Ban Appeal

[Rahlzel]

When the Queen in LOOC chat said to stop, I stopped

A lie. You didn't stop. When I appeared to you, you were still bumping into that player, preventing them from going anywhere. When I put you to sleep to speak to you, you logged out. I used Toggle Sleep to wake you back up in case someone wanted to take over the body. You happened to log back in again and started moving towards the Queen. Again. Pushing her. Again.

Allow me to provide some more specific logs:

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[01:22:23]OOC: (LOCAL) Queen/Dreviore : Can you fucking not?
[01:22:50]OOC: (LOCAL) Queen/Dreviore : Stop it.
[01:22:52]OOC: (LOCAL) Queen/Dreviore : Seriously
[01:22:58]ADMIN: HELP: Dreviore/(Queen): Can you stop this fucking larva? - heard by 1 non-AFK admins.
[01:23:04]ADMIN: Rahlzel/(Valdus Rahl) jumped to Dreviore/(Queen)
[01:23:11]OOC: (LOCAL) Queen/Dreviore : ffs
[01:23:14]ADMIN: Rahlzel/(Valdus Rahl) used Toggle Sleeping on Mikeche/(Alien Larva (640)).
[01:23:18]OOC: (LOCAL) Alien Larva (640)/Mikeche : ok ill srop lol
[01:23:26]OOC: (LOCAL) Alien Larva (640)/Mikeche : oi fucking admin
[01:23:29]OOC: (LOCAL) Alien Larva (640)/Mikeche : stop faggot
[01:23:57]ACCESS: Logout: Mikeche/(Alien Larva (640))
[01:24:14]ACCESS: Login: Mikeche/(Alien Larva (640)) from 70.174.114.191-3903165859 || BYOND v508
[01:24:26]OOC: (LOCAL) Alien Larva (640)/Mikeche : what did you do to me
[01:24:26]ADMIN: Rahlzel/(Valdus Rahl) used Toggle Sleeping on Mikeche/(Alien Larva (640)).
[01:24:28]SAY: Alien Larva (640)/Mikeche : Gay
[01:24:39]ADMIN: Rahlzel/(Valdus Rahl) used Toggle Sleeping on Mikeche/(Alien Larva (640)).
[01:24:54]ACCESS: Logout: Mikeche/(Alien Larva (640))
[01:24:59]ACCESS: Login: Mikeche/(Alien Larva (640)) from 70.174.114.191-3903165859 || BYOND v508
[01:25:11]OOC: (LOCAL) Alien Larva (640)/Mikeche : how tf you sleep me
[01:25:18]ADMIN: PM: Rahlzel/(Valdus Rahl)->Mikeche/(Alien Larva (640)): Are you serious?
[01:25:35]ADMIN: PM: Mikeche/(Alien Larva (640))->Rahlzel/(Valdus Rahl): u mad ninja?
[01:25:41]ADMIN: PM: Rahlzel/(Valdus Rahl)->Mikeche/(Alien Larva (640)): Judging by your notes, you're a real winner here.
[01:25:51]ADMIN: PM: Mikeche/(Alien Larva (640))->Rahlzel/(Valdus Rahl): What do my notes say sir?
[01:25:59]ADMIN: PM: Rahlzel/(Valdus Rahl)->Mikeche/(Alien Larva (640)): And I mean that in the most sarcastic way possible.
[01:26:16]ADMIN: PM: Rahlzel/(Valdus Rahl)->Mikeche/(Alien Larva (640)): You obviously don't care about playing here, so I'll oblige you.
[01:26:22]ADMIN: PM: Mikeche/(Alien Larva (640))->Rahlzel/(Valdus Rahl): See if I care about some notes, whats youre issue?
[01:26:32]ADMIN: PM: Mikeche/(Alien Larva (640))->Rahlzel/(Valdus Rahl): what is your issue sir
[01:27:11]ADMIN: PM: Mikeche/(Alien Larva (640))->Rahlzel/(Valdus Rahl): what is your issue sir?
[01:27:33]ADMIN: PM: Mikeche/(Alien Larva (640))->Rahlzel/(Valdus Rahl): ok crybaby
[01:27:35]ADMIN: PM: Rahlzel/(Valdus Rahl)->Mikeche/(Alien Larva (640)): You were pushing around the Queen for no reason except to be a melvin. And it's not your first time being one, apparently. You're done here for a while.
[01:27:54]ADMIN: PM: Mikeche/(Alien Larva (640))->Rahlzel/(Valdus Rahl): what is a melvin?
[01:29:04]ADMIN: PM: Mikeche/(Alien Larva (640))->Rahlzel/(Valdus Rahl): Nah I'm no melvin what ever that is. I dont know what my notes say but ive never caused trouble with another player
[01:29:06]ADMIN: rahlzel has banned mikeche.

The notes:

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Jobbanned from Commander, killed themselves when they spawned in as a commander, left a unwilling bridge officer in command since the XO was scared to step up. by LordeKilly (Moderator) on Thu, August 6th of 2015 Remove

Banned from Commander - Left as Commander during the round start, left a BO incharge. Appeal on the forums to have this removed. by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Thu, August 6th of 2015 Remove

Warned for using peels to slip marines as an alien. by Mordrehel (Moderator) on Tue, August 11th of 2015 Remove

Pushing around the Queen to prevent her from moving. Toxic attitude when approached. Several similar negative notes. One less of you is a much happier server. Permaban. by Rahlzel (ViceHost) on Wed, August 12th of 2015 Remove

The best thing I happened to find is this one log of a player doing the EXACT same thing to you and you getting mad about it:

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[01:17:46]ADMIN: HELP: Mikeche/(Queen): can someone tell runner 689 to fuck off - heard by 3 non-AFK admins.
[01:18:15]ADMIN: PM: Mikeche/(Queen)->Felkvir/(Nathaniel Estecado): he keeps pushing me around stopping me from laying shit, its really annoying

You're a hypocrite.

Some more from a different day, apparently speaking to another fellow Alien:

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[02:44:41]SAY: Queen/Mikeche : Shut the fuck up
[02:44:49]SAY: Queen/Mikeche : I have to regenerate you fucking idiot

You've more than adequately demonstrated your toxicity here, and I strongly believe that your permanent removal will benefit this server. However, I'm willing to discuss the level of permanence with my colleagues should they believe otherwise.

[1138]

Here is how it is, I am a very defensive person. When I feel like I'm being challenged or threatened, I react appropriately.

Yes, I believe the majority of us can see that.

I know when I'm wrong, I never said I wasn't wrong. I'm simply disputing a permanent dismissal of my case.

The unfortunate reality here is that you are unable to understand what a ban appeal is. You appeal punishment administered after the fact, either when you believe the punishment administered was either wrong/unjust or you believe you learned a valuable lesson from your misconduct. Both of these cases remain to be seen.

I can be an asshole, much like anyone has the possibility of doing so. But to completely dismiss me as scum, infuriates me much like it would any other person.

You are being dismissed on the fact that you are a liar and a hypocrite in the given case you have appealed. It has proven to be very damaging to your current credibility, and it's really hard to sympathize with you when you're acting so defensive. You're not seeing the big picture here. What you did was wrong. You're not some victim here, no one is going to pity you if you keep on like that. It's rather demoralizing and it looks pretty pathetic. Cheer up, would ya?

Of course this entire issue would make me out to look like scum because 1. How I responded when you approached me, 2. The references you present to intentionally make me look like scum. But I am here to simply state that I am not that. You don't have consistent issues with me, it is only this one issue and one other issue.

You're not. Actually scum, but, okay, if you want to roleplay being that, that's your decision.

You're just another rulebreaker, dude, and that by itself doesn't make you hitler. But we still have to treat you as a violator of the rules, whether you like it or not. You broke the rules, and you're going to be treated in a manner so that fairness is dispensed where it is due.

The way you are reacting right now is enough to issue further punishment for such a small instance of a rule violation. Just because you did it once, doesn't mean further action can be taken on future conduct.

[apophis775]

DENIED.

Seriously, you stopped the bullshit AFTER he put you to sleep, then complained about it. He locked you down, to discuss the situation. Had you approached it in a calm manner, you would NOT have been permabanned.

But honestly, you have "troll" in your name. we are doing a bit of a "clean-up" on CM, removing trolling/toxic players as it does nothing except hurt the community.

Also, SERIOUSLY? You get a Co-Host PM and talk like that?

[apophis775]

If you really came here to roleplay, you've done a shit job.

I see the queen asking you in looc to stop for nearly a minute, and you stopping once rahlzel put you to sleep, then you flipping your shit about it.

And

[01:23:26]OOC: (LOCAL) Alien Larva (640)/Mikeche : oi fucking admin
[01:23:29]OOC: (LOCAL) Alien Larva (640)/Mikeche : stop faggot

Is not calm.

Sorry, but your going to have to find another server to troll. Maybe, Russian CM will let you?

[Mordrehel]

Oh, to add to it, on the note I placed after warning him about that he seemed to not care about what a member of staff had to say and said he'd 'take his chances' I decided to be nice and not ban him right then and there but it seems he fucked up again in the same day resulting in a perma.

[apophis775]

Wait, donor conversation?

I don't remember that?


My reference to flipping shit, was your immedate insults aimed at the admins.

Need i remind you, that General rule 8 is literally "respect the staff"

So, if your being a shit player and get put to sleep, it's pretty disrespectful to start calling them "faggots" before they've finished PMing you.

THAT is why I lean against unbanning you. Because, before the Pm even reached you, you were screaming unjust, despite being a shit upto that point.

[SASoperative]

Well than. If you are going to blatantly just insult my staff than you also have lost any attempts of getting unbanned from me either.

[apophis775]

There's a difference between a minor joke, or it being malicious (which, I deal with, when it's reported), and players who do this:

[01:23:14]ADMIN: Rahlzel/(Valdus Rahl) used Toggle Sleeping on Mikeche/(Alien Larva (640)).
[01:23:18]OOC: (LOCAL) Alien Larva (640)/Mikeche : ok ill srop lol
[01:23:26]OOC: (LOCAL) Alien Larva (640)/Mikeche : oi fucking admin
[01:23:29]OOC: (LOCAL) Alien Larva (640)/Mikeche : stop faggot
[01:24:28]SAY: Alien Larva (640)/Mikeche : Gay

[01:25:35]ADMIN: PM: Mikeche/(Alien Larva (640))->Rahlzel/(Valdus Rahl): u mad ninja?
[01:26:22]ADMIN: PM: Mikeche/(Alien Larva (640))->Rahlzel/(Valdus Rahl): See if I care about some notes, whats youre issue?
[01:27:33]ADMIN: PM: Mikeche/(Alien Larva (640))->Rahlzel/(Valdus Rahl): ok crybaby

If you hadn't been such an ass about the situation, you probably would have received a warning, instead you instantly flipped your shit when he put you to sleep (our method of not breaking "Ma imershuns" of uninvovled players to admin-lock players responsible for tomfoolery"), and then you were SUPER DISRESPECTFUL when he was only trying to get you to stop being a dick.

I believe, there's been enough additional input into this thread. Locked.

[Lucyz]

Appeal denied.