10/8/15 Command Roles Job Ban Appeal - UnknownMurder

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Re: 10/8/15 Command Roles Job Ban Appeal - UnknownMurder

Post by apophis775 » 16 Oct 2015, 14:42

By heading to medical bay, you mean "Leading an army of marines against 4 weyland guys who were heading your wounded marines".

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Re: 10/8/15 Command Roles Job Ban Appeal - UnknownMurder

Post by UnknownMurder » 16 Oct 2015, 15:24

johners12345 wrote: Eventually Um went to the medbay deciding enough was enough. Which is where the admins started to fire at the sulaco.
johners12345 wrote: Um simply tried to stop the situation. In fact he never said for lethals to be used.
johners12345 wrote: In fact I remember me and Mike hernandez trying to protect Um at the bridge from the destruction that was occurring.
johners12345 wrote: That turned out to be false and it turned out that the Regular player marines of the time couldn't handle it and violence erupted.
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I followed my rule: Image Chances to Surrender was offered to the PMCs in the Medical Bay. This is the same thing what you similar did to me. Were the PMC to refuse surrender (which they did not), and kept on fighting. The Marines would have killed them and they did even PMC was already lost. I can tell what the Marines were thinking, "Either we come to them or they come to us." I know my rules and kept my sanity while yelling at the Marines not to trust the XO. Pink/Feweh partially knows the story, I know the story, Johnner confessed and knows the story. I know how I should act under cases like this. Apophis, Yes, I do. Yes, I led them to restrain the CL whom we found dead at the hands of other group of Marines while PMC are suffering Mind-Toxin Breaker (I believe) drugged by the Medical Doctor. Did I tell them to do it? No, but did I congratulate them for supporting me? Yes.
johners12345 wrote: Now. Could we pin the fault on UM for all of this starting? If you really wanna be a jerk, Yeah. Is it ACTUALLY his fault for the marines actions? No. It's not.
Now, I'm going to tell you this. You have the wrong person to punish. It was the Marines. Mike Hernandez and Johnners were protecting me from chaos.

Here's the set of Mutiny Rules:
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SAS, coming from an Ex-Staff. Just because he was an Ex-Staff, doesn't make person a bad person, nor I. Now, I'm going to list some people who either resigned/fired. Johnner was not a bad person. Felkvir was not a bad person, Juninho was not a bad person, Minimike was not a bad person, Totalanarchy was not a bad person, 1138 was not a bad person, Lucy was not a bad person, Oliver was not a bad person, you get my point. They done their job and left.
johners12345 wrote: I mean hes actually a competent commander.
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Ogard.
It was the CE siding with you. Artyial Loudain the CE. She only wanted to rebel against the Command Staffs who were drugging themselves. She did ask me to join the mutiny. I only asked her for what assistance she needed, she only told me to "Go find some people to join mutiny". Adjective was there, I had to make sure everything was RP Reasonable for the Mutiny before I could join. Henceforth, I didn't in the end. I only provided medication to rebels and bridge officers drugging themselves. Bill Carson the XO was there. Khalil Dean the BO was there. Now, I'll explain the basic story to you so, you do not forget. (So, I don't forget either.)

Commander requests arcade room.
BO's creates Space Drugs, concealing information from Commander.
I spotted suspicious activities (stealing a lot of wheel chairs and moving them to bridge) and attempted to speak with Command Staff, XO tells me, "Commander's Orders."
CE learns of BO's actions and gets pissed off, and decides to tell me situation.
I spread information to the Medical Staffs.
XO insults me and threatens me for insubordination.
I, among Medical Doctors gets angry.
Medical Team calls Military Police for assistance.
Commander learns of this and aids the Military Police.
Drug Addicted Bridge Officers were arrested in end.
Aliens sieges Sulaco and Alien Major Victory.

-This was the last time I almost got into the Mutiny. 2-3 days ago. Hope this cleared up confusion for you, Ogard.
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Re: 10/8/15 Command Roles Job Ban Appeal - UnknownMurder

Post by Adjective » 16 Oct 2015, 15:30

I'm not entirely in favor of UM getting access to all the command roles again, but I feel for his awesomeness as a doctor and contribution to the RP that he should gain access to the CMO again. When UM plays as the CMO, he tends to keep the doctors actually doing their jobs. It's not very often that we get a CMO that actually plays there job correctly

*Doesn't cause a plasma fire by using Phoron as a Catayst while the Liason walks into the medbay smoking. Resulting in Apop forcing a restart cause it ruined his data*

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Re: 10/8/15 Command Roles Job Ban Appeal - UnknownMurder

Post by Jdobbin49 » 16 Oct 2015, 16:02

i agree with vrai on this although i was not there during the match that all this happened i still do have an opinion on the matter and it is in sync with vrais, i have played as a doctor under the command of UM when he is the CMO and when he is the CMO those are the best matches to be a doctor he really knows how to keep things under control and not let the entire thing fall apart
So as said by vrai i think he should be unbanned from the CMO

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Re: 10/8/15 Command Roles Job Ban Appeal - UnknownMurder

Post by Ogard » 16 Oct 2015, 22:29

Commander did not request an arcade room, the XO did, but yes I will rethink this over for my judgement though it doesn't matter really.
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Re: 10/8/15 Command Roles Job Ban Appeal - UnknownMurder

Post by SASoperative » 16 Oct 2015, 23:21

CMO is the most that I WILL be willing to give him. I have seen to many rounds where UM has been commander BO XO or CO and than just get complaints from that round regarding the command staff.
Unless Apop or Rah over rules this that is my final decision

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Re: 10/8/15 Command Roles Job Ban Appeal - UnknownMurder

Post by UnknownMurder » 16 Oct 2015, 23:38

SASoperative wrote:CMO is the most that I WILL be willing to give him. I have seen to many rounds where UM has been commander BO XO or CO and than just get complaints from that round regarding the command staff.
Unless Apop or Rah over rules this that is my final decision
Do list some of the actions I have done poorly OTHER THAN...

These are the only ones, I've known to have done.
Interesting/Inspirational Quotes.
MGS Reference/Ocelot Wannabe.

There was this round when I became the Commanding Staff which has been allowed by staffs because they see my POTENTIAL, the ability to command properly, to be a Command Staff as well as I was offered a Command Staff position. Not as a CMO, but from SL to Bridge Officer in a flick of a wrist. That was yesterday or two days ago.

I am fine with accepting the CMO Role, but I do prefer you to answer me these question. Why do I ask this? This is not WHY I was banned. NONE OF THESE ARE. We are not here to reflect past mistakes. This is here to reflect on the Ban, and I am telling you. This is a misunderstanding. I can tell you are trying to 'compromise'.

I'm just starting notice that you two are making agreements with each other and ignoring everything I just said.
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Re: 10/8/15 Command Roles Job Ban Appeal - UnknownMurder

Post by UnknownMurder » 20 Oct 2015, 06:30

...It's been four days....
Well... Has the message been clear enough?
(Bump) I know people hates bumps. Just an update.

Edit: It's been nearly a month since my last ban.
Does anyone have a question or aggression against me which I may explain it to you, or rather are SAS/Apophis still deciding the fate?

I have led marines several times as a Marine, Maintenance Technician during the siege, Unfortunately, that round while Commander was dead. I was killed off with "unauthorized access" use on the Command Console by Apophis who was still under confusion of that round. Never did he receive my Intel that Commander was dead, or bluntly ignored it.

I had Commander's ID, I had proper access.People looked up to me. Axel Strife was accused by BO of murdering me in aftermath which I have allowed myself to die to Central Command.

So, why am I telling you this? This, I am speaking, is because I have attempted to role play as a Model for marines to head to victory, unfortunately ended in a short run.
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Re: 10/8/15 Command Roles Job Ban Appeal - UnknownMurder

Post by UnknownMurder » 28 Oct 2015, 12:42

UnknownMurder wrote: Do list some of the actions I have done poorly OTHER THAN...

These are the only ones, I've known to have done.
Interesting/Inspirational Quotes.
MGS Reference/Ocelot Wannabe.

There was this round when I became the Commanding Staff which has been allowed by staffs because they see my POTENTIAL, the ability to command properly, to be a Command Staff as well as I was offered a Command Staff position. Not as a CMO, but from SL to Bridge Officer in a flick of a wrist. That was yesterday or two days ago.

I am fine with accepting the CMO Role, but I do prefer you to answer me these question. Why do I ask this? This is not WHY I was banned. NONE OF THESE ARE. We are not here to reflect past mistakes. This is here to reflect on the Ban, and I am telling you. This is a misunderstanding. I can tell you are trying to 'compromise'.

I'm just starting notice that you two are making agreements with each other and ignoring everything I just said.

Still, I know we all hate bumps... But still .. 20 Days without a decision on the appeal. It's becoming nearly a month. It'll be a month if we wait more. While, other appeals are being discussed and passed or denied.

However, I can assure this is a misunderstanding ban, and I've waited eight more days, patiently without, as you deal with reports, applications, bug fixes, and so on. However, as other appeals are denied and approved... I cannot tell if you are intending on ignoring the appeal, stalling appeal, or just don't have luxury of time (which I doubt).
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Re: 10/8/15 Command Roles Job Ban Appeal - UnknownMurder

Post by SASoperative » 28 Oct 2015, 13:25

My decision stands as is and I am waiting for Apop to give what he would give you instead. I am not going to honestly handle this given I will have biased input as I do not know the full situation of the round like he does

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Re: 10/8/15 Command Roles Job Ban Appeal - UnknownMurder

Post by SASoperative » 03 Nov 2015, 15:26

You have been unbanned from the CMO but no other head positions until i talk to Apop about this situation further

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Re: 10/8/15 Command Roles Job Ban Appeal - UnknownMurder

Post by SASoperative » 06 Nov 2015, 17:26

This has been moved and resolved.

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