Unban Appeal - Feweh

[BlackHeartKabal]

Byond ID: BlackHeartKabal17

Character name: Maddox Mathews

Admin who banned you: feweh

Initial duration: 1440 minutes

Duration remaining: ?

Reason for ban (EXACTLY what it says when you try to log in): You have been banned by feweh.
Reason: Doctor rule - No weapon and used it to kill someone..
This is a temporary ban, it will be removed in 1440 minutes.
To try to resolve this matter head to viewforum.php?f=76


Your appeal, including evidence (an http://www.imgur.com album is recommended for multiple screenshots):

Aliens were on the Sulaco, marines were dying, and of course I picked up a pistol, not a rifle, just a pistol. My doctor colleague had a rifle and of course you don't ban him, right?

I had the pistol, and used it to shoot a griefer who shot me, causing internal bleeding. I hid in a locker, and he kept opening it and punching me while I was analyzing and healing myself. His punches broke my arm, so I figured he was a griefer and pulled the pistol and shot him. He turns and kills me, I ahelp it, and of course this moderator bans me because "We had this conversation ready, i'm going to ban you now." Nevermind the fact that I was defending myself, right?

[Feweh]

You were warned 5 minutes before that to drop any weapons you had. You ignored me and this was your reasoning:
Player PM from-BlackHeartKabal17/(Maddox Mathews)(?): No, i'm going to tell you, that makes no sense RP wise
Player PM from-BlackHeartKabal17/(Maddox Mathews)(?): There are aliens in the sulaco and you want me to follow that arbitrary rule?
Moderator PM to-BlackHeartKabal17/(Maddox Mathews)(?): No, im telling you you have to follow it.

You blatantly ignored a Admin telling you to do something and to further that you then used that weapon to kill someone.
The guy who was griefing you was dealt with and the other doctor dropped his m4 on the ground.

Im not sure what you're appealing here, you blatantly ignored the doctor rule even though I told you 5 minutes earlier to drop the weapon.

No excuses.

[BlackHeartKabal]

You were warned 5 minutes before that to drop any weapons you had. You ignored me and this was your reasoning:
Player PM from-BlackHeartKabal17/(Maddox Mathews)(?): No, i'm going to tell you, that makes no sense RP wise

You blatantly ignored a Admin telling you to do something and to further that you then used that weapon to kill someone.
The guy who was griefing you was dealt with and the other doctor dropped his m4 on the ground.

Im not sure what you're appealing here, you blatantly ignored the doctor rule even though I told you 5 minutes earlier to drop the weapon.

No excuses.

You make it extremely hard to be polite.

I didn't use it to kill someone, I used it to defend myself because I was being killed on that spot, there were no MPs, and hell if you were going to do anything. They survived.
You didn't tell me to drop the weapon, you said I couldn't use it, I didn't think we were going full Zero Tolerance and banning me even though I was completely justified in using the gun.

[Feweh]

You make it extremely hard to be polite.

I didn't use it to kill someone, I used it to defend myself because I was being killed on that spot, there were no MPs, and hell if you were going to do anything. They survived.
You didn't tell me to drop the weapon, you said I couldn't use it, I didn't think we were going full Zero Tolerance and banning me even though I was completely justified in using the gun.

No, it was unjustified for you to have a weapon on you to begin with. ESPECIALLY, after I just spoke to you 5 minutes prior.
Ignorance of the rules is no excuse, and you opinion on the rule is not justification for ignoring it.

Yes, if youre being griefed you can Ahelp it and we will deal with it.

[BlackHeartKabal]

No, it was unjustified for you to have a weapon on you to begin with. ESPECIALLY, after I just spoke to you 5 minutes prior.
Ignorance of the rules is no excuse, and you opinion on the rule is not justification for ignoring it.

Yes, if youre being griefed you can Ahelp it and we will deal with it.

I know you're asspained about the weapon, but I figured that dealing with an alien or a flagarant griefer would be an exception. You seriously don't see anything wrong with your judgement on this?
I'm not ignorant of the rule, I know about the rule, but I figured a situation as extreme as this one would be an exception.

[Allan1234]

I'm not ignorant of the rule, I know about the rule, but I figured a situation as extreme as this one would be an exception.

Regardless of the situation a moderator cannot make exceptions to the rules without an admin to approve it. This is stated in the big red rule zero at the top of the rules.

You broke the rule even after feweh had warned you so this ban is 100% justified. If you are being griefed then we expect you to ahelp it.

The reasoning behind the rule is to stop people playing the doctor role from grabbing weapons and running to the front lines the moment the sulaco is boarded which use to be an issue. So because of that we now have zero tolerance for doctors having weapons for any reason at all.

[BlackHeartKabal]

If you are being griefed then we expect you to ahelp it.

I didn't think anything would be done. I didn't think that moderators had ban powers, and he was the only staff online. Assuming that he didn't have ban powers, at best he could tell the griefer what he was doing was against the rules, and is a griefer going to listen to an admin?

I should have tried ahelping, yeah, but not being able to defend against a griefer because of such a rigid rule? I was thinking that someone wound understand the situation, but it's a zero tolerance no exceptions rule, that I know now. I was in the wrong, yes, but it still doesn't make full sense.

[Allan1234]

Please check my edited post. It explains the rule.

[BlackHeartKabal]

Please check my edited post. It explains the rule.

I only left the medbay because I was hiding in a disposals unit. A spitter came in, and the unit auto flushed me into cargo. Since going back to the medbay was out of the question, me and the doctor ran into the armory to arm up. I had the weapon for when the aliens inevitably got to the escape pod. I wasn't on the front lines, I was stabilizing wounded, and later myself on the escape pods when that guy shot me. Feweh noticed me with the weapon when I commented on the rule in LOOC, while I was stabilizing a guy and convincing a murder-happy guy in a ripley NOT to kill the guy I was stabilizing. The reason I used the weapon was because I realized that this guy was going to punch me to death, since he kept re opening the locker when I was closing it, just to punch me, even though I had internal bleeding and he had broken my arm.

[Allan1234]

I only left the medbay because I was hiding in a disposals unit. A spitter came in, and the unit auto flushed me into cargo. Since going back to the medbay was out of the question, me and the doctor ran into the armory to arm up. I had the weapon for when the aliens inevitably got to the escape pod. I wasn't on the front lines, I was stabilizing wounded, and later myself on the escape pods when that guy shot me. Feweh noticed me with the weapon when I commented on the rule in LOOC, while I was stabilizing a guy and convincing a murder-happy guy in a ripley NOT to kill the guy I was stabilizing. The reason I used the weapon was because I realized that this guy was going to punch me to death, since he kept re opening the locker when I was closing it, just to punch me, even though I had internal bleeding and he had broken my arm.

Regardless of your reasoning for it now you had ignored a moderator warning you to drop it so you where banned it's as simple as that.

[BlackHeartKabal]

Regardless of your reasoning for it now you had ignored a moderator warning you to drop it so you where banned it's as simple as that.

It's like talking to a wall.

[TR-BlackDragon]

Hello. I'm going to post this here since you say you have read the rules but thought there would be an exception..

You are a DOCTOR not a marine. You are NOT authorized weapons, and using lethal force against marines(no matter the situation) results in a job-ban.

[BlackHeartKabal]

Hello. I'm going to post this here since you say you have read the rules but thought there would be an exception..

You are a DOCTOR not a marine. You are NOT authorized weapons, and using lethal force against marines(no matter the situation) results in a job-ban.

So just sit there and eat shit when dealing with a griefer?

[Feweh]

So just sit there and eat shit when dealing with a griefer?

Ahelp it and will deal with the griefer.

Will also heal you right after!

[BlackHeartKabal]

Ahelp it and will deal with the griefer.

Will also heal you right after!

But only admins can heal?

[Feweh]

But only admins can heal?

Mods as well

[BlackHeartKabal]

Mods as well

So why was a staff member claiming they couldn't revive people because "they didn't have the ability?" Odd.

[Feweh]

So why was a staff member claiming they couldn't revive people because "they didn't have the ability?" Odd.

Could of been a mentor

[TR-BlackDragon]

Mentors and Trial-Mods can not heal. Full Mod and higher is able to

[apophis775]

Locked.

[SASoperative]

Moved