[Ban Appeal] Ravager Rampage?

[Murazor]

Beyond ID: Murazor

Character name: Ravager(random number) Sean Isaman

Admin who banned you: allan1234

Initial duration: 72hours

Duration remaining: 72hoursish?

Reason for ban:
ÿYou have been banned by allan1234.
Reason: Griefer, released all the gas cuaseing mutiple issues. if you feel this is unfair please appeal it here http://cm-ss13.com/viewforum.php?f=76.
ÿThis is a temporary ban, it will be removed in 4320 minutes.
ÿTo try to resolve this matter head to viewforum.php?f=76

Your appeal, including evidence (an http://www.imgur.com album is recommended for multiple screenshots): (GL taking screenshots when banned)

Basically, releasing gas as a ravager is not listed as being against the rules, nor is there anything accounting for atmospherics. If the admins are going to immediately going to hand out bans for something and call it griefing, it REALLY should be in the rules.

After we boarded the Sulaco, rather then charging directly left into the wall of death that was the marines, I decided to go right. I broke everything I saw over there, tables, glass, etc; cargo was first, and after a few through maintenance and being chased by a Loader, I ended up in atmospherics(Didn't actually know the server had a full atmospheric system) where I broke the windows as well. I think the admin seemed to think this caused issues on the lower level of Sulaco, which it did not as I believe its on a different airtank then the one on the upper level. This breaking of all the things worked as intended, as it took a significant amount of marines from the western defense, as well as their mechs. The definition of "griefing" on the server is:
"Griefing - Defined as the perceived intent of one player wanting to cause grief to other players or to the server without any roleplay or reason. The emphasis is on "intent". If an admin determines that the player's intent is to break roleplay, the player should expect swift retribution. Any damage to the station or players caused by griefing can be repaired at an Admin's discretion."

The upper level aside from having Co2, N2O, O, Plasma, nitrogen and air leaks seemed to function fine, aside from the death gas that marines chased my ravager through to kill me, but again, it doesn't actually do anything to them if they are wearing an air-tank(One lasts basically the entire round) which are plentiful on the ship for this very reason.

[apophis775]

MFW: Atmos Griefer trying to justify atmos grief.




NOPE.

This ban was placed, under my order. Don't release atmos gasses like an idiot, and you won't get banned.

I have literally ZERO TOLERANCE for atmos griefers, and an alien that releases gas is not only meta, but griefing as well.

Come back after the ban, and play WITHOUT griefing.

Additionally: "Atmos Grief" is a type of "Grief" and falls under that rule.

[apophis775]

In short: DENIED.

[Murazor]

Edited for your definition of grief, for which I had both reason, and roleplay. By your definition, the aliens can not be in any way resourceful, or creative, because that would of course be griefing because the marines(that only know how to abuse the shit out of broken rockets, and intentionally cause hull breaches outside the boarding shuttle and caused far FAR more damage in that it permastunned about 5 of our T3 aliens) themselves don't even know that they have the tools to defeat exactly what I did in their survival kits, and the few that were smart enough to do so did so. But sure.

Xenomorphs aren't braindead retarded in the lore and can detect pressure changes and after seeing it throw a marine that was chasing it across the room, decides, what happens when I use all 5? And if you dislike atmospherics so much, there is no reason to have any other tank then the air tank.

"On LV-426, the Xenomorphs were able to cut the power from a section of the complex to allow themselves access to the humans. The Queen was able to learn how to operate a giant elevator simply by observing it once. It was theorized that the reason the Acheron Queen establishing her 'nest' at the base's main power plant could equally be the result of her selecting the warmest part of the base to make her nest, or her deliberately selecting a location where any attackers would be unable to destroy her without destroying the entire facility."

[apophis775]

Aliens can be creative. Just not grief. I hear you offered a wide variety of reasons for what you did, none of them RP.

[SASoperative]

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