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Mashallah
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1 Week Ban Appeal

Post by Mashallah » 16 Sep 2018, 15:39

Your Byond ID: Mashallah

Character Name: Varg 'Hell Seger' Liden

Type Of Ban (Job-ban (include the job), Timed Ban, Permaban): Timed Ban

Admin who banned you (if known): Solarmare

Total Ban Duration: 1 week

Remaining Duration: 6.9 days

What other servers do you play on? None.

Are you now or have you been banned on any servers? Which ones? None.

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned): Re-applying ban above. Didn't go through. (Which is "Placed a donut box in the open on a dropship, used that as an excuse to try and arrest marines on a dropship. Flashbanged them and caused a large brawl, this may result in a permaban on this or on the next violation of server rules.")

Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable):N/A

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc): My appeal to this ban is that before I did this I ahelped. I asked if it was okay to "Place a box labeled 'PROPERTY OF VARG LIDEN DO NOT STEAL' and arrest marines for stealing from this box". The moderator said that it was okay to do so I did it. I only did my actions because of the response from the staff saying that it is okay. So, I was entrapped by the staff into doing something against the server rules. I never would have done this if the mod said that it was not okay to do. So in summary, I was entrapped by the staff into breaking the server rules. Thing did kinda get messed up afterwards with the riot and deaths but that is besides the point and not mentioned in the ban note.
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Re: 1 Week Ban Appeal

Post by Mashallah » 16 Sep 2018, 16:05

Also, i'm really sorry for the disruption of the round and the griefing that happened as a result of all of this. I made some mistakes in the apprehension of the suspect but the response of the marines was completely uncalled for.
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Re: 1 Week Ban Appeal

Post by x31stOverlord » 16 Sep 2018, 16:30

Alright, once the logs update on our access, we'll try and get them pulled.

However, before I go diving into the logs, did you at any specific time questioning the staff member about marking the box that you intended to go into a dropship full of marines and put the box down? Or was this simply an attempt at trying to drop a match on a bonfire?

Because, on the face of things, it seems as though you knew full well what you were going to do.
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Re: 1 Week Ban Appeal

Post by Mashallah » 16 Sep 2018, 16:49

I asked if I could arrest marines for stealing a donut boxed marked "PROPERTY OF VARG LIDEN DO NOT STEAL", I think the mod who replied was Awan. I didn't go into the drop-ship with the intent of starting a fire. I tried it in the halls and the briefing room and no one took in then went into the DS with it thinking that no one was going to steal it with me being visible. I wasn't expecting all of the marines on the DS to get up and start lynching everyone. I was just trying to arrest the dude and get off the DS as quickly as possible. I should have excepted the marines to go ape shit and murder everyone, but I was pretty bald as MP as this was my first time playing as MP on this sever I think. I'm really sorry for all of the shit that happened afterwards. I don't think it justified for all of the marines to act like that over an arrest, but hindsight is 20/20 you know. The marines kidnapping me and killing the commander (I think) shouldn't have happened over that.
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Re: 1 Week Ban Appeal

Post by Mashallah » 16 Sep 2018, 16:59

Also in the ahelp I asked about entrapment and they said that it was not entrapment too
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Re: 1 Week Ban Appeal

Post by ThesoldierLLJK » 16 Sep 2018, 17:23

Just because you can label a box and bait people to steal donuts doesn’t mean you should do it. It’s not entrapment but that’s pretty “dickish” behavior in my opinion. There isn’t a rash of donut thefts in game that would nessitate a sting operation where you should be actively trying to arrest marines for stealing donuts. Plus there are consequences to all actions good and bad, and this lead to some pretty bad consequences.

You reap what you sow, and I think you should serve the full punishment.

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Re: 1 Week Ban Appeal

Post by Loco52 » 17 Sep 2018, 08:43

I was there, it was clear you twisted a moderator's opinion you didn't tell EXACTLY what you pretended to do to use as an excuse in the event you were discovered. You prepared yourself in case you were caught because you knew what you were doing was not ok then proceeded to blame the staff team when PMed. I'm 100% ok with your punishment.

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Re: 1 Week Ban Appeal

Post by Mashallah » 17 Sep 2018, 10:40

So you are saying that I was planning on doing something and only ahelped before saying what I was going to do before I did it incase I got caught doing it. You are clearly speculating with no evidence of what you are claiming.
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Re: 1 Week Ban Appeal

Post by x31stOverlord » 17 Sep 2018, 13:19

Player Notes:
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Logs:

Ahelp and Mod PMs:
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Ingame Activity:

Up to the priming of the Flashbang on the Dropship:
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After the Flashbang went off and Marines get involved and Second Flashbang:
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Continuing the incident, it appears the DS's have not left yet for the Operation yet due to command announcements at the time:
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A few minutes of no logs before anything pops up again:
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PMs to and from another Mod:
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Deadchat Boasts after the round from which you were banned:
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After Round End your PMs with Solarmare:
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Re: 1 Week Ban Appeal

Post by Sir Lordington » 17 Sep 2018, 13:47

Looking over the logs it is clear that you went out of your way to provoke marines into committing a crime to then give them maximum sentence over a really minor thing such as stealing a donut, massively disrupting the round.

Awan misunderstood your intentions as just leaving the donuts in the brig and that may have led to a misunderstanding. However, you were clearly looking to screw other people over and cause a big disruption at the start of the round. It may not be entrapment, but it's certainly being a dick, and we've got a rule against that.

Furthermore, on the span of just two and a half months you have accrued a grand total of twenty three notes over twenty one separate incidents. If you want your bans lifted, you need to improve your behaviour fast because you're on the fast track to a permaban at the moment.

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Re: 1 Week Ban Appeal

Post by Emeraldblood » 18 Sep 2018, 11:17

I've upgraded this to a perma due to the fact your note history is so shit over the span of 2.5 months. I'll unlock this if you want to try to give me a reason to undo this, it better be a damn good reason. I'm not talking about the doughnut case here, I'm talking about everything.
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