisoner. Could you address these as well?
The MPs were trying to arrest me, so I shot at them. Apparently that was self antagonising (I learned my lesson). I was choking the prisoner out cause he had beat my ass previously. I let him live.

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Re: Hood's Job Ban Appeal

Post by Ordukai » 18 Sep 2018, 00:40

It's good that you let the prisoner live. It's bad that you don't seem to understand that you shouldn't have been choking him in the first place.

I think it should be fine to unban you from SO, TC, CL, RO, CE, CMO, and PO (even though PO is technically a separate ban and theoretically should be appealed separately). You haven't had troubles pertaining to these roles specifically and you sound like you know to cryo when you log out instead of committing suicide now.

What's missing from the recommended unbans are as follows:
  • XO- This is a role with a lot of responsibility, and I believe you should show that you've improved before getting it unbanned
  • MP- You have had some issues with this role which weren't a part of the reason it was jobbanned in the first place, but probably would have been grounds for a CMP/MP jobban just by itself
  • CMP- Same as above, as well as that it's a separate ban reason and should be appealed separately.
You haven't played at all during June, July, or August, so it's difficult to say whether you've improved enough to have MP unbanned. I'd like to see you play some more without getting notes before those jobbans are removed.
TLDR: Go back and read it. I spent time writing that, ya know.

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Re: Hood's Job Ban Appeal

Post by Sir Lordington » 18 Sep 2018, 11:47

Ordukai summed it up brilliantly. Play for a while without getting into trouble and we'll see about lifting the other bans.

Resolved - bans lifted for SO, TC, CL, RO, CE, CMO, and PO. You may appeal XO, MP, and CMP on the October the 18th.
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