Banned for WGW
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Banned for WGW
Beyond ID: maxxto
Character name: Jonny Sniper
Admin who banned you: biolock
Initial duration: Permanent
Duration remaining: A lifetime
Reason for ban: http://puu.sh/iqiqW/7718722cf7.png
Your appeal, including evidence (an www.imgur.com album is recommended for multiple screenshots):
Well I got bored and put wgw over the radio and then accused Conner of doing it. Yeah and that got him murdered I didn't murder anyone like directly tho I did saw some guys body who was already dead the admin said whyd I kill him and I said hes been dead and he said theres no evidence I didnt kill him. ( apparently unless theres proof he was already dead i killed him ) aside from that yeah my actions got someone killed and probably broke someones immersion. I am sorry and I haven't been banned in like forever so I am sorry. Also no more wgw I thought it was k cause on new eden you would just get lynched. But I shouldn't have accused Conner of doing it cause he died.
Character name: Jonny Sniper
Admin who banned you: biolock
Initial duration: Permanent
Duration remaining: A lifetime
Reason for ban: http://puu.sh/iqiqW/7718722cf7.png
Your appeal, including evidence (an www.imgur.com album is recommended for multiple screenshots):
Well I got bored and put wgw over the radio and then accused Conner of doing it. Yeah and that got him murdered I didn't murder anyone like directly tho I did saw some guys body who was already dead the admin said whyd I kill him and I said hes been dead and he said theres no evidence I didnt kill him. ( apparently unless theres proof he was already dead i killed him ) aside from that yeah my actions got someone killed and probably broke someones immersion. I am sorry and I haven't been banned in like forever so I am sorry. Also no more wgw I thought it was k cause on new eden you would just get lynched. But I shouldn't have accused Conner of doing it cause he died.
- UnknownMurder
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Re: Banned for WGW
I'm not sure what WGW means... But... I don't know why you led a person to die...
Edit: Just realized WGW means Woodie's got Wood.
Edit: Just realized WGW means Woodie's got Wood.
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- Biolock
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Re: Banned for WGW
Hello! I messaged you while you were on the server but never got a response; I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since you seem like a sensible person and say you were AFK. Policy is that actions like what you did: ERP or running the line with it, are to be perma-banned. I don't personally know if a perma-ban was befitting of your actions because I was never given the opportunity to speak with you; my problem, however, is that you took advantage of a staff "downtime" to breach a fairly serious rule. It does seem less malicious when you base it off of the New Eden rules (Though we are no longer merged with them). With that said, ignorance is no excuse to break the rules. You seem like a genuine person and I'll put my bid in that a perma-ban is likely too severe, but ultimately this is now left up to upper management. Good luck!
I'm stressing way too hard about what to put here, so I'm just gonna leave it blank.... or....
- Evilkyle24
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Re: Banned for WGW
I'm not a moderator and its not my place to say this, but please, hear me out.
I would first like to say that reading Woody's Got Wood to incite a lynching is a time honored space station 13 tradition. In fact, it is one of my favorite past times on /vg/ station to tap into the command, security, and common frequencies and read the entire book, and then watch the station be torn apart to search for me so they can set me on fire in public.
That being said, I do not think he should have been banned. Woody's Got Wood does not count as ERP in my mind, because I personally hold that ERP requires sexual actions to occur.
Allow me to give an example:
If I read WGW over the intercom, and nothing else, I am considered valid, as specified under the /VG/ Rules. NOT HERE, this is just an example. I am responsible for whatever happens to me afterwards. I accept that I have read WGW and therefore can be lynched. I have not engaged in ERP, however, because I have not committed actions that are sexual in nature.
However, were I to run around in public with no jumpsuit typing
me: Fondles himself
That IS ERP because I have taken sexual action.
Now, if he reads WGW over the intercom and blames it on another person, I am not entirely sure how someone falls for this. It does, after all, display your name when you speak. Therefore, I lay the blame on the person who tracked down and murdered Connor, as he was a nonconsenting third party. If you read WGW aloud, I consider it as consent to assault and possibly murder. There is a reason I hold such considerations. That reason is escalation of force.
Escalation of force is, by my definition, the practice of considering individual actions as a sum, and responding with regard to the total sum of the severity of actions taken against you. In practice, this means that if the clown deliberately slips me ten times, I am justified in assaulting him. The individual slips do not amount to assault, but ten combined does.
In this case, WGW is a supreme irritation, the ultimate in verbal assault. As each line grates against the audiences very reason and good sense, each line is a wrong done. These quickly add up into the cumulative value of lethal force.
That is why I believe he should not be banned. Again, it is not in my power to make a decision as such, but I felt that in this case I needed to voice my opinion on the subject.
I would first like to say that reading Woody's Got Wood to incite a lynching is a time honored space station 13 tradition. In fact, it is one of my favorite past times on /vg/ station to tap into the command, security, and common frequencies and read the entire book, and then watch the station be torn apart to search for me so they can set me on fire in public.
That being said, I do not think he should have been banned. Woody's Got Wood does not count as ERP in my mind, because I personally hold that ERP requires sexual actions to occur.
Allow me to give an example:
If I read WGW over the intercom, and nothing else, I am considered valid, as specified under the /VG/ Rules. NOT HERE, this is just an example. I am responsible for whatever happens to me afterwards. I accept that I have read WGW and therefore can be lynched. I have not engaged in ERP, however, because I have not committed actions that are sexual in nature.
However, were I to run around in public with no jumpsuit typing
me: Fondles himself
That IS ERP because I have taken sexual action.
Now, if he reads WGW over the intercom and blames it on another person, I am not entirely sure how someone falls for this. It does, after all, display your name when you speak. Therefore, I lay the blame on the person who tracked down and murdered Connor, as he was a nonconsenting third party. If you read WGW aloud, I consider it as consent to assault and possibly murder. There is a reason I hold such considerations. That reason is escalation of force.
Escalation of force is, by my definition, the practice of considering individual actions as a sum, and responding with regard to the total sum of the severity of actions taken against you. In practice, this means that if the clown deliberately slips me ten times, I am justified in assaulting him. The individual slips do not amount to assault, but ten combined does.
In this case, WGW is a supreme irritation, the ultimate in verbal assault. As each line grates against the audiences very reason and good sense, each line is a wrong done. These quickly add up into the cumulative value of lethal force.
That is why I believe he should not be banned. Again, it is not in my power to make a decision as such, but I felt that in this case I needed to voice my opinion on the subject.
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Re: Banned for WGW
This can be considered a minor breach of ERP due to the books own....sexual nature.,....
But there is a competent marine rule....no one in their right mind would read an erotic(if we can even call it that) book over the comms on a MILITARY vessel....you also caused the death of another marine with that
But there is a competent marine rule....no one in their right mind would read an erotic(if we can even call it that) book over the comms on a MILITARY vessel....you also caused the death of another marine with that
I am Crornel Jrones, grorious admin of Coronial Mahreens. U ar arr nast Trorr and will be ding dong bannu. U critizize Xenos? Ding dong Bannu. U no rike grorious adminnu? Ding dong Bannu. U comrpain about Marine nerfs? Dingdong bannu. U comprain about grorrious adminnu? O yoo betta bereev dat's a bannu. It has come to my Grorrious attention dat nasty trorr has been imidatingu me on serveru, dis is a shamfrul dispray and unacceptaboo so dey ding dong bannu. End of Rine -----------------Rine ends here.'
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- Juninho77
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Re: Banned for WGW
I agree with you, Evilkyle: WGW is not ERP. It is actually worse. The whole thing is disgusting, and I think that whoever wrote it needs some serious help from a psychiatrist.
The whole point of the ERP rule is to protect possible minors from contact with sexual/pornographic material while playing on the server. WGW is sexual material, and even though it is not exactly roleplay, it exposes people to just the kind of content we are trying to avoid here.
Though other servers have been lax with these kinds of stories in the past - so much that it became a "tradition" - that is but a problem of inconsistency on their side.
The whole point of the ERP rule is to protect possible minors from contact with sexual/pornographic material while playing on the server. WGW is sexual material, and even though it is not exactly roleplay, it exposes people to just the kind of content we are trying to avoid here.
Though other servers have been lax with these kinds of stories in the past - so much that it became a "tradition" - that is but a problem of inconsistency on their side.
"Do not go gentle into that good night; rage, rage against the dying of the light."
If you would permaban a player, you owe it to him to look into his logs and hear his side of the story. And if you cannot bear to do that, then perhaps the player does not deserve to be banned.
- UnknownMurder
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Re: Banned for WGW
I'm against the appeal, just why would you read ERP content over the intercom? It looks like a he you didn't read the rules. We take ERP seriously.
- Officialjake
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Re: Banned for WGW
Sorry -1 for me, others have been banned in the past for doing this and as Juninho77 stated, the rule is meant to stop minors from being exposed to sexually explicit content while on the server.
It's also just common sense. "Should I broadcast sexually explicit content across the entire server?" The obvious answer is no.
It's also just common sense. "Should I broadcast sexually explicit content across the entire server?" The obvious answer is no.
- Evilkyle24
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Re: Banned for WGW
... You realize this is a game mode centered around dragging crying, screaming humans into a dark nest where you expose them to a creature that forcibly penetrates their face with an organ that deposits a baby inside them, while it chokes them unconscious and then the baby tears its way out of their chest.
And we're worried about exposing minors to sexual content.
And we're worried about exposing minors to sexual content.
- Allan1234
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Re: Banned for WGW
well when you say it like that it sounds badEvilkyle24 wrote:... You realize this is a game mode centered around dragging crying, screaming humans into a dark nest where you expose them to a creature that forcibly penetrates their face with an organ that deposits a baby inside them, while it chokes them unconscious and then the baby tears its way out of their chest.
And we're worried about exposing minors to sexual content.
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Re: Banned for WGW
The entire premise of alien is based on inter-species rape. Don't believe me? Look it up, they knew exactly what they were doing when they made the Facehugger and the chestbuster. Their design is no accident. The eggs were also supposed to have two flaps, and the aliens heads are supposed to resemble dicks. I'm dead serious here.
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Re: Banned for WGW
http://alienexplorations.blogspot.com/2 ... ncept.html
This is what the early concepts of the facehugger looked like.
(I originally had the last concept art on here, but it was a little too explicit and I don't know how to use spoilers. Click on the link and scroll to the bottom if you really want to see it)
Does this remind you of anything? And go look at the underside of a facehugger and tell me it doesn't look at all like... well... you know...
This is what the early concepts of the facehugger looked like.
(I originally had the last concept art on here, but it was a little too explicit and I don't know how to use spoilers. Click on the link and scroll to the bottom if you really want to see it)
Does this remind you of anything? And go look at the underside of a facehugger and tell me it doesn't look at all like... well... you know...
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Re: Banned for WGW
Woodies Got Wood, is a 100% permaban. This will not be removed.
- Evilkyle24
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Re: Banned for WGW
Wait do we have this as in a physical book on the server or did he just copy and paste it into chat?apophis775 wrote:Woodies Got Wood, is a 100% permaban. This will not be removed.
If he copy and pasted it into the chat, then he's a complete fuckwit.
On a side note, what kind of depraved mind INVENTED that abominable story?
- UnknownMurder
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Re: Banned for WGW
I'm sure he copied and paste.
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Re: Banned for WGW
big sorry unban plox
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Re: Banned for WGW
That's not helping.
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Re: Banned for WGW
Murdered fellow marines as well?
Like I said, this will not be removed. We have a VERY STRICT stance on Woody's Got Wood.
Like I said, this will not be removed. We have a VERY STRICT stance on Woody's Got Wood.
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Re: Banned for WGW
Yeah, Denied, This will be moved after a while if no one has anymore imput
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Re: Banned for WGW
can we find away to block WGW from being read? becuase back when I was just a player like forever ago this happened as well.